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there’s no time to lose it is always ever now leave it as it is

I’m used to seeing Bönpos wearing blue... I was lazy! 🤣

Thanks Miroku! My apologies, I thought he was Bönpo

I don't have time to read through the thread right now but here is some info and a few resources - The top video in the OP is Yungdrung Bön Tsa Lung Trul Khor practice from one of the three dzogchen lineages in Bön, the Zhangzhung Nyuengyüd lineage. This lineage is unique and precious to the Bön as it is unbroken, never hidden and recovered as terma. That's very rare. I studied Daoist meditation, qigong, neigong, and internal martial arts intensively for about 12 years. Then I found Bön and never looked back. There are marked similarities between Dao meditation, qigong, neigong, and Tibetan practices. The primary similarities are to the tantric lineages which is where practices like Tsa Lung, Trul Khor, Tummo, and other breathing and body movement practices come from. Tantra, very much like neigong and qigong, works a lot with the body-energy (breath) -mind connection. The primary purpose of these practices, like in yoga, is to clear obstacles to energetic flow and balance to allow deeper connection to the source of being. There are Tibetan lamas teaching these things in the West as well as some Westerners. One such teacher is a good friend of mine, Alejandro Chaoul. He was trained partly here in the states by my teacher, Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche. He got the majority of his Trul Khor training in Bön monasteries in Nepal and India. He was leading annual Trul Khor workshops for the past few years at the Serenity Ridge retreat center in Virginia. Of course, that is currently on hold but hopefully there will be one in the Fall. He is currently offering an online introductory Trul Khor training program. It is not the same set as demonstrated in the video above, it is the set associated with the A Khrid dzogchen lineage. It's a bit less physically challenging and the best place to start if interested in the training. The online course is offered through Wisdom Publications and would be a great way to get a taste - https://wisdomexperience.org/courses/tibetan-yoga/ There is a comprehensive book on the subject by Tempa Dukte Lama with Olmo Ling Institute in Pittsburgh. Here is a link to info on the book - https://www.olmoling.org/contents/thrul_khor_ancient_tibetan_bon_yoga/. Alejandro also wrote a book on the subject, albeit a bit less comprehensive - https://www.amazon.com/Tibetan-Yoga-Health-Well-Being-Practice/dp/1401954340. There are ways to get some free instruction in the more fundamental practices of 9 Breathings of Purification and Tsa Lung from Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche of Ligmincha International and others, such as Geshe Chaphur at Gyalshen Institute in California or Geshe Yongdong in British Columbia at Sherab Chamma Ling. All do in person retreats, Zoom teachings, some Facebook teachings, prerecorded courses. Lot's of options! Here is one way to do get started - https://ligminchalearning.com/starting-a-meditation-practice/. This is a free course on basic Bön practices that includes instruction in the 9 Breathings and Tsa Lung. All of these are offered will full permission and support of the lamas and the lineage. Teachings on Tummo are scheduled for the summer retreat this year at Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche's retreat center at Serenity Ridge. It's currently being considered that this retreat may be offered online rather than in person due to the pandemic situation. More info will be coming soon but is not yet posted. Keep an eye on the ligmincha.org webpage if you are interested. You will need to put in some significant time working with the 9 Breathings and Tsa Lung before studying Tummo but it should be possible if you are committed. I'll come back later and read through the thread and see if there's anything else worth mentioning. Be well everyone

Mine just dropped into the green! 🧘🏻‍♂️

I don't presume to speak for anyone but myself, here or elsewhere. We each have a perspective and each perspective is equally valid.

It most certainly would. I can be a bit literal, even naive at times. 👶🏻

Now I’m confused, I thought I now have your mandate to speak for everyone... 🥳

Perhaps

Maybe it’ll even eliminate all sarcasm!

What is the point of so much projection and animosity?

We refers to the DaoBums community as a whole.

Yes, quite a lot lately. Without moderation, some people here tend to indulge in throwing tantrums, bullying, trolling, insults, even threats on occasion. The loudest, most obnoxious voices trample and often silence those that aren't interested in wasting so much energy on fighting. Rational discussions give way to emotional venting and ridicule. It can be ugly. Bringing some moderation back will help.

PS - I feel like my posts have been clear, what don't you understand?

To phrase it in a way you may find familiar, WTF gave you that idea?

Yes, my perspective of the collective. It’s really all I have to share.

Our collective, no one in particular, though you are welcome to fill in the blanks as you see fit.

My love and support go out to you @sean Sorry we can't simply take care of ourselves here, seems like we need a stick from time to time. Thanks to @Trunk for volunteering to take out the recycling. Hopefully we'll be able to minimize our carbonated footprint and leave both of you be most of the time.

I put less stock in the details than in the lessons of such story-telling. Not much different than the bible or any other form of ancestral teaching. Stories abound about our masters, our ideologies, etc... Very hard to really pin down the who, what, when, and where; many seem archetypal. The why is what counts for me. There are usually good lessons to be had regardless of the details.

It sounds like a Ueshiba story but Dobson's teacher was Ueshiba and he was already training at that point. I would think he would have mentioned him by name if it was him. The other I might guess is Gozo Shioda. Another possibility is Funakoshi Sensei, not aikido, but the inspiration of several such stories... although not sure if he was in Tokyo or Okinawa at the time.

And Alex Grey

And Monteverdi

Rumi The guest house This being human is a guest house. Every morning a new arrival. A joy, a depression, a meanness, Some momentary awareness comes As an unexpected visitor. Welcome and entertain them all! Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows, Who violently sweep your house Empty of its furniture, Still, treat each guest honorably. He may be clearing you out For some new delight. The dark thought, the shame, the malice, Meet them at the door laughing, And invite them in. Be grateful for whoever comes, Because each has been sent, As a guide from beyond.

Maybe I’ll even be around to meet them...