Thunder_Gooch

It's exactly how it is. What was taught is clear, you can play games of semantics all day if you wish however. It's easy to see the agenda at play with Mjj. He is a good guy but he wants the mo pai fanaticism to stop, so he endorses whatever teacher he can and tries to encourage people to take it up as a replacement. First it was KAP, now Stillness Movement. Tomorrow? Who knows. What is surprising to me is Mjj uses his association with Kosta to give himself credibility, then in the same breath disagrees with Kosta on major issues, when it serves the purpose of promoting whatever system he is endorsing as a mo pai replacement. What Jim and Kosta were taught is clear, feel free to plug your ears and pretend otherwise though. It is the end of the discussion, it is how things are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTvyP_KWv50 Not something I will discuss in public.

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I don't know for certain where microbes in the stratosphere get yin chi? I assume from the nutrients they eat. Has nothing to do with my idea of it, it's how it is. Teachings are passed down from teacher to student, are by your definition "hearsay". Surprisingly all students heard the same thing. No JohnC there are not. Worldwide a handful of schools work with Yin energy, everything else works purely with yang energy. If you are not grounded to the earth during meditation you are not absorbing yin chi. End of discussion. I'll give you that this is what you believe, doesn't mean that's what is. Being grounded to the earth during meditation is the only possible way. It is absolutely necessary to absorb yin energy. If whatever you are calling yin energy can be felt in a waking state of consciousness, being grounded to the earth isn't necessary, then it is not yin energy. It's either yang energy or your imagination one. Whatever you guys are experiencing it isn't what mo pai is calling yin chi.

All I know is if you meet a spirit which has a human mind, it's yin and yang chi were fused before it's death. Perhaps there are other means to this end, I don't know.

No revolution ever happens until the people are so angry, so miserable, that they would rather die than continue living that way. When people have lost everything and are ready to die, then things change and not before.

The physical matter in your body itself is yin we are called yang beings because of the energy that animates us. To be honest I don't know about the bacteria in the upper atmosphere and how they get yin chi, perhaps the same way cacti get water in the desert? I wouldn't think that JC's yin chi goes away when he is in an airplane, so perhaps whatever it is these microbes "eat" came from the earth and has just enough yin qi to sustain them.

In the video with Jim and John, John creates a dense yin energy field which allows Jim to force yang energy out of his body. The dense field of yin acts like a conduit for the yang energy to flow through. Normally yang energy can only leave the confines of your body if a conduit like metal is present or via direct physical contact with another person. Yin energy very weakly interacts with the physical world, making it virtually imperceptible, however if dense enough it can act as a conduit for yang energy which can interact with the physical world. When yin and yang energy are fused as one inside the body then it can leave the body at will and interact with the environment as well. I would bet money if anything it is a yang only phenomenon, even then perhaps 90% imagination for most people. Virtually no one on earth works with yin chi. So am I. Virtually no one on earth fuses their yin and yang energies before death. They are left in the same state a mundane person is, their yang energy scatters to the wind and what is left behind is a burnt out shell of their former self. Kosta says level 30 to truly be considered a hsien, another source (perhaps unreliable) told me 37. http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-06/bacteria-33000-feet http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827874.800-life-is-found-in-deepest-layer-of-earths-crust.html http://sciencenordic.com/bacteria-thrive-bottom-mariana-trench All life is the interplay of yin and yang energies, without yang we are dead, without yin we couldn't exist.

I don't think it does unless you make a mound of dirt and or are in full lotus. I don't really want to sit with my *** in the literal dirt so I use a grounding wire. I haven't tried them, but these might help http://www.nanosilver.eu/Underwear/

I don't know if the gravitational pull of the moon brings more yin to the surface of the earth or not... maybe? In the video where Jim's yang chi exits his body and knocks over the vhs boxes in the garage, John provides a dense yin energy field which allows Jim's yang chi to leave his body. If a dense field of energy is present a level 2a should be able to demo such ability, once yin and yang are fused as one however this is no longer necessary. I would think you would want to be perfectly balanced as imbalance manifest as illness. Ghosts are more like zombie automatons their mind is nothing like that of a human, I've heard their minds compared to cold ashes. You know when you are dreaming, you don't know you are dreaming and just experiencing it automatically, from my understanding this is more like a ghosts mind. A subconscious dreaming shell of it's former self, not lucid and aware, not able to feel or remember emotion. Maybe a handful of people fuse their yin and yang energies as one before death. Seeing as a level 72 would be a god for all intents and purposes, more powerful than any nuclear weapon we have, I'd say so. I believe science is the best system we have come up with for getting to the truth, but that doesn't mean we are advanced in any sense of the word. We are still ignorant monkey's who know next to nothing about the workings of the cosmos. Our technology while cool is a far cry from what is possible. When I say if we got our **** together we could become literal Gods, I mean just that. We could become literal Gods via science and technology.

