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Follow the signs We are the victims but we are also the crime And the only one who can judge us is the earth in time I will show you more, a discovery Beyond what you perceive As you're tangled in thought, believe And let your soul unleash We're well on our way but they lead us astray Perpetuate with distractions As far as we've made only as one we can save humanity The absence of what you hold dear it'll leave you stranded Heartache will stem from fear Ultimately the choice is up to you (the choice is up to you) But in the end disbelief can't be denied can not be refused They tremble in fear in the undercover sanctuary And the walls disguise despair in the undercover sanctuary I will show you more, we're uncovering Let your soul unleash The absence of what you hold dear it'll leave you stranded Heartache will stem from fear We are the victims but we are also the crime And the only one who can judge us is the earth in time We are victims yet we are the crime And the only one who can judge us is the earth Follow the signs ... Either that ... or "we love carrots" over and over. Not completely sure.

I'd have an issue if it were otherwise. Because obviously the two things are profoundly different. I'm amazed how someone could get the idea to call that allegedly fully enlightened or spiritually superior phenomenon "compassion" - using a word that is already used for empathic connection based on shared suffering. From my understanding, since there's a reason why life on the physical plane exists, the 'regular' kind of compassion is fully capable of alleviating suffering. It creates heart-opening and love. What more do you need? So-called "true compassion" sounds like part of the escapist agenda of glorifying the path to nirvana. (Especially if it is used as a replacement. Trying to practice 'real' compassion without having mastered 'ordinary' compassion?) You spend all your life trying to reach the state of nirvana and if you actually achieve it, you are greeted with uncontrollable laughter and amusement because you were The One all along. The whole point was observing the path you took towards achieving the goal. Reaching the goal has no effect. And those who become missionaries, trying to get others to reach nirvana, too, they might be like people searching for caviar to feed the world with, while others out there are more skillful, providing loving kindness en masse. @turtle shell Did you try an analgesic?

@Immortal4life It's quantity over quality now. The forces of evil are getting worked up. Just look at the crappy hollywood propaganda lately... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1790885 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2095605 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1234719

You have free will whether you want it or not, because everything is predetermined.

By the way, the Opera web browser is quite good at restoring written-but-not-sent postings. Sometimes happens that I write something in a text field and the webpage somehow messes up, and then I push the backwards button and the text is there. Opera is great in those regards. Not perfect, but works most times. The forum's new quote function sucks, though.

Your first statement is fine, but your second one not so much. You're saying actions with the intent to solve a problem of your own disprove the presence of passion? How about this?: passion + empathy = compassion No empathy: You can be passionate about your own goals and well-being, but have no incentive to help others. No passion: You feel and understand the suffering of other beings but have no impulse trying to alleviate it - neither yours nor others. An emo who writes dark poetry and mourns the state life is in - that could be an example of empathy without passion. Unless you see writing that kind of poetry as passion. But focused on the alleviation of the pain, it would definitely apply. A rich guy saying stuff like: "Man, it rocks being rich! I pity all those miserable fools who don't get their ass off the couch to become rich, too." - that would be an example of passion without empathy I guess.

It's also wise to consult the 'outer sage'. That way we don't have to make assumptions about others or our own inner sage's judgment. Because the funny thing is that, in the example chosen by you, what makes you make the general assumption that letting them go back to their spouse would be unskillful and stupid? All that this reflects is a guess about likeliness of short-term results. By expecting a certain outcome of your actions and basing your choice on that only, you fade out respect for the other people involved. Then the focus is on fulfilling your own set goal. You know what I mean? Life is full of surprises, and ignoring this will align your behavior to that perceived reality. It's a tricky thing.

Funny.

By the way, maybe the whole Second Amendment was a mistake and it was supposed to state the "right to arm bears". I would totally support that. Just for the hilarity ensuing. P.S.: That just reminded me of this picture:

Interesting contributions. I still believe if you pour oil and water into a glass, you have a cocktail, not a smoothie. I mean... "How do I make my compassion more efficient?" - that sounds so wrong.

That comment made my day!

