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How can you not create karma while still having a bodily existence? You are more or less interacting with and influencing the world, if you want to or not. Yes, maybe he makes some good points, but he doesn't present them as seeds for insight, but as personal truth equalled to objective truth. He overanalyzes something where the message is between the lines, which he should know. People keep confusing one set of credentials with another one, e.g. ability and character. He might be a "highly experienced practitioner and teacher", but I still wouldn't take bits of wisdom from him, since my character development is at another stage. And I think many wise people will agree that tempered character can go well without ability, but ability can't go well without tempered character.

Although this looks like a preachy outburst , why hold back when it comes from the heart? These writings of yours might be very useful to yourself later, for re-reading them as a refresher during not so pleasant times. I assume that this simple mantra might have had such a profound effect because things looked so grim. You know, when things are clearly messed up, it's easy to improve something. When a misery is more subtle, it might be difficult to even see the problem in the first place. An all-time low can be a blessing I guess. It's a bit like with society. As long as the misery is not growing quickly to an extreme, people learn to adapt and bear the pain.

We're all one.

Ok, I mistakenly thought nirvana can only be achieved without 'bodily existence in this realm'. So still having unpleasant feelings, but not suffering under them is awakening? What is this "awakening" then? And maybe you should replace the word "feeling" with "sensations". Unpleasant feelings are suffering, unplesant sensations are pain, no? What can I say? ... Check! Seriously, I am getting confused because from what I experienced after only two ayahuasca trips, I am not sure whether I am already damn close to enlightenment or far from it. Maybe I got a taste of it. Seems all very trivial after the experience. (I perceived the fractal, infinite creator of all reality and whenever I tried not to focus on normal reality, but on that creative source, I would freak out because it felt like I ceased to exist and that state would go on for all eternity with no sleep, no rest, no change - just everything happening kinda simultaneously or whenever I formed a thought. And because there was no time existing, I couldn't decide to let go for a while, you know, because the very first moment of focusing on the source would already feel like an eternity. Not because I couldn't perceive progressive events or visual movements anymore, but because there was no outer sensory input that would give me a timeframe. Also, at times (hah!) the external felt like it's all happening inside. I am considering that that was all a mere mind-internal loop (trapped inside my head, so to speak), but it seems so similar to people's statements about highly spiritual states of perception.) P.S.: The guy from the linked article is obviously showcasing a lot of internal issues, so not that helpful when talking about spiritual stuff like that. He's full of personal agenda and emotional judgment. He is vigorously rejecting an implication that he can't handle, because it would question the validity of his life's contribution, so to speak. That's kinda ironic, enlightenment-wise.

Quite a bit of writing effort for a troll. And as mentioned before, who knows that those mantras did. The context can be very special. There are so many possibilities and variables.

By itself, not saying much. Linking to concise scientifical proof and data about speed of pole shift in past and now would be more helpful. So far I didn't bother reading up in detail about the pole shift thing because I got bored reading up on all the other interesting stuff and then people not really caring.

Wow, so animals are regarded as lower than ghosts. Does that mean that animals are not spiritual beings? Sounds to me like a belief system based on outdated prejudice. Also no surprise that humans are regarded as one of the higher realms - above average. On the whole reincarnation thing: Why would one want to actively strive for nirvana? OK, it's an interesting occupation for spending your lifetime, but if you strive for it because you don't want to reincarnate infinitely, then what's so desirable about being nothing but pleasant awareness (if that remains that is)? Ever wondered why our lives exist in the first place? Maybe because eternal serenity is as unsustainable as is eternal suffering. Maybe once you reached that desired state of freedom from suffering, you will suddenly find yourself in the very pleasantness you expected, but not because nothing is happening, but because you are enjoying the creation of the very reality you just managed to escaped from. I want to see your face then. Maybe those stories about people reaching enlightenment through totally affirming life are meant to tell us that life is enlightenment, and why there's also that saying that we already are enlightened, but don't know it. Not saying that once we come to a realization, once we 'remember', we will jump into a state of nonexistance or whatever, but saying that eventually you come to a realization that life is for living. And this including that everything that happens happens for a reason, so your striving for escaping the cycle of rebirth and suffering was part of that theater play, but an illusory aim, because achieving the aim will only make you end up in life again. And how would you know it's not like that if you just abandoned your mind, your personality, your everything? If it weren't like this, then what happens if more and more souls reach nirvana? Aren't there more and more people in this world? Where are they all coming from? Maybe they are you.

