Edward M

Apologies, I came to the solution - please delete this topic - thanks!

Thanks for replies - I came to solution, its not an issue, thanks for replying all of you!

Edit - apologies!

I know someone who has been visited by Jesus, and he told me that he had a voice that was of a kindness not of this world. In the New Testament Jesus states very clearly that he has come to take away our shame and guilt. Jesus also quotes scripture and says that it is written that we are all God's. I Havent read this topic properly, and dont go on computer much these days, so may not be able to reply soon, if anyone quotes me

Anyone got any experience with this group? Trying to sort the crap from the truth right now! Peace

amazing topic, very inspiring, thanks for original post and replies to it peace

Hi Dao Bums, Don't worry, I'm not wanting to talk about mo pai, or to claim John Chang was Jesus. Am I correct in remembering John Chang saw Jesus and accepted him as lord? I'm sure I heard this somewhere, and it makes perfect sense. When you come into contact with the vibration of Jesus, it just feels so right, and you know in your heart he is Lord, and same vibration as the source, that is also sentient. How can that which is sentient come forth from that which is not? In the book of John, Jesus states both that he is lord, (You say I am lord and master, and I agree I am these things) and he also states God the father is one in the same book of John, the first John section in the Gideon New Testament. I can tell you, that when you accept in your hearts, as conscious adults, that Jesus is Lord, it invokes something within you, that if held firmly to and accepted fully, will guide you to the light body/Holy Spirit baptism. Jesus says in the new testament, to watch for an hour, before praying,. This together with him seeing all the worlds sins before him in the desert, but not reacting to them, shows us he is recommending and teaching that we develop this quality of mindfulness/vipassana that he had naturally in the desert. I'm just a beginner, but from what I've experienced, prayer is just as important when it comes to spiritual development, as meditation. It can activate higher faculties, plus you create a genuine personal connection and relationships with both father and christ. So, all those who want to do mo pai, take note, accept Jesus and you will be guided down the correct path for you towards the true light. Also remember, Jesus says in the New Testament that he came to take away our shame and guilt. Please read the new testament and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you in your understanding of its contents. Ok, take care bums, I'm not on here much often., I just felt inspired to talk about DJ and Jesus. Peace

I just want to come. back and say, that regarding secret sayings of Jesus, we should be firm in ethics/morals first, and know the New Testament well, and follow Ten Commandments, before going onto secret sayings. This echoes Buddha talking about ethics/morals before embarking on meditation journey. The secret sayings were reserved for Jesus inner door disciples. Lewis Keizer talks about this a lot in his book on the gospel of thomas. My other part of intention in starting this topic, was that a lot of people here are already far on the path, and that knowing Jesus cold further their progression and also introduce mo pai fans to Jesus, I'm sorry I made a bad attempt at this. I'm leaving this topic now, I ask please that no one post on here anymore, I dont want to embarrass Christ anymore. Peace

I didn't read the link to gospel of thomas, but I'm guessing its out of date... Lewis Keizer in his book on the gospel of thomas said an Aramaic copy had been found that dated to very early on. Jesus does say very clearly that God is spirit, and this together with him saying the kingdom of God is within, most certainly points to a direction of going inwards though contemplation, meditation and also prayer. Ok, so I'm out of this topic now,.... like I said I'm just a beginner, I'm not ready to talk about Jesus clearly on the internet, so please forgive my attempt to do so... I actually really wanted to find out if DJ had met him in a vision... no worries.. I wish you all the best, and I hope you attain full enlightenment in this lifetime. peace

Ok, im being honest when I say I've never read the book of revelations properly. I'll read it and see what comes up. Thanks, I was't aware of that. I just know that having a personal relationship with Allaha and Jesus has done me a great deal of good, and I know in my heart Jesus is Lord, it feels so right and helps inspire me. The gospel of Thomas predates the new t gospels. The book of thomas says the passages if understood fully would give eternal life. in the g of t oe passage states that to know god we must know the nature of the present moment. I think before we go to these teachings we should work on moral ethics, loving neighbour as self and putting what buddha called silla into practice. Thanks again for posting that out, I had never heard that before. OK, so back on again, it came to me that the eternal realm of damnation is only for those souls that get in the way of the divine plan as ordained from the first cause, so much, that they have to be put there for the sake of the rest of us. But also, the realm is eternal, but perhaps not the occupants of the realm if they are able to turn back towards God and repent. Again I haven't read its properly, but that al just came to me. peace

Jesus brought a new covenant, "a time is coming where the true worshipers will worship in spirit and in truth, God is spirit" Peace

