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I think humans are stupid. Isn't it well documented that fluoride causes problems for humans? And yet they started putting it in the water in Australia, when they have gotten along just fine without it for god knows how long... Here's some shocking news as well: peoples' teeth are still going to fall out. Crumby diet will do that

Dao Child, How do you explain chi being transmitted out of the hands?

Evolved...? Or inaccurate? For one how does this view of qi explain energy transmission (qi being transmitted out of the body)?

Yeah, I figured that out after posting it Check out my edit to the above post, at the top of the post.

thehatinthecat, Qi is energy, I can feel it. Just thought you could benefit from a personal testimonial. Also, qi can be transmitted out of the hands/fingers, how can it do that if it isn't energy? Talk to YaMu about it, he is a skilled qigong therapist. I agree with the diet part especially. You can't feed the body Triskets, canned baked beans, french fries and Twinkies every day and expect some needles to make you healthy. I'm very into nutrition actually. I am not trying to do anything personally, only trying to learn if Chinese Medicine Doctor is a viable path for me. Yes, I don't feel good about not disrupting peoples' lives. I want to tell them to change their diet etc... However I see this as a potential reason not to get into the field. If people expect to not have to change their lifestyle I'd rather not even pursue the profession. Lots to think about... Thanks.

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solxyz, Is it overly simplistic to say an orange is a fruit, or a cat is a small furry animal? Ultimately you are gonna have to experience something to really know what it is. The words will never capture the reality of qi. However, I notice a lot of people seem to have not experienced qi. If you experience it then you know from personal experience that it is energy that flows through you, like electricity through a wire.

Besides what you mentioned i can feel a lot of energy at the baihui and can feel energy flowing along my meridian somewhat like water. I can direct my energy to different parts of my body at will. I have felt at times particular meridians more strongly, usually when it is being cleared.

Yes they do.

Qi is life force energy. Science doesn't need to get a grasp of it to understand it. We can't grasp gravity but we understand it. In fact we can't grasp much at all. Can't grasp heat, light, electricity or the mind, but we can study them with the scientific method.

Michael, exactly.

I don't agree with this: "I do not agree you cannot always confirm intuition with reason" I also think you have some kind of contorted idea of what science means. Science means the application of the scientific method. Nothing more. It's cool. If you were considering spending $39000 on school you might ask some questions too. It's always a simpler matter when you don't have a much on the line. You're mentioning a bunch of stuff about qi that's not really important. I just would like to hear about science and Chinese Medicine. Qi exists != Chinese Medicine works well. There's sooooo much to Chinese Medicine. Anyhow, I've taken 松永道's experience into account; duly noted. I wonder what you have against the scientific method. To me it is merely the crystalization of the same logical reasoning processes I use on a daily basis. I've got a ton of respect for the scientific method. You may not, but I suspect you really just don't respect the stupid scientists. I wade through science, I don't just take it on face value. I like to look into the studies to see if they make sense to me. I like it. And I'm selfish like that. Peace.

Just my 2 cents: The phrase "creating gaps in thought" seems strange. There are already gaps between thoughts. Perhaps just relax into those gaps, and enjoy them, and see them grow longer over time?

It won't happen. Freedom reigns.

Feeling qi doesn't mean that every aspect of Chinese Medicine is accurate! My loyalty lies with reason. Because the belly can always be confirmed with reason. So there's no real reason to rely strictly on intuition.

The explanation is only silly if you have some doubt about the flow of qi through the meridians. But to me it working for anesthesia is not what Chinese Medicine is billed as. It's billed as a complete system of rebalancing the body to recover and prevent man, many, many diseases.

Well for me, the thing is, I don't want to commit to a long training if it doesn't work, lol.

froggie, be careful about info on any site that is selling you products. Look for points of viw that go against what they are saying on that sire, then compare and contrast. I always consider "information" from merchant sites to be extremely suspect. It doesn't mean it is necessarily wrong, but you really need to look somewhere else to find out the truth. Good luck.

Josh, if we're going to imitate the way nature spews out stuff so natural selection can weed out the crappy species, let's do it right now. Let's just weed the messed up ones and NOT EAT THEM.

Why do I post? Because I felt like it. Simple. Any explanation beyond that and it gets murky. You didn't offend anyone. It's all relative. A long earth worm is a short snake. Opinion is everywhere. Everyone is entitled to one. The tricky part is when you start to think yours has any more merit than someone else's.

Josh, With all do respect your entire post is filled with opinion. Just a loooooonnnnnggg opinion. Some people like oranges, some people like papayas, some people don't lie either, some people like both.

Josh, You make good points. It's a conundrum. How to have business operate efficiently, while also, having the Whole operate efficiently? I guess that is what laws are supposed to be there for.

I believe studies have shown that animals fed Genetically Modified foods have not been as healthy as animals fed normal food.

We in the US grow up with this sort of idea that the "bad" stuff of history is behind us. Humans from "history" were crazy and a bunch of nut jobs, but now we'rein a age of sanity. It's really just a way we psychologically protect our selves. The world is f-ing crazy guys. Really crazy. Horrors abound on planet Earth.