So... did someone message a moderator/admin about checking the internet origin of both members? Would make a lot of agree/disagree posts unnecessary and would be more fair when you state a suspicion.

And what does she recommend to do when nothing comes and nothing goes?

Bad term for that by the way, since it has religious origins and connotations. The interesting but often overlooked meaning of the word holocaust is the religious name for a sacrificial offering by fire. (That meaning is also intended by some zionists regarding the Jewish holocaust.) How about global nuclear annihilation? ( Language provides so much variety. ) Hm, or maybe you did dream it in a religious context. P.S.: I'm only commenting on this because language shapes thought and thought shapes language.

Did Jenny state a belief like that, or is it your belief, or just an attempt at making a joke?

Excitedly awaiting your report about that visit tomorrow.

Spoiler: We're collectively creating our reality. So if enough people believe with a lot of emotion that something world-changing is happening at the end of 2012, that craze itself might be the self-fulfilling prophecy. Regarding the poll: Had two dreams some weeks ago, with a few days or weeks in-between. I don't remember the order, but one was me at home with family, at night, and space aliens were attacking, with energy beams I think. I knew/thought they'd wipe out the whole human race, and couldn't handle that very well. Felt kinda unfulfilling to me. The other one, I was in a huge rectangular office building, very spacey, didn't even see any furniture, and when looking out the windows, there was nothing but forest, all around. Felt nice actually. Then an alarm signal sounded, not a conventional one, more like a loud buzzer, and a few seconds after that, the building was shaking so much that we (?) had trouble staying on our feet, and I think I almost fell down an escalator or something. Somehow in the dream I knew or assumed that that wasn't a regular earthquake, at least not like on planet Earth (maybe I was on another planet, not sure), but more like something immensely powerful was tearing the ground apart. Had a lot of mundane/weird dreams lately.

Difficult to explain, but I will try: For me, the solid has to support the subtle, if the subtle is based on it. When you talk about geometric forms, then that picture contains circles and additional forms that easily escape the attention which create the false impression that the picture shows a spiral. Of course that impression is a reality, but people sometimes confuse impression and material reality, and it is very useful that I don't so easily. Darren Brown shows how useful that skill can be in our world. That picture also shows us that there is a difference between our senses and our mind, and even our mind is separated. One part says there is a spiral, another part keeps examining and figures out that it's circles. You know, in an unconventional way, I have done a lot of awareness meditation.

You can believe that out of a first impression and then still go in circles for all your life. My mind isn't easily fooled. (That can be a blessing and a curse I guess.)

Jep! I guess Cameron is vulnerable to the drama thing. Max, back in 2009 at the seminar, was like that, too. Said he doesn't like all the drama at TTB. That's why he created the Kunlun forum. I guess at some point you will stop having negative feelings about it. Besides, is the statement about Max stealing stuff from Jenny drama? I think a drama is less about statements, but about reactions and interaction. It needs emotional vulnerability. From my knowledge, Max was told some of his techniques (maybe the spontaneous stuff) by Jenny and she asked him to keep it private, because it was meant solely for him. Then he went public with his whole set of techniques, including Jenny's and Jenny got very angry. Seems she got over it, though. And Max somewhat modified it, which can be argued about whether it made it a creative original or not. Life is colorful, and can be a drama. No point in emotionally attaching to it. If it happens, then a life lesson is knocking on the door. Another example: I have a lot of sympathy for Max. The same goes for Kan, based on my somewhat more limited knowledge about him. I also have a lot of sympathy and respect for my teachers in the USA. But one day one of them told me that Kan was known in Japan as a con artist. You know what I did? Looked a bit puzzled and shrugged internally. Maybe he tried to mess with my mind. Maybe it is true. A lot about Kan today is true, too. I guess if you get emotional about stuff like that, you're idealizing people.

I so much agree. Although silly dancing is an easy one. Misery and decay is a beauty less easy to recognize.