Hi, thanks for responses. There was a reason I put ask the hoy spirit to lead you when you read the New Testament, as not everyone in the church has the right interpretation. If the whole of the new testament is not put into consideration as well, it can cause misunderstandings. That one passage about taking away our shame and guilt along with watch for an hour before praying, should show some people that they are misinterpreting the gospel. It is Jesus that is assigned to judge us, and look how he forgave them whilst on the cross, his teaching has been misrepresented so much. So, I just put this topic up to show that accomplished masters all the see the truth of Jesus and his teachings. Peace

please delete,... very sorry for doing over and over

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sorry second thoughts, too serious to mess with, dont want further trouble..... sorry, please delete Peace, Edward

sorry, I dont know if Im having black magic done on me or not. if anyone is able to sense if its so.. would you if you have the capacity please break spells etc... no need to tell me, you cant know who it is until after spell is broken.. peace

no problem, I can deal with it,, no worries

Thanks to all who posted here, its made me feel a lot better. Have many out of the ordinary experiences at the moment, and because its all very new and uncharted territory, I'm still getting to grips with handling it well. Many thanks for all your kind and meaning full words. Peace to you all,

sorry for deleting second time in a week, I thought better of posting this..... should deal with problems myself.. Peace

Sorry too paranoid to post what I put there, getting barrage of spiritual abuse, not sure how sane I am these days..no mind left from dark influence.

"I have said ye are all God's' 'the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the gentiles, who were then allowed to be baptised in the name of Jesus' Couple of quotes to ponder above from the new testament. They show the universality of Jesus's teaching and mission, and that no one system can claim ownership of the truth. How do you think society is set up in this regard? to me, it seems like we have people that have declared parts of the earth to be owned by them, and have control over who can live where which is dictated by how much money one has earned. The land owns itself, how can someone own land? The use of money in place of trade, means we are slaves to the system, because someone claims ownership of the land and since the system covered the earth in concrete, we can no longer set up camp and forage for food. The fact that the system is money based means whoever controls the money controls the world. "be in the world but not of it' How can this teaching applied now? Rome is still here, that is what Jesus was against, the system that is dictated by the greed of man. 'I am in the father and the father in me. I am in you'. 'The kingdom of God is within' Where is God if not in in his kingdom? Under that stone is where you will find me, is what christ said about himself. Jesus points out the presence of God is everywhere. I'm trying to show how society is set up so that we are slaves to the money earners/tax collectors, and that it is against realisation of the true self and presence of God. We live in a world where we cannot move freely or live where we want because of money and land ownership, as well as vast amounts of the earth being covered in concrete. This system is unsustainable, Mother Earth will fight back. Its a synthetic system cast upon the natural system. I'm not saying we should all live in forests or woodland, I'm just saying that balance must be taken care of, and harmony with the natural order. permaculture is one idea that springs to mind in terms of balance. We go to work at nine in the morning, and come out at five in the afternoon with only enough time to have dinner and try to relax in prep for the next day at work. Seeing as human life on earth is said to be rare occurrence and our only shot at realisation, we should not be getting enslaved by this system. "Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things will come to you'. Seek kingdom of God and you will have all the freedom you need. Most people look for freedom in land and money based things, but true freedom is within, as taught by all the masters. Jesus taught that we need no middle men, the truth is within, and that as the rain falls on both sinner and saint, we are all equal in the eyes of God. Hope you are able to see the truth in what I say, and I obviously I hope I'm not talking rubbish. I've been under some kind of occult attack for the past 14 months, and got the message to let people know what I see this morning from someone I have great respect for. Money and land owner ship are the causes of todays ills, IMHO. I dont claim to have truth, I'm just a regular person, but I felt I should make public my opinions. Its up to us to decide how we want to live, based on our own higher guidance. Emptiness and dependent origination teachings shows us the state is nothing without its subjects/citizens, its all one big illusion. The power is in everyones hands to change. I'm not trying to invoke any big movement or anything like that, rather just to help empower people to live in truth. Like I said, I'm just a regular person, so ponder for yourselves what I've said and come to your own conclusions. Move this to different forum is needed, hope this is the right place to post. I hope that no one has a go at me for expressing opinion of my own. Ive had 14 months of people doing magic on me already. Magic in my opinion is getting in the way of the flow of Tao, or of the first cause. The first cause explains how prayer works. If we are praying to the first impulse of creation/emanation, then the first cause can deliver to us now the outcome of our prayer. Thats one way, some people talk of casting intent as prayer. I can see truth in both explanations. I mean no harm, I just want peace and harmony for us all, and I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, just trying to introduce ideas that may be helpful to both humanity and the rest of life on earth. I'm not on computer much these days, so probably won't be reading this much. Apologies for jumbled up way of writing, I'm felling under great pressure and lost all sense privacy for a long time, I hope its just my imagination that I'm being watched and messed with occultly, but a lot of the time it feels that way. Peace. Edward

Brilliant topic, especially the flow of Awen bit! Love the talk of ancient beings of light Cheers, Edward

Agreed, thanks!

Hi There, whenever I meditate at home, I keep talking involuntarily things that are not from my self. The general theme is that of conditioning me not to meditate. I can't fully tell if this is disconnected aspects of the psyche, spirits being channeled involuntarily, or the occult trying to stop me. Anyone able to tell what is happening? Peace

Thanks for your replies! I can see the truth in what all of you say, its just hard to see it that way in the midst of meditation when usually the spoken words are threatening, or abusive towards myself. Ive also had this happen when praying, I was praying and another voice cut straight through my own and said something completely irrelevant to what I was saying. Sub conscious mind is a powerful thing, I guess I've brought all this on my self by the way I lived before. Cheers!