Dang, got me there.

I sea what you did there. It was on porpoise wasn't it?

The yin spirit most die with is a far cry from the physical body, a level 72's spirit might be as dense as flesh. I believe he provides a yin field so the spirit can manifest easier. I am not sure about how actual reincarnation occurs, Chang believes there is an overseeing intelligence which replants the seeds, he was not able to go past the white and black wave which he described as temporary heaven/hell conditions which burn off karma both good and bad.

Perhaps all that survives of you is a seed. If you shine light at dirt some might be absorbed as thermal energy, the rest reflected back. Plants are able to use chlorophyll to extract the suns energy and store it as chemical energy, to grow and reproduce. I view fusion as much like what a plant is doing via photosynthesis.

Sure. Your consciousness itself is made of 100% yang energy. This being so, you cannot directly perceive yin energy in a normal waking state of consciousness, at least before yin and yang chi are fused as one in your body. Yin energy cannot be felt directly, however if a extremely dense field of yin energy were present, or energy transferred to you you would feel it by the effects it has on the yang energy in your body. What you would perceive is the reaction yang has to it, not the yin energy itself. Yin energy comes from the earth, and electrical contact with the earth is required to absorb it during meditation. Electrical insulators block it's flow. It would not be possible to gather yin chi sitting on a pillow stuffed with plastic fiber on the roof of your house with no grounding wire present. *(any substantial amount in your lifetime) **(same goes for a plastic seat on an airplane) Dense fields of yin energy can allow yang chi to leave your body. Your spirit that remains after death is made of yin energy, your consciousness made of yang energy scatters back to the environment. Yin energy can absorb kinetic energy and negate it outright, it can also transfer absurd amounts of kinetic energy over a distance when fused with enough yang energy. If you are looking for a physics textbook explanation, I don't have one. Our science hasn't "discovered" yin energy yet, in the same sense that Columbus "discovered" America.

Let's say you use light as an example, let's say most people say blue is yang and yin is red. What I am saying is that the whole spectrum of light itself is yang energy. What we call yin energy is something else altogether, not a spectrum of light at all.

A few schools may work with it, not many though. It's very difficult to work with something that isn't perceptible in normal waking consciousness. Perhaps his teachings are legit, and he works with yin chi (from grounding to the earth).

If I could have anything in the world, it would be some absolute guarantee I would never reincarnate again. I would rather exist as an immortal spirit to continue meditation and training if possible. Also winning the lottery, having my own harem, growing all my own healthy food, having time to do what I wanted, hiring professional debaters to debate with people on ttb instead for me, being 100% off grid in some super remote location, reaching total enlightenment and understanding all the mechanics and workings of the cosmos, those might be pretty cool too.

That is my understanding yes, your spirit is made of Mo Pai Yin Chi as well.

Yin energy as defined by virtually every other system on earth can be felt (at least these people claim to feel it, if that is imagined or real is up for debate) Yin energy as defined by mo pai is very specifically defined, and until you've fused your yang energy with an equal amount of yin, you cannot feel yin energy directly only by it's interaction with yang energy in your body. The only exception I am aware being in the deepest most profound depth of trance. Yin energy as defined by mo pai cannot be absorbed in an airplane, on an ungrounded plastic seat, 30,000ft above the earth, in a waking state of consciousness. It must be absorbed during profoundly deep meditation, and being grounded to the earth at the perineum point. Yin energy as defined by mo pai isn't the same thing these other people are talking about, and that's just all there is to it. I am not even sure they are working with an energy separate from yang energy or if they are even working with anything other than their own imagination. They can get mad all they want and pout and scream and whine and whatever else, but it isn't going to change this reality one bit.

It's not that I don't have experience mjj, it's that I don't talk about it. No one here would believe it, it would only stand to discredit me, so there is no point in talking about it. What I understand about people not being able to directly perceive yin energy during normal waking conscious is correct. That's based on my own observation.

I know what I experience via my own training, yet I lack the authority to quote myself on such. I usually keep my own observations and experiences to myself.

Jim wasn't my only teacher, I have also spoken to students of Kosta. I honestly believe I have a good grasp on level one as it was actually taught. If I am misguided or deluded or whatever else... so be it. I believe I have done my absolute best to understand what Chang taught his students.

I can't quote myself as my opinion on the matter holds no authority.

Maybe 10, but you got the general gist of it.