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Wow, the guy talks a lot in drawers, concepts and jargon to express things that are not new. It seems all his talk about second tier means little more than what the word "wisdom" and its spawns describe. Like drawing a picture for those who don't get the words or inherent wisdom. The problem I see with the color-coding is that it is an incentive to think in drawers instead of just seeing what is. In the linked text, he's already doing that to a great degree. It's one of so many attempts to make the world simpler for someone who is uncomfortable with a more complex world-view. But ironically, in its outcome this reverses simplicity and complexity. Also, his idea of an enlightened world governance - well, that's nice, but the path towards that is a different thing. That's the perpetual struggle in the world. I think it would be healthy to have less interdependance between countries, because interdependance is used as a control and oppression tool. The most important work is to be done on a personal level, by helping people to get the courage and strength to face fears and thus overcome them. And a 'World Federation' (if one aspires to that idea) is not going to bring about this, but we need this to bring about a World Federation. That said, please elaborate on what you mean in your last posting. What message are you trying to convey and on what assumptions is your statement based? The reality of foreign politics does not fit into the color coding system if one doesn't know the reality. This is evidenced in Wilber's statement: "There is no mistaking Mr. Bush's values: they are essentially blue-to-orange." No mistaking, eh? ... Bush (as a person) fits a lot better into red. (Since he wasn't a dictator, the foreign policy result is more complex.) Apparently Wilber actually takes what people say and assumes those words reflect their values and motivations. That's naive, and thus would be an example of a widespread folly of making logical deductions based on erroneous information. "The best that can be said is that it takes blue to curtail red, and Bush's actions are serving the larger Spiral by rooting out pockets of red terrorism." - Those actions are the most blue that an on average higher evolved mindset in the population would tolerate, and those actions still represent so-called 'red terrorism', thus it's a bit weird to claim they are rooting out just that. Then, Wilber drops the bombshell that underlines my point: "As for world leaders—are any taking something resembling an integral view? The only world leader who comes close, in my opinion, is Tony Blair." Another myth that I as an informed German would like to dissolve is that the German government was against the Iraq war. To begin with, it is discredited by the evidence of their participation in it. But there also was a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. By looking down on first-tier people based on false assumptions, Wilber acts first-tier style himself. He, too, is entertaining an exclusive belief system. "There is plenty of truth on each side of the debate, just not the whole truth, which both sides vociferously claim to possess." There is almost no truth on one side of the debate. He simply believes differently, because then he can believe himself to be 'balanced', 'above dispute'. In summary, one can not claim to be of a certain standard while violating that standard and claiming it's for its sustenance. But people do it all the time because they are fooling themselves. This is what's called "corruption".

I recorded something from a TV show. Who knows which song this is? http://f.owledge.de/music.mp3

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Tibetan Ice, what are your experiences with having any kind of higher perception experience connected to fear? Ever felt that? Like losing your mind? Or only in the beginning? Or does every kind of altered reality require some getting used to? Or do you draw trust and confidence from somewhere? Does feeling fear stop your experience?

Are there MLP shaped cookie cutters? My Little Brownie ... my little brownie ... *lalala*

Not for long, especially with that attitude. (In some cases, it's not even safe not to leave the house.) The advantage of drones is that your dictatorship doesn't have to rely on hiring sociopaths for enforcement. There might be a lack of those. Drones are perfectly loyal, no matter what you tell them to do. No more risk of individual soldiers refusing illegal orders. Also, playing 'robot assault' on a computer monitor can be done with only minimally sociopathic personnel. Also, no more fear factor of subjecting yourself to mortal danger. It's a bit like non-lethal weapons like tasers or LTL ammo: You don't have to worry about killing civilians - just fire at will. And while they in fact CAN be lethal, we all know that for many people truth is in the name, not in reality. Seriously, looking at all that's happening right now and comparing it to historical events, there's absolutely no reason not to be worried or at least vigilant and defiant. It's textbook prelude to tyranny. But hey - you have nothing to worry if you don't have anything to hide, right? ... Like, say, a jew in your basement. Your own fault if you do. Never again! ... LOL

I've watched a few episodes now. The storywriting and the 'universe lore design' is a bit lazy and simplistic, but the ponies' behavior is very funny. "Swarm of the Century" is apparently a hommage to the Star Trek tribble episode(s) and also inspired by the Pied Piper of Hamelin. (That episode's ending is another example of bad writing.)

