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i fux with the advanced a bit..ill have to try that...i just love clubbels, they are the oldest weapon/strength training tool in man kind, and they exist in every culture. because these reasons they have been oping my chi a lot, and i even have mad sexy dreams now...

A few minutes ago I had a strong kundalini shock, like an energy zap that startled me. Right before the shock I was thinking how everyone does not understand spirituality, or gives up on it because they are most happy (supposed to find god) while in orgasm, but dont!--because they dont consciously connect the root all the way up to the crown. Plus, going to church is not exactly orgasmic. So I felt a zap from my root and crown, right after thinking that, it was very startling! Anyone else have such an experience?

Thanks to you guys! I just timed myself doing the 5 tibetans and it took 45 seconds to do each posture once, thats without my beloved meditation/self massage tho. On the other hand, WW takes like 40 minutes to do all the way through!

I have soooo many practices these days, my favorite is still 4 dimensional meridian qi gong. However, I keep getting sidetracked from that so I can try and pick up tips from other forms. But when all of that searching is done I will come back to the 4 Dim. chi kung and keep it real every day.

Yo yo yo, I got that 5 minute miracle up in here. I enjoy doing it occasionaly, as it takes about 1 minute for me to do each posture once, perhaps 25 seconds if I'd like to get a quick recharge. As for Warrior Wellness, I went through each of the 2 levels about 10 times, and lately I havent been doing through at all, but simply doing whatever movements I feel I need form me joints. Did Ron really die? My hands feel so much more chi in them these days due to clubbels, the nature of their weight is such that you have to have to be developing your grip. By the way, I was wonderng what knuckledragger means? And as we are talking about quick, efficient qi gong forms, another one I must mention is the 8 peices of brocades. This mofo is based on the I ching. Sometimes I like to do each of the 8 moves just once or twice, whatever feels right, this is on the level of the 5 minute miracle and warrior wellness I think, because it always make me feel very balanced. 1 other great Qi gong is the 18 hands of luohan, it is almost like warrior wellness in that it does grea thing for the joing only with more tai-chi like movements. luohan.com This is from the founder of marital arts-Bodhidharma! By the way, on the rare occasions when I do do warrior wellness, I will get my entire body moveing joint even if I am saposed to be concentrating on my pinkie, I really exgerate it like its a dance. Keep up! taobums

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I notice din the links page a link to this dudes website. I was wondering why?

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the tao that is spoken is no longer the eternal tao

Yeah these scientists are pretty crazy, they get a lot of money for that though. I do see microprocessor technology rapidly developing, however, and these issues are serious! We cant let evil robots win! Kurzweil is crazy, he takes 250 vitamins every day and drinks 10 cups of green tea!

Yes, that is a nice book. I found the section on emotional connections to the organs very interesting and esoteric, see below. The author, James Macritchie, is the original president of the NQA. This is a very nice book for an intro, the macrocosmic orbit section is interesting too. Although I prefer Li Jun Feng's macrocosmic orbit meditation the most, out of all the ones I have seen/studied. liver-power heart-love spleen-sympathy lungs-purity kidneys-awe

Sounds like fun! I am downloading and will listen when I have some free time to relax.

Well I think building your own might be a good idea...they are way over priced! Perhaps build some and buy some. I found a 20 lb kettle bell on ebay for like $60 including shipping, so that will be my higher weight for now as I delve into the Kettlebell scene with all their qigong like hardstyle workout. Certain tai chi internal masters who we respect a lot might advise against hard work. But like eveything, it has to be balanced, hard and soft, a very delicate balance...My body had done SO much softwork that it now starts to crave hardword to balance it out. By the way, I always think of chi as being in the heart, while jing(earth) in the lower tan tien and shen in the upper centers(universal). Chi can be earth or heaven, but the best chi is definetly the yuan chi, in the heart and kidneys--or something like that. Scott's system restores yuan chi, to some great expent, for sure.

