Wun Yuen Gong

Jonah, Thankyou for your honest answer much appreciated! WYG

Okay, u guessed!! ????

Hi Jonah, I see i read that website ages ago on Primordial Chi Kung from Robbo and was wondering what it looked like so its the same as Mr Winns?! Interesting how it would bring enlightenment and if so what does one feel from this enlightenment? When i read about enlightenment i see and read things like Lei Shan Dao, Mo Pai which has 72 levels that attains abilties and so forth. But Mr Winn is saying this form alone will bring possibly what the 72 levels would bring of the Mo Pai and Lei Shan Dao. Of course thereare other methods those 2 seem to be the deepest with its levels and daoist philosphy thats why im asking! So does that mean everything else that Mr Winn teachers is not as higher level due to the Taiji/wuji gong is the enlightenment form. You wont need One Clouds 7 formulas if u have this Wuji form? Maybe it brings a different enlightenment? WYG No Cause, YES, that is me i started a thread on Reverse breathing recently asking questions which i asked here ages ago but i think i am doing the same as the rest. Why you ask? WYG

LOL Matt! Jonah, Many forms of Primordial Chi Gong, many like to use Wun Yuen "Hun Yuan"! I dont know about these guys but my Primordial Chaos system has 64 sections over 700 movements passed down from Lao Tzu's disciples. I wonder if Chang Seng Feng learnt any Primoridal Chi Kung from my lineage from Lao Tzu's lineage? hmmm Interesting im sure Chang Seng Feng would have worked on Lao Tzus' Tao Te Ching as part of his studies?! WYG

He has even bad mouths Mantak Chia i believe! Any movement done in the state of "Soong" i guess can feel good and give you something even Tensegrity people was going and were getting results. LOL Enlightment can come from just sitting "still doing nothing" meditation why do all the standing moving meditations when just sitting still and breathing. I think his claims are alittle over the top to be honest or unless he has been enlightened himself from it already?! WYG

I was sent this from a friend as my system is called "Primordial Chaos One Chi Palm" and i wasnt impressed with Mr Winns structure or movements as well the form is very basic and i guess for older folk it might help but i agree with you i didnt really think it was that great a form. regards WYG

Matt, Why u selling it are you not happy with the practice or any other reason? WYG

Hello Has anyone had experience on Mer Ka Ba spherical breathing and visualization Meditation, seems to be similar to a meditation i teach and practice? http://www.execonn.com/matt/Docs/MerkabaMed.htm WYG

Money??? When is the Australian KunLun Tour? WYG

Is there any clips of this guy?

Yeah, i was also thinking this the other day! Great question!!

Hi Xienkula, When you learnt tensegity does it teach you about magic or sorcery or how does one become a sorcerer from Tensegity? WYG P.S If its a personal question you could PM me?!

I just watched the Cry of the snow lion about Tibet and how china is in control of these people, it saddens me that they are treated like this. I have a question for anyone, what do the chinese religious buddhist and daoist think of all this and what they truely think of Tibetans? I mean do all Chinese hate Tibetans???? Im just alittle pissed off about all this sorry to bring this up! WYG

This clip "strikes" me alittle different!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDk2gXI8QxQ...feature=related LOL

Thanks Cam, i would like to know how Mantaks seminar would be like and the topic at hand! Whats Max's seminar on now still Kunlun 1? WYG

Drew, Can you make a youtube clip of you doing all this? WYG

Interesting site ive been reading the Gnostic Gospels and there is alot of information that is in Daoist philosphy and theories but worded differently and expressed differently. cheers

http://researchersoftruth.org/TheTeaching.htm Anyone know about this guy?

Vortex, do you know what the other small balls are hanging around the colar of the lions neck? regards WYG

Vortex, The flower of life seminar sounded good did they give any explaination to the chinese stone lions holding the ball that is the same pattern of the flower of life or any chinese connection? If you like to start a thread on the Flower of Life seminar would be awesome if not its kool! Was there anything else on meditation and Flower of Life? regard WYG

Real skill works on all people not just students! WYG

There was a TTB member that was very active and high level cultivator that went to Max's kunlun workshop and paid to do a private and came here and said Max is not a high level master at all and dodged all this guys questions. The guy asked for his money back!!! I cant wait to meet him when he comes to Oz i have some interesting questions to ask him myself! WYG

Yo, that post was awesome and thankyou made alot of sense for many things for me!!!

Good points Ian, i also like to add that if one is in constant pain of full or even half lotus how does one reach stillness/emptyness or even consider being relaxed? I know that some pain can lead people into a certain bliss state but is it the same state of bliss to something like Kunlun or other Dao, buddhist systems? Ive got pics of Daoist gods seated on chairs not in lotus positions. I have seen many Buddhist pics of lotus though!!! Does pain mean you are getting better results??? hmmm WYG

LOL Thanks Rain!! There must be something that comes good from half lotus or what about seated on a chair? WYG