Kloppfick?

Idea for a porn movie title: "My Little Horny - Fiendish is Mah Chick"

That one's a hopeless cause. Sorry, I have been spoiled with Finnish synthesizer and Japanese console game music.

While listening to that, all the time, I thought how to make it more awesome. Has many triggers that make the music continue in a different way in my brain. ... It sounds quite emotionless in the current version, but has a lot of potential. Now all I need is a direct mind-to-music interface. By the way... I know there is the making of remixed and cover versions, but is there really no musical discipline of abridging? I mean, it could be a big culture of trying to musically build together, to add awesomeness to music. You know, the kind of essence that creates an overwhelming feeling. All that comes to mind are isolated cases, e.g. there is a version of Knocking On Heavens Door sung by a woman that is not following the original, but based on it.

I just realized it might be cross-talk, which is bioelectrical, but might also be related to 'energy in the head'. Electromagnetic fields from the brain might bleed over into the optic nerve. This cross-talk can be a lot more severe. A part of the population has a condition where the trigeminus nerve that's responsible for the nose might run very close to the optic nerves, causing one to sneeze when looking towards the sun, because the strong visual signal bleeds over into the trigeminus and makes the brain think that there's a foreign object in the nose.

Floaters are moving erraticly like a swarm of tiny flying bugs. They can be seen when unfocusing in bright daylight. I once managed to verify that they are not 'imagined', but indeed substantial. I closed one eye and there were less floaters. Difficult to make sure, but after some testing I was. More floaters when both eyes are open.

Good question.

You didn't respond to the specifics of my statements about bells. The video you posted shows a bell with a lot of open space around it. Do you claim that if there were dense city around it instead, the sound would travel just as far? Or do you claim that making the bell larger would compensate for that? But it would still be two very different things in style. Also, an average church bell doesn't require ten men to swing, but one. I'm saying that because a plethora of facts support it. The spreading freedom and democracy is only a fairy tale for lower tier politicians and the masses. Those who make the decisions in US foreign politics do it for the power. US foreign policy supports or even puts into power dictators who kill and oppress their people when it is in US economic interests. The USA are supporting terrorism. The USA is severely violating the NPT. The country sets a new standard for hipocrisy. They blame others for what they do themselves. Oldest propaganda trick in the book. There are many sources and discussions in some other political threads here on TTB.

You sound agitated now. I don't know how to respond to that. What I can comment on though: It is seen as villifying in countries that do have those qualities, or at least not worse than the USA. Also, spreading democracy and improving human rights in other countries is just a fake goal, a masquerade, an official reason. It's all about hegemony.

With the geographic flow I mean that the USA are far west so to speak and glorify supercapitalism and individuality. China is like the opposite, and Europe is a mix of both. It's cultural mixing like in other areas (language, beliefs etc.), but cross-continent. I think the geographic separation is a strong factor. It makes it so much easier to villify/oppose a different mindset. About the bell: I think the western design is not that clumsy. Churches are usually located in towns, so the sound needs to travel across dense housing and would be absorbed in the streets, and on ground level, there is little space and churchgoers would be hit by unpleasant sound power. Eastern bells seem to have a lot of open space around them. And once you mount the bell up high in a tower, moving the bell itself requires less space around it. It might not be such a waste of energy, since the bell only needs an initial energy input for the swinging motion and then relatively little to make it continue its motion. Western bells ring in a fast, continuous fashion, so this is an optimized way of doing it. Trying to sound an eastern style bell in the speed of a church bell would probably be a very difficult task. You could say eastern bells are energy saver models, more like a doorbell, while church bells are more like market criers.

Seriously?! I thought it was a bummer.

Yeah, compacting a tent is a high skill. I can't do it either. Ask your boyfriend to teach you the art.

