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To me it makes little difference. As long as View New Posts finds everything I don't care where they are. For people new to the forum, it may be better to split things off, but then they wouldn't see the great mix of topics we get so clearly. Ditto. Its very nice indeed!

I'm in IT. Started after my degree (in Maths and Computing) in a new start up company producing the first cheap Desktop Publishing program. Left there about 10 years ago and been working in academia ever since, doing a bit of teaching and lots of technical stuff (databases, webpages, utility pograms etc)

Root : under-active (-19%) Sacral: under-active (-38%) Navel: open (25%) Heart: open (19%) Throat: over-active (63%) Third Eye: under-active (0%) Crown: open (19%) I seem to be in the "Ought to shut up more" group!

Interesting posts neimad. I occasionally adopt similar approaches to my use of language (just managed to avoid saying that I occasionally try to adopt.... ) but normally fall short of being able to stick to it for any length of time. Let us know how you get on with this, and if you notice any differences in your day to day life as a result. I've seen Emoto's book a few times in shops recently (having read about him on line after watching What The Bleep, and reading The Field), Regardless of the criticisms levelled at his work, would you recomment this book?

Just to add my thoughts to this love-fest This site (the posts, the people, the links, the knowledge, ...) has been the greatest resource I have found over the last few years. Not only is it enjoyable hanging out here, but the number of tips, book recommendations etc that I have gathered (and the fortune I have spent at amazon!) is fantastic! So, thanks to all, and especially Sean

Hi Guys. Sorry to jump in on a discussion you (seem to) have been having for some time, but I have recently been getting into such things as The Holographic Universe and similar titles/themese. These seem to be describing very much a scientific approach/theory that matches the eastern philosophical thought quite closely. Or if not matches, then at least does not argue against as much as traditional science. It doesnt tie in exactly with your point Sean, but just thought I'd throw it out there anyway!

Wow, seriously difficult question! I've been trying to think what I would do and have been unable to come up with anything more than a somewhat wishy-washy "let the group try to decide" answer. Partly because I dont think I would be able to enforce any decision that I made anyway (I dont have too much faith in my own authority, and even less in my physical stature/ability!) Partly because I very much agree that you really cannot judge someone to the extent that a decision like this requires without knowing them a whole lot more that you possibly could under these circumstances Partly because it is only through an open discussion with everyone that you might discover ideas or other talents that might enable you to save more that the alloted 7 and of course partly because it is much easier to get others to make the decision that have to forever burden myself wth the guilt! Not only can there be no right or real answer to this one, I dont think that there can be a real approach to follow either. The thought processes and eventual decision will be so different for different sets of people in the boat that nothing other than a "play it by ear at the time" route would seem to work. You just have to know so much more about each person than you possibly could given the information we have. Of course, if I really was in such a life and death situation (and I never have been) then it is entirely possible that all logical thinking process would jump overboard, and I would just attempt to throw everyone else off in a mad panic! A very poor answer on my part, but since there isnt a good one, I dont feel too bad about it

Here's number 3! Happy Birthday!

Its the big 4-0 for me next year! Yikes!! 30 is nothing (though I seem to recall at the time it was )

Probably too late, but have a good day Sean!

Got any links to the book or dvd for us to check out?

Congratulations hagar! Hope you've been getting lots of sleep in recently, as I imagine you'll be getting less from now on!

Hadn't come across anything that exposes her as a fraud as such. Have you got a web reference to that? Well, I gues its based on my understanding (possibly wrong) that they were saying that because of the superposition stuff (the wave/particle principle, and how the outcome is affected by the observer) that the observer can dictate their reality due to some quantum mechanics kind of multiplied up to the larger scale. "If the observer can affect things on such a small scale, then imagine what the impact of the observer could be on the bigger material scale" kind of thing. Whereas (as I understand it) the whole point of QM is that those effects only appear at the really, really small end of the spectrum, and dont/cant apply to the world that we all see. Now, the film does also say that because of chemical dependencies we all crave the kind of situations that we have become addicted to, and so, Eckhart Tolle Pain Body style, we seek, interpret, create situations that meet our needs. And that the observers point of view is entirely localised and unique for that observer. And so what we all see is unique to us and in that sense we all create our reality. I'm not saying that we cant also affect our reality (and others) in a more "real" way, but that the film did seem to suggest that we can do it because we can determine/affect/choose which of the possible superpositions a particle "actually" has, which we cant (well, not according to QM anyway) But the film was good and was useful in that, as you said, it raises awareness of other ways of thinking, and of how we can affect our own lives directly.

Actually got round to watching this at the weekend (ordered my copy back in October 05 and only just watched it!) I enjoyed the film, though it was a bit disjointed in parts (and the lipsync on my copy was terrible). Lots of interesting topics and concepts (there is a great animation to download from the main whatthebleep.com website showing the double slit experiment) presented in an easy to follow way. The discussions of addiction to chemicals (and the emotive causes), and how the brain forms associations etc were very interesting. The overall message seemed to be that we are each responsible for our own reality to at least some extent, which is probably true, though perhaps not to the extent that the film proposes (or due to the quantum mechanic reasons quoted). I did find parts of it strange though (like the fact that none of the experts are introduced until the end, including the woman who is apparantly channeling some 35,000 year old man from Atlantis. On some research after watching it, I hve discovered that the directors of the film (and some others involved in it) are followers of this channelled person, and that the film is viewed by many as an infomercial for this organisation. One of the contributors has also expressed concerns over the way he was edited. There are plenty of sites expressing scorn at the water experiments of Emoto (not being reproduced, or under double-blind conditions etc). None of which needs to detract from the film of course, or the things that you can (and I did) take away from it, though some of the research did leave a bit of a bad taste. There is a new extended edition version (with the animation above and others included, and extra interviews) coming out soon. I will have to decide if it will be worth getting that one or not too.