GrandTrinity

Thank you, that is good, however, I am wondering if it may be possible to to see this information in more Western terms, i.e; the kidney point is directly below the edge of the ankle?

Why is he fat? What happened to the formulas for immortality? Is he an immortal? Is he familiar with 4 dimensional healing? Who is immortal? Where do they live? Is Mantak Chia much cooler than him? (i think so) How about ejecting the pearl? How do we get into Wu dang mountain? What is his favorite movies/music? How hot is his wife? How much does he meditate? Does he have a family? How much herbs does he use? Does he plan on another book? Whats up with atlantis and stuff? Egypt? The devil? God? Jesus? ancient fetus?

You teach beginners breathing, what is the advanced? What do you think of mantak chia/white cloud/winn's formulas? What is th best qigong? What is the best way to mix qigong and yoga? What is th best book on spiritual practice? How do you become a shaman? What is the best techniques for chi nei tsang? hmmm, thats all i got for now. How can I be immortal?

I almost feel like having sex with a girl who is not a taoist is a bad idea. Look at the taoist practices-they are supposed to bring all kinds of bliss? Why dont we all do them? Perhaps when the student is ready the teacher will appear. Is it normal, the way I feel? What are some experiences comparing sex with a cultivator vs. working out the issues of one-sided cultivation? Is it a problem? Or not at all? My problem is that I feel like I am on a different level than a lot of girls who I am close with. But meeting new ones its like we are on the same level: lets do it. However, this makes makes slightly turned off due to the fact that maybe they are, I dont know, unclean in some way? Like they dont have a spiritual connection. Can one person in sex have a deep spiritual connection while the other is aloof?

Most certaintly. But in order to get there we should understand the theory behind the tao/meditation/how to connecting with the heavens and earth, stars and planet/s...looking within. The problem on earth is that people seek joy outside when the only place to feel it is inside. People are in bondage/suffering because they lack the spiritual technology to access that space, it has been hidden from them...when the student is ready...

freeform, yo I got that blender last night! First thing I did was blend up an apple and it was awesome! This morning I made a this crazy drink with beats, corn, lime, ginger root, apple, flax seed...followin the recipe for the brain power smoothie...it turned out to be tasting like shit! Oh well maybe I can make it a soup...gotta make soups with this baby and fruit smoothies as vegi smoothies are pretty nasty tasting? hahaha

The 5 elements are one. Only one may understand them with relaxation and then through relative perspective. Sitting within the essence of them, they begin to expand and contract, making connections in new ways. One element is nothing without the other 4! Nothing without heaven and earth, as well! There are infinite ways to understand their application, and infinte ways to understand their cycles. Both destructive and creative! The goal is to keep it creative by observing and correcting the destruction. For example, say I am worried that I have too much fire element? I would look at this by talking to the elements. Perhaps they will tell me to use less tree element in my life and more water to balance this problem. Perhaps to acheive this I will need to breath deeper (metal/gold) into my kidneys/water element and thus be more grounded/earth element so that heaven chi comes down stronger from the heart into the kidneys. Now, of course, I would need a way to tell when the balance is fixed, so that then I could reevaluate the situation! So, for example, perhaps I would recognize that adequite heavenly chi has descended from the fire/upper world and gone down, now I would be ready for the kan and li coupling or other practices.

lol, I noticed his jaw twitches. Interesting to hear both sides of the Winn debate..something I been hearing about a good deal...someone needs to just reveal all those formuals in an easy to learn fashion...and quick! FUCK THE ELITE TAOISTS! THEY CAN LICK MY NUTSACK 999 TIMES

Good question. Yeah 2 days might be bad? I wouldnt worry about it tho!? That is awesome that you got that Dr. Wu stuff! How does the smoothies taste? My 3 horse power blender designed by NASA (got it for 250) should arrive any day now. I cant fucken wait!

I dont think that is a bad name. The gong, that is. This has so far been a very good thread. I think the 3 levels are not be looked at linearly. Has anyone acheived a perfect physical? No, so in that sense they are stuck at level one. Has anyone acheived a perfect healthy practice? If not in 1, then not in 2. And level three sounds like paradise on earth! Thanks for clearing this up, trunk. I could see all three levels in myself and the world. Now, getting from level one out to level 2? Perhaps that is a question only to be answered on a dimension beyond the third? Or just in the heart.

THAT WAS FUNNY AS HELL. I really dont want to get one but if you say its that good I am VERY slightly tempted. Damn, I got to get back on that. I do is occasionaly. For me, being only 20 years old, I found that it gave me so much muther fucken chi/jing I couldnt handle it but now, perhaps with better mediations skills and Warrior Wellness, I can transmute more.

Perhaps try James Mcritchie. I just bought a set of books from Louis Komjathy. Spiritual Qigong by twicken is great. Dan Reid's book is good, so is Mike Frost's and Ken Cohen's.