This is an interesting paradox. A music style that you cannot make a parody of because it inherently is a self-parody.

That's why I don't eat them anymore.

You forgot "Get a life/job/girlfriend!"to make the sheeple-agent-of-status-quo clichée perfect. Grabbing people by their emotions (like you demonstrate here) is exactly how propaganda works. The same way as when I tell someone that HIV doesn't exist, I get a response like: "I knew a friend who died of AIDS - how dare you!" People are so massively muddling up emotion and fact. Strong emotions turn off the capacity for logic.

The writer of the article is under the misconception that you can live without technology. Sorry pal, but a bucket is technology, too. I respect her wish to live a simple life. It's just that this so often comes with a bullshit package. What if someone presents a very simple and easy to maintain way of generating electricity for her? Will she welcome the simplicity of the added comfort? Probably not. What I'm trying to point out is that there's a basic problem with a mindset like that: You have to draw a line, and you have to be aware that that line is arbitrary and subjective. It's good though that there are people experimenting, setting precedents, being an example and inspiration.

@Taomeow Apart from your example sounding very extreme, more like an empath lacking self-control: This would make compassion into a thing of the mind, an area where what you believe is the right course of action better turn out to actually be the skillful one. If you equal skillful action with compassion in this way, then compassion becomes goal-oriented, which has a bad vibe to me. Why not let skillful action stand for itself? Why does it have to dress in something that it's not? There can be a relationship between the two, that's all. If you give compassion a goal-oriented flavor, it can destroy compassion. That's what I meant: It is confusing things and that confusion can ruin clarity. Straightforward action might require sacrifice and/or courage, and the mind can come up with all kinds of reasonings why a more complicated, elaborate course of action should be preferrable. I think this stands against some statements made about true masters, in the Dao De Jing for example: They act without calculating. The innately know what to do and do it, get the job done, move on, without politics or strategy. It flows naturally. And from my examination of many life situations this rings true and is confirmed. Sometimes the most effective course of action is so simplistic and straightforward, so much without pondering and planning, that it almost appears insulting to some. Maybe people afraid to take that route have a false sense of not wanting to meddle with other people's karma. In a way it's a fear of responsibility or attachment, maybe unjustified. Our ability to change people's lives stems from action, to be an influencing factor. Being afraid of fulfilling that role is self-limiting. You could compare it to the metaphor of 'getting your hands dirty'. Dirt is earth. It is grounding. ;-) The world is full of this: "Please help! I need this thing." - "No, but here's what you should do:" Those people better be sure they know better than that person what the person needs.

Oh, he was wrong about Bush being behind 9/11?! When did that matter get resolved? Are you also believing Saddam had WMDs when the USA invaded Iraq? Let Alex Jones be angry. It's his thing. He has a place in all of this. Don't be a uniformist. BTW the rich elite loves new age spirituality telling people to be calm and polite. Makes it easier to succeed with their world domination plans. I think the world has a dire need for peacemakers and revolutionaries alike. What it has too much of is people who are neither. What I find a bit sad about Alex Jones is that on one hand he's warning passionately about propaganda lies and all that, and on the other hand he's totally a child of the cold war "Communist menace" propaganda of the past. He names Hitler, Stalin and Mao in one sentence with Castro. If he can't apply the same awareness to himself that he preaches to others, then he's a fool. Not completely worthless since he's raising awareness about issues, but not highly trustworthy as a person. In one video he adds Hugo Chavez to the list of names. Man, that's so fucked up. Hugo Chavez is one of the very few (if not the only) heads of state who are actually trustworthy. So Alex Jones basically says: 'Revolution yes, but it has to be a true American capitalist revolution. Socialism is still evil.' He believes he is right in such a narrow focus that he takes a dump on people who are like-minded.

