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By means of the message that "cannot be described"? Useful, perhaps, but ironic in its existence?

religiously; no pref. if I could control one it would be water of course because firstly I'm cancer, second water is more destructive in large quanitieis, and can do good too, can put out fire, be made into ice and used that way. And I could end world thirst.

Everyone's open to their interpretations. Yours seems ludicrous to me.

garlic makes breath strong nonsensical rambling here all relates to god

Gnarls Barkley Bet that one hit you, huh! Go listen to some of his songs, pay attention to the lyrics. Was nice to realize this, and I like his songs. Some of my personal favourites are: Feng Shui, Run, No Time Soon, and I realized his orientation listening to this song:

The ego is near More talk less feeling is truth Go right now in peace -Chris

Egos... Dying...

I think there is mass confusion in this area over misterminology. I know, if I jump out of the building's 50th floor, I will be smooshed at the ground. I cannot be sure of this though. That is the difference. A useful exercise is to see if you can be sure of the next moment. After you come to better understand what that means, can you be sure of this moment? No words...

I could write books on this, they would be philosophy on spirituality. I believe spirituality is nothingness realized, philosophy is its expression trying to explain it. They do influence each other.

Thanks. Though his suggestion made me wonder, he says our jobs is to make clear what we want, is that counter or reaffirming the beliefs of religion? Also, anyone else who has seen the movie notice they sum it up entirely here?

concepts hinder attachment/identification to/with concepts hinder absolutely

Feel it, as well the rest of your body.

Hi, I am 17 and a virgin now, mainly (I think) because I didn't feel enough attraction towards women to go and meet them, or I've felt too much fear (possibly as a result of all the bullying I've gone through), or I just wasn't confident enough (again, possibly through bullying), but, I notice that the deeper I get into my practice, the more I feel attracted to women, and the more women are beginning to come up to me, and to give me different kinds of looks, and more frequently. I don't act on these events, partially because I'm still afraid/unconfident, but I've noticed that even through these limited interactions, and the few I've had that have included me talking to women I like, have ended up in disappointment, and I've noticed, through my attachment to outcome. The logical side of me that says I should stay away from loving relationships with women in order to save myself the potential heartache and because even during the relationship, I may be too blinded by love or other carnal desires to properly further my practice of non attachment. Now, my questions are, do the feelings, and other situations that arise between you and your partner aid in your ability to remove attachment from phenomena, enhance it, or do nothing? And, through the feelings that you feel for each other, are you able to further go in (of your own will) to the feeling of your inner body (space)? Lastly, are relationships of such nature limiting in any other way? Thank you for your time.

I've realized I'm very impacted in my attraction by their level of what I perceive as physical beauty. This characteristic in and of itself is indicative of attachment.. As for remove attachment to removing attachment, yes, I do not go "must remove identification with thought," but if thoughts do come up, I remind myself to notice the underlyingness from which they came and pay them no mind after they have come.

Hi, I had similar fears as you. Let thoughts escape. Many will come, you will be surprised. But the more you fight, the more comes back to you. Soon you may notice thought patterns you are used to having coming up and its like you're not even the one making it happen - you are the observer. Thank you

Feel your body. Start with your hands.

The fact that Mak Tin Si does not reply only confirms the suspicions placed before him - it does not refute them because he is unwilling to cooperate and prove himself to be what you think he must be to do what he says. That being said, why is his lineage so important, in a religion that focuses on the present, not the past?

Ignorant, arrogant, egotistical, and self-richest people I find the hardest to accept, but that is what you must do. They will learn by your actions, not by your words, which feed them, as they, have you not accepted, try and change them, but your personal acceptance is enough, as it shoos them from your life (they cannot handle it) or transforms them (they see the error of their ways). Thanks.

There is something very powerful and genius i learned from Richard Bandler. Muscles take cues from the skin, so the poeple into deep tissue massage are going the wrong way. Put your hand over your neck (or both hands to cover more area) and tighten the muscles in your hands (dont squeeze youe neck) as you breathe in, then relax the muscles in your hands as you breathe out. Do this a few times and you will be amazed at the results. No more "through pain comes pleasure" massage approach! Also afterwards try giving yourself permission to relax fully, and telling yourself (then doing so) to relax. It works. Just don't fight.