I didnt mean to say we dont use circular movements. That is the ideal! That is infinite! Anything circular! So, perhaps Scott is saying that is chi, circles, of course! And then he says fear. He starts having a dude pimp smack him like 5 times per second, hard and he accepts the force as he calls it, or, "fear" that is a simple term. Something circular, like the Indian summer. Fearlessness=Chi=Heart I think Scott would agree with that? Circular movements are the cornerstone of internal martial arts, so is balance of the hard and soft. Bagua (Pa kua) Zhang and tai chi, and I assume Ching I and I try to do this, too, it feels very good to move like a dragon. This is the champions way, even the feds use it! Its hard to find the time/money but you know what? $200 for those clubs is slightly high. I might try to make my own, it couldnt be too hard at all? Bolt some weight (some kind of brick?) on a peice of metal tube and you have a clubbel! Not as cool looking or safe as the real deal, but it would be do-able if wrapped with some padding, perhaps too, to be safer. I have been practicng with my 10s for 3 days and already I am bored a bit, desiring a higher weight. I like to make progress experiment with them though, and its great! Making up chi kung for use with the thingies--even tried some body flow zone skills holding the tens! Gotta combine them skills! I wonder if one could devise a system to attach a special water sack around the "bat" at my friends call it, have it hold water, to make it heavier or lighter...but then of course it would have to be balanceable... I crave more chi/managing of my fear reactivity, prana as hindus might call it, ruach for you jews, ki, mana, bio energy, tendons, whatever! I feel bad for people who dont have clubbels.

I got my clubbels and now I am hooked on balancing my vast studies of soft chi kung with this harder stuff, kettles too... True, in real life you dont use circular movements. It seems. But everything is circular on a metaphysical level...at least it should be! I find that all this hard style really brings my meditation to a new level, esp. with standing! And of course the body flow routines do wonders for the chi and heaven earth integration, although Sonnon does not call it this in these words. Trunk's comment about working alone: "It just doesn't compare with working with a teacher (who is from an effective lineage) consistently." I would say yeah thats true. A lot of progress can be made, these days with books and videos, but "working with a teacher (who is from an effective lineage) consistently." seems clearly, to be superior, perhaps, I sapose. Now, I'm waiting for the day when we can all do that. But on the other hand, perhaps there is "a teacher (who is from an effective lineage)" in our deep center, who we can learn to access increasingly with exponential growth through life and art, peace studies, on all dimensions--integrating philosophy/science/religion. Now it just occurs to me that tai chi, using a very heavy sword or "saber" perhaps is similar to clubbel training while at the same time integrating the heaven/earth axis explicitly? But who cares? When the "dragons" of these kettleball and clubbel training give us more chi. Or perhaps they dont? Or perhaps its a balance, so we should learn both and integrate. Perhaps we can see a future system which integrates all of this, or is the Western Mind having no need for terms like jing chi shen. Certaintly we have a parallel--the holy trinity--but who can grasp the signifigance of that one? Very few today.

damn that sounds bad, do reiki on it, do chi kung moves with hand in the air...if you know any chi kung it should fix it...??

EVERY religion in the world has a way to control sexual energy. Think about that. The people at the top of the pyramid are not evil, nor are they good. Its what you do with your/this knowledge/lack thereof that makes the difference...we can be living in heaven or hell, or both!

how are ya qualified in them taoist practices?

Keep it nc 17, remember?

not too yin not too yang is the rule make sure also to put the hands in front of each dan tien, not just the middle, although that is the most extatic, most of the time

for the tao? Chia and jerry alan johnsons is good...i been keeping my own list of the names of differernt point on the body...many difffert names for same point an for exmaple, the orbit has been called: human ptential small hheavenly cycle microcosmic orbit hevenly orbit orbit dharma wheel born again proccess and I am sure infinitely others...

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Lord Vishnu With a Clubbel! That is a very interesting concept that Sonnon is not into the heaven/earth integration. Getting into more yoga with Prasara, however, he will have to come around, some time?? I dont know. Clearly he is not a tai chi master but I assumed he WAS a serious student of tai chi at some point in his life, although obviously he did not really embrace the concept of chi! Or did he? I wonder what it will look like when these two schools come together? Or if it is possible at all? It seems to me that they are destined to integrate, you? In what way are they not already integrated? Other than words, of course? Physicaly, I find that body flow is very taxing on the knees! I sapose that is one way! Anyway, comepletely different paradigms we are talking about here, in every way! I used to watch this dude on TV (what I now refer to as the "idiot box" to my friends and family) when I was little...they circular strength train with that club, maybe. Vishnu is cooler though.