Obomber = Barack Ohbummer - United States Empire Supreme Leader and Nobel War Prize Winner ( BTW that prize is dynamite! ) The claim that people go on a killing spree because it is considered glamorous is absurd. The media has always acted like it does regarding violence, and there have always been violent thriller movies and such. Fiddling with symptoms will only mask the real problem, and that's what society does all the time. They're in denial and don't want to take responsibility. It's classical immaturity. Also, I almost had to laugh at the TV show there consulting a psychiatrist who then gave the advice to make the reports boring. Problem solved, haha. Setriously, psychiatry is highly questionable because it violates so many scientific principles, and psychiatry is light years away from psychology, especially when goverment-appointed. Psychiatrists are licensed drug pushers for maintaining the dominant order, and there are interesting studies that show how the doctors in psychiatric clinics are the ones acting irrationally and like psychotic sociopaths. As usual, the real causes are suppressed in the corporate media. I highly recommend the following video for some examples of what is kept from the mass public: The Drugging of our Children One very shocking example from that documentary is the fact that when a caring mother doesn't want her child to be forced into taking mind-numbing drugs for making it more obedient and controllable, she is accused - the mother - of kidnapping her own child and then the government will kidnap her child and hide him from her. This is severe tyranny. And as history repeats itself, it is possible because the masses are uninformed, fed with bullshit propaganda, and they want it that way.

You're right. I was thinking of your mother. I see clearly now. Praise people's assurances!

Bit off topic, but things like this strike my curiosity. You wrote two names right, and the third name where you said you hope you spelled it right you spelled wrong, as if you knew you did it wrong, but still you spelled it the same way in a later post. You took the time to make that comment, but what you didn't do is simply check one of his postings and write it like it's shown there. Can you shed light on what your inner process was there?

There's so much information missing in this post that one would assume would pop up as curiosity right away. Your contact said you visited him ... and that's it? No Wow? No how?

To me what happened there is that the incentive for the mother to say "Pay attention!" was the belief that her daughter did NOT pay attention, and a fear-based belief is what sends manifestative energy into the world. The mother was figuratively speaking shooting a violent beam of failure at her daughter whose heart then had to try and defy it with self-confidence. The more independent that girl is, the less she believes her mother's word is the epitome of truth, the safer she is from mishaps. P.S.: The new forum quoting function sucks. Can I have copy&paste-capable code again somehow?

Making this statement might have been a mistake, haha. It reads like an invitation to test it. Don't confuse immaturity and childishness. Children are very different, based on how they grew up, but what generally characterizes children independant of social influences are things like playfulness, relaxed carelessness and such. A refusal to take responsibility is immature - it's behavior based on fear. Fear that they picked up in their social environment.

You can observe the same phenomenon on a bigger scale - a national scale. It's all energy fields, patterns, frequencies influencing each other, like fast vibrating molecules make neighboring ones vibrate faster, too. Think about HOW people talk, how they put emphasis, sound in their language that doesn't contain rational information, but makes it distinctive (e.g. southern USA, scottish). Or take gestures: You think there's any rational purpose why African Americans tend to move a certain way when they talk? You could see a black shadow move and would know it's not a 'white guy' talking. And movies can have the same effect. It's all about admiration. If you admire someone, you have a tendency to emulate them, hoping to get into the same 'vibe', the same mindset. This can be very superficial, or become deeper if you are able to explore the deeper regions of the vibe. It can also be caused by the opposite - adversity. If there's a perceived enemy and you feel you are inferior, losing, then you might attempt to emulate their behavior (often regarding reasoning if it's a rivalty in communication) in the hope that that superficial imitation will lend you the same power. To a certain degree, this is the widespread behavior that's described by the Christian metaphor "Satan the deceiver".

Naoki had a lot of bad self-indoctrination there. Probably coming from resignation. So beautiful though how well he was accepted by her family. Her dad saying they are considered a "strange family" by people around - strange is good. It shows things not in the mainstream. It's healthy. And especially what her father emphazised: openness. The widespread social sickness in Japan is closedness and pretentiousness. Very likely all things that were engrained in the culture by powerful leaders imprinting their own issues onto society. Also, when the filmmaker said about the workplace experience that it looked like communism pretending to be capitalism, I thought, wow, he couldn't have been more wrong and confused, as it should be obvious that it's capitalism pretending to be communism - if at all. Depends on how you interpret communism.