Thunder_Gooch

Yascra, Let's not play coy. If a biophysicist, a medical doctor, and the head of the mind science foundation stripping a guy to a shirt, checking him for metal and watching him power an LED with chi isn't enough to convince you, then nothing short of the academic, scientific, and medical communities changing their opinion on the matter would. It's already been done, I don't need to factor myself into the equation here. I'm not here to teach anyone anything. I just want to find serious individuals who want something real, they can teach themselves. lolwhut?

We have different definitions of "valid system". Results. Either you get them, or you don't. Real simple. I promise my system will cost you $250.00 if you decide to pay me, therefor it's a valid system.

Then best of luck to you on your path.

Either they see the videos and decide to investigate the practice for themselves or they don't. If they want to plug their ears, cover their eyes, and scream "neener neener neener... I'm not listening" more power to them.

Valid system in the same way Reiki is a valid system? Yeah I can see your point there. We just have different definitions of what valid is.

I do not believe anything I could record even if my abilities exceeded JC's would convince you of anything, nor anyone else here. John never charged any of his students a dime, nor any patients. Jim never charged me a dime. I've never charged anyone anything.

I could offer no better evidence at this point than the videos of JC and Jim. That is why I offer that as evidence for the system's effectiveness. Even then 99% of people here will plug their ears, close their eyes and make excuses as to why it cannot be real. That is not to say I haven't experienced (or documented) anything myself, only that I don't talk about it.

You'll be waiting a long time then. Nothing I could film would convince you of anything, if the videos of Jim and John didn't.

What you are calling "power" isn't power. What you are calling "meditation" isn't meditation. Don't throw out mo pai because you can't have anything more than the first few levels, already that is more than most westerners can hope to accomplish in their lifetime. If you want something real, that's where it is at. Virtually everything else is just make believe. Exaggeration? See for yourself (inside spoiler) You are just spinning your wheels with practices that no one has ever gotten results with, and no one ever will get results with. Just more make believe nonsense. You either want something real or you don't.

my horse is better: http://thetaobums.com/topic/33616-new-ttb-logo-what-i-see/

I'd like to see a community of serious, logical, rational, devoted, and focused seekers who want something real. What I see (elsewhere on the internet) is just a bunch a grown men who are role playing, playing make believe and living in a fantasy world. No serious individuals. No one who cares about something real and meaningful. The situation is such I am mortified to even label myself "spiritual" because of the connotations of newage (insert expletive here). That is worth fighting to change in my opinion.

I am more interested in fighting to change the culture I see, than in trying to teach anyone.

I would say that mantak chia or lomax would serve you equally well.

We both know that it isn't.

I wasn't talking about sexual arousal, just an controllable erection. You can feel chi physically move into and out of the penis, but nothing about it is sexual in natural, more like having manual control over it.

During deep trance you can push chi into the penis to get an instant erection, and pull it out to go back to normal.

You guys are welcome to poke fun of mo pai all you like, though I find it strange when someone calls systems like Stillness Movement silly or absurd you guys flip your collective lids and turn into a lynch mob. If you are looking for something real mo pai certainly is. If you are looking to keep yourself spiritually entertained with the new teacher of the week... More power to you.

From the void each day you witness millions of beings coming into being, and each day you see millions of beings returning. I know personally that one day I woke up here in this world, as if waking from a dream, and that someday I will leave it. We can make certain cases for what will happen after death: 1. Eternal afterlife 2. Eternal nonexistence 3. Rebirth Seeing as each day millions come from and return to the void, I think a belief in rebirth is not unreasonable. Out of all these cases, rebirth also is the only one I would want to prevent. As to why mo pai is good at it? Well previous generation masters returning (as physical and visible spirits) to interact with their students should be a tip off there.

Spiritual hoarding? Lot's of people think of spiritual practices like Pokémon, you gotta catch them all. They think if they pick out parts and blend them together they will get some super system or what have you. In reality they just wind up going nowhere and dying just like the rest of us. At least the ride was fun I guess though... Quality... not quantity is important.

Well if I understand this correctly what will happen is the threads will be split into two, whomever is OP of either thread maintains control of that thread, so it creates two threads where neither party can disagree with the other, perhaps leading them each splitting again and again, with an exponential growth curve, 2 threads, 4 threads, 8 threads, 16 threads, 32 threads, 64 threads, 128 threads, 256 threads, 512 threads, 1024 threads, 2048 threads, 4096 threads.........