Wun Yuen Gong

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Spectrum u are just an ass! Ok, so the Kunlun is a more Yin Qi? Interesting....

Hi Edward, Thanks for posting, i have a question are you still studying Mo Pai and if you are what level are you now? Also training under Wang Liping are you learning the same stuff as David or something completely different? Does Wang Li Pings method differ to Mo Pai regarding filling the Dan Tian and compressing it? Sorry for the questions you are a very lucky man and i wish you all the luck in your training.... WYG

Yes in Sydney if you can?

Thanks Scotty, Ive been thinking about it for along time i bought the book about 8 months or more ago i did sit and try the level 1 for about 10-15 mins and the legs was shaking and that all i didnt go deep into it was just an experiment. Im not after people to convince me persa just trying to gather as much information as i can to come to my own decision. Ive always been like this even with kung fu i do my research! I also gotta look into how much time i have extra to apply it as i have alot on my plate right now, i do like everyones results its very intriguing and sooner or later will have to try for myself. Anyway hope that helps you understand where im at and why the questions! WYG

www.innerselfcenter.com is max and his practices but apparently trhere is bad blood between them!! Max says on the Thunder Breathing DVD its the highest apart Phurba practice that he will not teach out at that time. I dont know if Kunlun is higher then his Thunder Breathing practice maybe Mantra 68 can tell you maybe ask and please let us know if u find out. Its very nice u visualize the Thunder god as u and the vajra in the heart eminating light its a quick breakdown, u best to watch it! WYG

Thinking about it alot since so many people feel they getting results and something different from it! Would like to give it a shot as long as it doesnt effect my own practice!? So does one need to have red phoenix and the like to attain the Golden Dragon Body? Also has anyone seen these people attain it during there practice, like see them turn into light, who was there to see it? WYG

Hi Kunlun people, So Golden Dragon Body comes from levels 1,2,3 of the book or does one need to do Red Phoniex 1,2,3 and other stuff. This is where im getting mixed up reading different threads!!! Regards WYG

Well MAX says he has turned into light many times and died and come back in his Thunder Breathing DVD and there is pictures on his website of his hands as light if that truth?! If Max is at that levels where he can turn into light im sure he can do many of the things John Chang can do right???? David Shen is teaching Dao Yin type exercises for 5000 euros, that is quite expansive for those exercises but if the students are happy then so be it. If Mo Pai level 1 is just a meditation and level 2 is compressing the chi with simple exercises why do all the Dao Yin stuff when 2 simple exercises will produce better results. One can do stretching and health exercises by walking, weights etc? WYG

People that have these abilities are closer to the Dao then what we are they connect to its power and can use it at will!

Hi Jeff, The ball posture is in most arts, both my arts Daoist and shaolin system is based on it and the ball is moved and played with. Do you have this guys DVD? WYG

Hundun, I do realise he wrote the book but lately there is a lot of talk on Red phoniex and other practices and i was thinking that its part of Kunlun as its taught with Kunlun by the sounds of it! In the book i cant recall is it talks of Kunlun medicine or not dont quote me on that but see all new information keeps coming out with Kun lun so im asking what is the full Kunlun system just what is in the book? WYG

Hundun, YES you are an ASS!! I dont think all my answers in the past was answered my friend and HONESTLY, but lets not go down that track again. My questions to MANTRA was sincere so please piss off with your attude i was not having a go at max or Kunlun in my post. I have alot on my plate with my practice but am open minded enough to try other stuff "WHEN IT SUITES ME"! I like to gather as much information on the person and pratice that i would try rather then take someones word from a book or a guy on a forum with a months practice. I dont care about what others are getting with there results i do for myself! Maybe some stuff was answered by others not Mantra before plus how many new Kunlun topics pop up with the same questions and post of there practice on level 1,2 i can name a few people that love posting Kunlun topics that have the same questions. Anyhow my question to mantra was no concern of yours im looking for some answers to help me decide in a things on my path that is all. Will i do Kunlun maybe, im hoping to give it a try and see where it takes me AFTER i get some feedback!!! Thanks for destroying my thread!! LOL WYG Oh by the way, i didnt know Red Phoenix wasnt part of Kunlun same goes for 5 elements! And I dont understand why you would add all the others to it if Kunlun was so powerful i mean why have so much more into it if it brings enlightenment??? These are my concerns!!!

Dao Shen, I was only thinking about your pure heart meditation last night at work as my practice is stillness and dan tian meditation. I have a question for you does your teachers have any special abilities from there method? Also what else comes after the information you have released on Pure Heart? WYG

Hi Mantra, Unfortunately i havent REALLY tried it ive sat and help the posture feet raised and i did get the legs to start trembling. I did it for around 5 mins though! I have so much to practice at present i dont know if adding something like Kunlun will hurt my other practices plus how much time i have already! I dont know if its the legs trembling for keeping the heels raised and under some tension it opens up the leg channel or its the trembling through just tension of the holding the legs in that position. To be honest i would love to give it a go i will do at some point. I guess i rather learn it and feel it from Max when he come to Oz and experience it 1st hand. Can you tell me what is the full Kunlun system that Max teaches out? So far in the book its 3 levels but ive been reading people are adding Red Phoenix, 5 element standing are they both from different arts Mao Shan, etc or all under Kunlun Pai? I guess i would like to know what is the Kunlun system that is what im asking? Is it safe to do with other Meditation practices such as Stillness/emptness, Dan Tian, and taiji type moving meditations? WYG

How does Chunli yin yang water work?

So what have your heard?

Ok, so the Xingshen gong is a Dao yin type execises of stretching and opening the joints? There is another Qi Kung system in China called Ru Yi Qi Kung (spelling) that looks very similar to that! Does this set that David teaches give abilities or more a exercise? WYG

Its not playing on my computer! GRRR LOL The gods dont think im ready for information???

Thanks, so much for secrets!!

So this other website also has the same information as David, im kinda lost?

Someone going to youtube it?

Oh Ok! So there is no demo of the practice just chatting?!

So any comments on the practice that David is teaching, i havent watched it yet its downloading at present? What does it resemble and does it seem to be a powerful practice or not? comments?? WYG

That would be absolutely horrible! Godbless the dead....