So I was out to buy food at restaurants near where I live, and I saw the Tao Bum again (from this post: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showto...&hl=tao+bum ) So I missed him because I had to order food, but I saw him again on my way back. So I spoke to him, I said "This may sound wierd, I remember you from _so_and_so_ and I'm wondering, why is it when I have a thought, you make those wierd motions? (didnt say wierd I imitated the action)" First he said "i don't know, thats just the way I go with things" then he spun around and backed away during the spin a little and said "For motivation" His voice sounded very clear to me. I looked at him in his eyes then and they looked very clear as well, the exact colour of the sky above (whereas they were darker in the rain when I met him as i remember), but I noticed fear coming up so then I looked away, at this point he asked "Anything else?" I said no, then I said "wait" and said, "by how you do things, it makes me think you know, you feel, something deeper" and I dont remember what I said after that, but he jsut said "i don't know" and left, I said good bye, take care, and good luck. I noticed as I turned away and left that the house in front of which we met had a statue of Buddha in front of it. I had a dream about a week back where this ivory-coloured eerie (yet somehow comforting) figure with circular eyes, mouth, and a fairly round body, and he may have had white-ivory clothes with red accents, sat beside me in class, and said "the buddha is busy in his office now, he will see you soon" I also looked at him at sort of the same way I looked at this man, then the figure disappeared from my dream. No individual thing has ever disappeared from my dreams as far as I can remember, just entire scene changes. It was a first, and interesting both in the form it took and the content. On my way home I was thinking and started peeling back concepts, as that seems to be what he was getting at, and where I am in my practice, and then I noticed a feeling in my chest coming through. Like what happened in this post: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=9916 With the realization of this new energy, my shoulders, groin, and thighs are now sore... Feeling in my body seems to be exposing pains that I can only assume have been there and unfelt from the past.. If you guys have any insight to shed on any of these things please feel free to do so.

So I've been trying to clear my mind of the "unnecessary chatter" for a while now, and more recently I got into GFM, as some of you will definitely remember from my recent threads. I'd like to post this update on my practices and see your feedback on what I'm experiencing. My current progres with the "mental noise" is I'm further and further overcoming it and removing my attachment from it. I notice I am feeling more, all the time. A lot of it is emotions. When thoughts come up, I can often sense their underling emotional vibration (or I am making one up for them that is not their true one) and notice the sadness or feelings of humiliation, or fear, behind most of my thoughts. The happy ones I notice empty happiness in them, and so predominantly, the feelings that come with my thoughts are negative. When I feel these feelings, I "hold onto them," and try to feel them out. I fear this may be partly my desire to feel anything, and my true fear in regards to this is that "holding onto" the feelings in the immediate time after they arise and "feeling through" them may be causing me more harm than if I simply let them pass. - I would especially like to hear feedback on this matter. Sometimes, I feel things seemingly without thoughts immediately provoking them. There are some okay sensations, like feeling some tingling and like I'm feeling the inside of, but only the outer bit of, my legs, arms. (like as if my arms/legs were cylindrical oranges, and I could feel only the skin) Sometimes in those respects I don't know what it is I'm feeling (skin, or depth, or what have you), it just seems to be a general feeling in that area, like right now as I write this in my calves. Then, there are the feelings that are more emotional. Current ones I am facing (not at this moment, but in the very recent past they have been very active) is a fear of death, fear of being hurt, and sadness. I notice myself letting out a little smile whenever I see people, though it is not for all people. It is mainly when I see males, and that has created a conscious fear as to my potential sexuality, as I am a virgin, however I think I am attracted to women (7 years of masturbating to them was my first sign, though I have given up that act and am doing my best to continue as such), but I hope it is simply my supressed feelings of perhaps fear of them, that is causing me to mostly only smile at men my age. In regards to the GFM meditation I recently undertook, compared to JJ Semple's website, I am making quick "progress", having "felt my breath and reversed it" 2 days into it, and felt the feelings in my spine another 2 days after. During my progress those feelings in my spine have not only gone upwards like in JJ's experience, but also downwards, fluctuating at different times. Sometimes I did not feel them at all, my guess is I was too caught up in mindstuffs. To which I previously referred to, at one point, the feelings stopped 3/4 of the way up my spine and my upper 1/4 of my back got very sore, and so I made a topic here in regards to that matter. The feelings have since been able to go up past that area (in fact only today) and I now feel it just below that part of your skull that jutts out at the back (about eye level). I notice if I simply think of a spot along my spine, the feeling will go there, so it is easily manipulated, but I try my best not to do this, and simply watch where the feeling goes without paying attention to it, rather focussing on my breathing, but it is hard not to pay attention to it. At any point the feeling barely stays in one place, if so, maybe only for a few minutes at most, before disappearing temporarily or moving to another location. I am also "influenced" more often to keep my back straight. It is not only while meditating I feel this, but often during my daily routines. - This is another area I would particularly like to hear feedback on. Thank you for reading, it was good to express these things, and I hope to see some useful and perhaps insightful responses.