Yes I would agree. If you look at the nerves in the sacrum they lead down to the earth. The 8 holes correspond to the pa kua...Its a triangle bone. Its madly sacred! I love to think about my sacrum! If you have one sacred bone in your body it must be the mofuckin sacrum! Doing cranio sacral meditation really seems to connect to the core which holds us upright. So while the sacrum points down, perhaps the atlas bone (the top most vertebre) which connects near the "blood-brain barrier" that is connecting to the cranium, ponts up?

Do you think physical immortality is attainable? With the advent of nanotechnology in our lifetimes, I think this is a very real possibility. However, of course, such technology has moral implications that could only (in my opinion) be solved by the laws of nature-the tao (is that not what solves everything?). In theory, I suppose, this would lead to the "singularity" or universal "cosmic consciousness" and non-dual awareness? Perhaps this is very out-there. I'm sure we can acheive this without technology at all, perhaps? But it is coming. Look at the rate of growth in microproccessor technology...is anyone else thinking about this?

Awesome.

What up with subtle body sex?

Is it me or is it a coincidence that Jesus is all about the heart center and so is the Sun in taoist alchemy and the Sun of god and Son of god are like the same thing except for the letters U and O. Then, of course, where is the connection in Christianity? Or do they just ignore this isssue? Where is the sUn worship?

Jesus as a Reincarnation of Krishna Turns out the story of Jesus is just the same as that of Krishna's essentialy, copied. I guess that is relevant somehow?

The reason I started this thread is because a really attractive girl was giving me like 5 different signals that she wanted me to make a move. Instead of making a move I just relaxed and did not take action. I think it also had to do with some bad energy I got from somone else that night. However, this concept of choosing a mate is very important. Certaintly there is energetic cords that keep us attached. Its not about making more cords (as much as you can?) I think, but rather, it is about making the quality of those cords cosmic. Thank you all for answering my questions. I mostly agree with 2 trees, but I see the points in all of your opinions. Orgasm can be shallow or it can be universal. Our whole lives can be one big orgasm as taoists, or not! The mates we choose are a important, delicate and fruitful to think about. How many people here engage in dual cultivation? How many people are happy with it? I doubt more than a couple of us. Dual cultivation is very hard to work cosmicaly, but that doesnt mean it cant be done. Shit, I never done it but in my 3rd eye I could see it happening if I keep my chi pure.

To me it seems like the formulas allow us to connect within and then sitting in wuchi and letting thing arise will tend to open things in the external world, making connections so healing can happen.

working on Path Notes of an American Ninja Master and Road To heaven about taoist hermits...both are pretty awesome. Here is a cool list of books a Taoist named Michael Rinaldini in Sebastpool, Caly recommends: Reading Resources Qigong The Way of Qigong, Ken Cohen. The Healing Promise of Qi; The Healer Within, Roger Jahnke. Qigong and Daoism Health and Long Life-The Chinese Way Daoism History and teachings Taoism-Growth of a religion, Isabelle Robinet. Daoism-A short Introduction, James Miller. Daoism and Chinese Culture, Livia Kohn. Daoism Original Tao, Harold Roth Road To Heaven-Encounters with Chinese Hermits, Bill Porter. Handbooks for Daoist Studies, Louis Komjathy Magazine The Empty Vessel, editor, Solala Towler (Daoism and qigong articles)

I used to assume subtle body sex was something both people must be taoists for to take place. I am sure that is one type of it, however, now I am hearing of people/perhaps experiencing such orgasms myself in social situations where the other people have no idea what is going on! (Or do but do subconsciously on some level perhaps expressed in laughter?) One of my girl friends who IS energy/chakra sensitive, and I, had some experiences with this subtle body sex, I beleive, although I could not realize that this was happening at the time as I am new to this concept. All we did was to put our hands on each other's belly's and breath! We played with pulsing the chi, too. It was really fun, feeling the energy from the hand go to expanding and contracting with someone's center of gravity--very energizing and relaxing, perhaps blissful! I suppose it is just the yin yang flow in the "deep center." I used to think subtle body sex might include more gross orgasm with the bringing up of the jing chi, but now I see, perhaps, it is a lot more subtle than that? Or not?

I dont know what exactly you would call this in qigong. I know one time I learned a yoga type qigong move wheer you move your tail based on a dog moving its tail. Moving your tail is a VERY important part of qigong! Something done in warrior wellness very nicely.

I dont know what exactly you would call this in qigong. I know one time I learned a yoga type qigong move wher you move your tail. Moving your tail is a VERY important part of qigong!

No but my friend did! (Although he didnt know!) I was uncomfortable with having subtle body sex with him! Now if only I could break it to him that he has this, um, problem. Just kidding, but back to the point of the thread. What are your experiences with subtle body sex?