Wun Yuen Gong

Good thread but everyone talking about Enlightenment when no one in this forum has been Enlightened so how can we describe it?

Hey Joe, Maybe you could start a new Topic on how the Big Bang and Taoist theories combine, like the Tao gave birth to the one etc etc? I think we really need a deep discussion on the beginning /creation in a Taoist point of view and broken it right down into plasma, and all the information that we have been watching on these clips. I simply am not that intelligent but am eager to understand and learn so if drew, yourself, mwight and others as these guys are very deep could start a new thread on the creation and how it all fits into Taoist philosphy and theoires? Would be great to read and collect information on this?! Regards WYG

Chanwu, Where can i see this "what the bleep - down the rabbit hole"? cheers WYG

Hello, Have you tried Traditional Chinese Medicine and Accupuncture yet? That together with Qi Kung could fix it! WYG

Drew, Ive posted before i drum the I ching -have you tried this? Yin Yang beats is the same as what you are talking about? WYG

This is not an attack just a question on what is written in the book. Chris aka MANTRA says that he was learning Kunlun standing static postures in the park and so was the others as they all began to stick to fences and do weird stuff but in the book it says that you shouldnt do Kunlun standing as you may faint and fall and hurt yourself??? Im confused how and why he learnt something different to what the book says or is there more Kunlun exercises apart what is in the book? I thought that Kunlun has 3 exercises for spontanious bliss i do remember that 5 elements was added to Kunlun or is 5 elements part of Kunlun anyway and not a seperate system? Just was reading the book at work and came across it and thought i would bring it up!! WYG

Hi All, Im looking at restructuring my different systems syllubus and was looking at ways to bring in different people that are looking for different experiences and there own specialties. In the past i have been teaching in the order i learned but i was thinking of offering them suited for peoples needs. 1- I have external kung fu forms (many) as well weapons, 2 man and weapons 2- Different Iron Palm systems, internal and external, burning palms, vibrating and cotton palms - these all include meditation and moving chi kung sets. 3- Internal forms and meditation practices. 4 - Healing systems and herbs (dit dar), massage etc Plus alot more to write down.... So do you think advertising and allowing people to pick and choose certain things is better then letting people work for over 10yrs to aquire the knowledge is better. I think its time to change and allow people to experience and attain what they would of course with understanding the systems foundations!! Any coments would be appreciative! WYG

Has anyone read this book or know of the author? Any comments? http://cgi.ebay.com/Taoist-Yoga-Alchemy-an...8QQcmdZViewItem

oH OK! Thanks

Thanks Joe, when you are in bliss state is it subconscious or conscious state when you are doing these weird things. As at anytime you can close down so im thinking maybe its a conscious state and you just following the energy rather the energy guiding you in a sub conscious state>? cheers WYG

Thanks for the confirmation Joe i was just reading the book on a break at work and stumbled across it and thought i would ask the question here. Mikaelz, As above! I havent met Max (Yet) love to one day and when i do i will be able to sense or feel his energy. Is he enlightened maybe -maybe not i dont know maybe true enlightened people are not found on this earthly plane? BTW i dont practice Kunlun although his postures are found in most internal nei gung or chi kung systems. WYG Joe, How does one get stuck on fences if they are in seated kunlun level 1 posture unless they are standing? Does the Kunlun practice make you stand up and run , jump or do u automatically start from seated and then unconsciously start doing weird things? Who else has had these experiences of getting stuck to fences or being jolted through the air 8 feet like Mantra and his brothers. I know some of you doing it get vibrations and swaying anything else? WYG

Hello, How did you come to understand the I Ching the way you did, i think that is very clever actually? Is weird that nobody else has thought of this unless they have but i havent heard of it!!! Thankyou for sharing your book my friend! WYG

Hi Ati, I quickly looked at it a few days ago and i liked the way it shows how symbols can be made from the lines, i really need to sit and read it properly to better understand it. Very fasinating indeed!!! WYG

Imagine living in that house or temple on the top of the cliff you have no other choice to be one with Tao as you wake up to that beautiful scenery and at night with the moon and stars?! That was absolutely Beautiful how great this world is!!! Is there any pics of WuTai Shan like this?

I would love a copy of this as im trying to collect many types of energy work?! If its avaliable i would also like to buy a copy? regards WYG

Ok, yeah i can see how the rain on the cd would get you into the that trance state. Thanks

Hey, Sounds like a blast mate, did you intentively envision the rain and water or did it just come? I do different types of visualization using thunder and lighting (storms), water, wind it does feel like you have been cleansed and rejuvenated! Have you used Hemi-sync? WYG

Could be worse you could die trying to combine Yin Yang Gong according to Mo Pai tradition! I know someone that has bad effects from Kunlun Bliss! I know someone that has had bad effects from running, swimming, walking, hard kung fu, boxing - i say just go slowly and pay attention to thoughts and body, dont force anything or try too hard with intention just slight intention. I do know a few people that has had great results from Mantaks information especially healing sounds, inner smile. These 2 people unrelated has said that just those 2 exercises are all that one needs to be happy and healthy oh and of course Iron Shirt. WYG

Hi Todd, Dreams maybe not so but when i truely think about my Mind in a sense of what Lin has just mentioned im far from all that. There is times i get pissed off and think things i shouldnt, do things i shouldnt, say things i shouldnt etc. When it comes to my kung fu and fighting my mindset is very strong but complete opposite to pure heart. So i can only imagine what it would feel like to be free from all and attain Pure Heart like Buddha! Lin, Thanks brother, hope to see u on later for a Chat! WYG

Thanks Lin, i understand your last comment but what i am trying to understand is what is wisdom on what level are we talking. What type of wisdom? WYG

I dont think ill ever have a pure heart in this life Todd, i mean look at the world we live in and our lives at present , sorry i dont mean to be judging anyone but myself i am very far from perfect and im sure many the same. So what does it feel like to have a pure heart, you know what im saying? It must feel awesome to be completely pure and if you do get it does one get enlightened or move to the next realms? cheers WYG

Hey Lin What does it feel like to have a pure heart, does it talk about this in Buddhism i think it does but what does one feel or know when they have pure heart, is that what they call Wisdom in buddhist terms or enlightenment? Ive heard that we are all Illusions if we are Illusions are we just making all this religion and methods up to make us feel we have reached enlightenment or is it real? LOL What is real??? NOW IM CONFUSED!!!! P.S Its 5am nightshift is killing me WYG

Pero, Cause i like to know! WYG

Hi Brother Lin, Love your post man, please post some more stories of buddhist and daoist how they fought or disagreed? cheers WYG

SFJane, You are right, if you spend all this time to get the juice as you say, then people like Max, John Chang and others that claim they can levitate, light fires and what not should be proven to the world to show that all humans have a gift if they choose to practice it. At the same time get the million dollars off Randy and if its against there spiritial beliefs do it and give the money to the homeless, or sick and needed! WYG