Inability to sum up something allegedly understood, instead referring to a book the other person very likely doesn't have. Hmmmmm...

'Feeling compassion for someone who is not suffering, because you know in the future they are going to fall into suffering.' The monk only addressed this in one sentence, when he talked about having pity for what they are going through. Are they suppressing their pain in order to avoid suffering? Or is that process still creating suffering on a deeper level? Even if not: Basing your compassion on the expectation that they will eventually suffer sounds weird to me. Maybe they will die without allowing themselves to 'suffer'. Personally, if I had the strength and means to help someone who is considered "evil", then that would come from an understanding that if that person was helped and thus enabled to not suppress their pain any longer, they would be happier afterwards, and other people would not have to suffer under their behavior that is derived from suppression of pain. Helping one person to reduce their suffering has a ripple effect. I am aware that this is somewhat more active than that passive state of non-cruelty, but here's a thought: Cruelty as used by that monk seems to mean malice, because you can also act in a way intended to help someone, and then that other person is choosing to suffer, is being cruel to themselves. So it's a 50/50 thing in those cases. Unintentional cruelty, if you will. You know, pain is a sensation, suffering is a choice. Apparently, from the monk's view, compassion is not rooted in the desire to reduce suffering, because that would be an agenda, and, well, a desire. I totally agree with that monk regarding permanent compassion being a result of wisdom.

Thank you! That was hilarious.

There are so many vague terms in that statement. What is clever? What is spiritual? There are stories of 'ordinary' people doing their simple thing and achieving enlightenment through that. Another point: How can you distinguish a life where someone is 'being led' to enlightenment from one where someone is not, when everything more or less influences everything else? If you acknowledge life as a teacher, then there is nothing we do 'by ourselves'. Consider this as one insight on the path of enlightenment.

That's what I tried to convey - that I agree with this. I think the strength for transcending something comes from having gotten to know it. All the talk about transcending somewhat neglects what life is for. I am hesitant to recommend something specific here just because I experienced it myself recently, but if you have the means to participate in an ayahuasca ceremony (or smoke DMT as a somewhat less efficient replacement), it can help the sincere seeker figure out stuff that otherwise would remain hidden and could require a master psychologist and long therapy to dig up. Apparently you have stored a lot of negative self-affirmation, and if you need the energy that those steal for something productive, then ayahuasca/DMT can help in purging you of those. It's like a universal life-help medicine, and its efficiency depends on how much you surrender to the process. Afterwards, you might feel released of a burden, with new views on life, and then you can cultivate those. (Although cultivation could be difficult when not much is happening in everyday life.)

A lot of personal philosophy in your writings, a lot of "trust me", "I promise", "I guarantee you". I don't like antidepressants, because they only fiddle with symptoms, but still, they CAN help someone make a crucial empowering step, so I tend to reject popular spiritual dogmas about transcending and true/false. Often people say that when there is an imbalance, you have to acknowledge that it's all an illusion. But that's a difficult step, it's like skipping a lesson. The most straightforward step would be to recreate balance, and for a healer/helper to assist in that process (which is partially done here, I didn't overread that). BlueMonk91's situation is not a clichée. Everybody's situation is more or less different. So we should be careful before we try to implant suggestions of certainty into other people's minds that might go into conflict because we don't know the person fully. In this regards, it is funny how my recent ayahuasca experience was very profound and showed me all the stuff about Oneness that people keep talking about, and it clearly released a lot of emotional junk that I couldn't release by myself. And still... all that didn't have much practical effect. So digging all the way to the root might not be a good general advice. There are many ways of healing. I think it takes a masterful amount of skill to figure out what specifically a person needs. Sometimes that person already knows it themselves. In short: Unless you know a person's 'personal destiny', it would be wise to simply make recommendations, not to implant certainties. Help them discover their way, don't ask them to follow yours. And here's a funny twist: Maybe in some cases implanting certainties is the right approach. So don't believe everything I say.

I recently made a thread here where I cut&pasted a text from another website. Man, the guy was angry when he noticed his text was gone! Everything comes from the source anyway. How could you possibly list the source, when the process of listing the source is part of the source itself?