I met what seemed to be an interesting phenomena today. In class, these 2 girls who sat near me were making fun of me. Nearly everything I said, they would laugh at. I have heard enough laughs in my life to know for certain they were laughing at me, I was not making jokes. Of this I am certain. This made me feel not so good. At first I noticed I was trying to hide the feelings (you see, I have been emotionally bullied in the past, and supressed those feelings), but I gave my self permission to feel them "Its okay to feel this way". I then moved my attention to my breath, as is my meditation, and began breathing in and out while I felt through this fairly powerful bad feeling. Within a minute or so, I evened out fairly well, though there was still the "aftertaste" of the emotions I had just felt. I noticed another minute or so after that, both those girls, within 10 seconds of eachother, slouched back and got really low in their seat, or leaned forward and put their head on their hands, which rested on the table. (one did one, the other did the other). They stayed that way almost still for the rest of the class. It seemed to me that they "got a taste" of what they made me feel, when it was removed from my body. It was like they were completely drained, turned low energy, or got a taste of the bad feelings I was feeling. I posited what happened as karma for their actions just before, yet I am very interested in how it seemed to come from the state being cleared (mostly) from my body. I am a male, by the way. Could this be a coincidence, or an example of something more powerful, such as that energy in me being transferred onto them? I know when you feel good, girls especially can feel it too, but when you feel bad, can the same effects be felt? Does anyone else have similar stories, or an explanation for what may have happened? Thank you.

You must first understand the reason why you are counting your breaths. Is it to replace your mental noise - self-talk? Certain breathing methods like 1 count in, 4 counts hold, 2 counts out, have been proven to target thing ssuch as the lymphatic system (in this particular example), but they are ratios, not exact time periods. I believe the GFM thing you are speaking of is a banal expression of th emind in order to stop mental noise. Personal practices have shown me that it is enough simply to concentrate on the breath, but that may not be the case for you. I do not think GFM has any scientific reserach into 4 seconds in/out being some sort of perfect breathing time. And I would much rather not be thinking "1234" all my day long.

Me love you all time..

I feel mind activity where my brain is. Mind activity can be measured by EEG and similar scans and has been proven to "come from" the brain area. While in religous perspective it still "comes from nothing" the physical space where its processes cause energy is in the brain area. I feel the effects of what I can only assume to be past brain activity in all parts of my body (though not always all at once), and I feel what I can only assume to be the energy of brain activity sometimes flow through all parts of my body (again though not always at once). I also sometimes see the product of mind activity in forms of hallucinations. And I see the product of mind activity whether my eyes are closed are not, through the electrical signals the various parts of my eyes transmit through my brain. That's "where" it is for me. Do not forget that although god is everything and nothing, it is still manifested in ways that equate to our experience.