Something about the whole story bugs me. The way it's presented. Pure bread and games.Circus spectacle. Cheesy moral entertainment. Can't really explain it that well. But the guy... on one side he's all peace&love and then he self-aggrandizes about the (deadly?) violence he inflicted, all while apparently playing an alternate personality act. There are events kinda similar in style that were completely made up by marketing firms. The line where the TV host said KMPH has exclusive rights to the story was pathetic, but I guess it's better than hiding it.

Can you point me to some sources with more details?

OK, I'm not talking in absolutes now, just pointing out differing tendencies... Take medicine: Western medicine is tendentially about trying things, collecting results, collecting much detail about a problem and then dealing with those details, focusing on them, thus falling into a habit of treating symptoms. Eastern medicine is more about understanding the roots for problems, where they originate, seeing the big picture, and then choosing a solution that is based on that whole so that one remedy won't cause other problems. Western society emphasizes individuality a lot. Eastern society puts more importance on the common good. You can even see a geographically defined flow from one extreme to the other. Western science thinks that if details are understood more, then many other details can be excluded in a problem solving process. Eastern science tries to include a broad spectrum, again, because that makes focusing on details unnecessary and prevents getting lost in narrow-mindedness. Balance is important, yes, but I think right now the world could use a lot more synthetic thinking, because there's a severe imbalance. The world's societies are very much dominated by left-brain thinking (analytic), and there seems to be a correlation with fear-based behavior and order. Right-brain thinking is about creativity, formlessness, chaos. It requires a higher degree of selflessness to work, and that's a problem with all the fearmongering going on. This is also what the saying hints at: "Fear kills creativity.". Example from the engineering sector: laser spark plugs are analytic extremism (tries to squeeze a tiny bit more fuel efficiency and improved emissions out of a very complicated technology by putting in a lot more effort) water fueled zero-point-energy engines are based on a synthetic approach (can be the crudest and most outdated engine imaginable and still has better fuel efficiency and cleaner emissions) Since synthesis works best after analysis has been done, I consider Eastern philosophy more advanced - less fear-based and thus something worth striving for. The fact that China gradually includes the option to be treated by Western medicine where Eastern medicine is doing a good job is merely a political move, big business trying to conquer new markets. So while the West is experiencing enlightenment, the East gets corrupted. That's not real progress, just running away into safety... not creating more safety for more advanced approaches. The West, too, is not a safe haven for Eastern wisdom long-term. There is not so much a coming-together in the world than an expanding dominance by fear-based systems.

Come on... If there's a duality, and one part of the duality is analysis, then what's the other part? By philosophy, I don't mean the academic discipline, but the whole package all throughout the culture, affecting all sectors.

Well, just because Einstein was jewish, I wouldn't call his scientific views jewish-based. Your lineup of influential persons is quite selective. What can be called Western thought hasn't been shaped by just four people. I would only dare the more limited statement that all three big theist religions have the same roots. There was the Torah. It's Old Testament in Christianity. Islam is based a lot on Christianity. A bit like Greek vs. Roman religion - same gods, different names. What I find interesting though is - in tendency - the clearly visibible duality of western philosophy being analytical and eastern philosophy being synthetic.

1) There is the accusation among religious people "The jews killed our messiah". As twisted as it is, it can't account for everything. 2) The talmud is in parts quite a xenophobic document. Following the talmudic philosophy of, so to speak: 'There are two types of people in the world: people who are jews and inferior people who are not jews that you can betray and exploit', will create resentment among people who just want to get along among equals. Muslims have that kind of effect in Europe to the extent that they follow the same dogmas in their belief system. Those muslims who see themselves on a holy mission to expand the might of Islam will cause pretty much the same resentment that jews cause by acting immoral to other people. All three major theistic religions have their segments that are all about power play. (The witch hunts are not a thing of the past. Female shamans in Africa are often still considered witches where Christianity tries to dominate.) It has to be kept in check, otherwise it will fully make up the public image of that religion. 3) If there is no resentment against jews in the eastern world, one has to check how many jews are living in that region. Historically many or maybe even most jews originated in western parts of Asia - mainly khazars that converted to talmudism and were then chased westwards into Europe because they were very bellicose. So historically they won't have had a strong incentive to move in the other direction. Surely is an interesting topic though - jewish presence in east-asia, past and present.