Wun Yuen Gong

Why doesnt max have kunlun clips for 10 bucks on his site so people that donate can get something from it?

Cameron, I am not saying kunlun isnt proper practices just the claims Max makes gets me thinking! Dont worry people have rubbished my art and myself over the years but i just keep doing.... I think you must feel that im attacking when im not im just pointing out that Kunlun is not the be all and end all and since this is an open forum i will share some insight to why it is just like other practices and no different except Max claims levitation, moving people without touch (only on his students), maoshan magic, creating energies(tibetan name i cant remember), studying from people that when the truth was told was now Jenny Lamb and not a high lama or taoist in Kunlun Mountains. I guess to shut me the hell up get MAX to make a clip of himself levitating and becoming light and i will Kowtow and give up all my practices to study Kunlun. Even donate money to help promote it!!!! Thats my word... WYG

I dont doubt it helps just like all meditation practice done right with bring in universal chi and heal the body. For instance i cured a young chinese boy from cancer with my healing energy a few years ago. He was given 3 weeks to live and after i did some energy healing on him his body went into a high fever and his body started fighting the cancer. I did a few sessions on him and he went back to get some Chemo but they tested the boy and found no trace of the cancer cells. His health came back and went back to school 3-4 months later! Am i a Lama? Not likely..... Anyway the moral of the story is proper cultivation can produce amazing results doesnt have to come in nicely presented packages or wesbites. The most simple is the most profound....

I love your prayer wheel! I studied mindfulness and insight meditation from Ven Pannyavaro back in the early 90's that site he created.

UU ca use a bundle of Bamboo chopsticks tapped up at the end this is cheap and easy and the vibration gets to the bone marrow.

Ive missed the website for starjumper can someone please post it?

I think you cant stop people from making PDF files or sharing this information verbally or physcially this is the whole problem with coming out into the public with your information it will get bastardize unfortunately! Maybe Max should at seminars hold transmission and have a private 1 hr or whatever for those that wish to teach Kunlun under his tree? WYG

Hey Micheal, Thanks i know what you mean, i dont think its a bad practice persa but i think there is a few things that arent been told as TRUTH. But as long as you are all happy with the practice that is all that matters really! I have alot to practice myself and i am very happy with what i have, Kunlun level 1 without the heels raised is just one hand posture in my system. Although we do heels off the ground whilst standing in meditation which gets a tremendously alot of heat and vibration and this helps your light skills, springy leg tendon power that is part and parcel of our martial and health side. I dont doubt that Kunlun practice gets you to what it says i just know a few things i wont talk about online or get into another sh!t slinging match about MAX or his training past or systems. I watched his clips he comes of as a guy with alot of information and seems to be very nice and i will love to see him when he comes to Oz because inside of me im hoping he is what he says he is and this is enough for me to meet a person that says what he can do on his website. If he this i want to meet such a person in this short life i will live! Have you tried full lotus with the ball posture rather then heels raised? Mantra is a respectable follower and student and does share his side of the information he understands of Kunlun and Max. I wish him the best with that! I would be interested in how many have reached Levitation from level 1 or how long it takes to achieve this? WYG

Sean, Yes, ive been very quiet and respectful and still am i like this forum alot and you give everyone a fair go! The posture i believe if one can look back through all the threads will see that the level 1 has been discussed in full detail. The heels raised, what hands should and shouldnt be on top, different mudras added, hands in lap etc. So i thought as a non Kunlun practitioner and to share some light on the matter to the new guy (starjumper) that he can understand what is taught so he can express his own views. There is nothing new about what is taught in kunlun just good timing and good marketing at the right time! His book is on visualization, letting go, breath retention, more visualization all these are found in Nei Kung so nothing new to really discuss. IMHO! Thanks WYG

Thats right if you are happy with your practice then words dont mean anything, but there are many cultivators that have been around for a long time such as myself and i guess starjumper, Lin and others that dont always agree with the new in thing so to speak. I myself will visit Max still and be very respectful just incase there is 1% he is the real deal! I hold no grudges im happy to meet advance cultivators in my short life, so its all good. Even 1% i still like to see what he has to offer people this is what i do. Holding a ball is found in many systems of Hei Gung, chi kung, nei kung there are systems such as one i practice that is based on it with many variations. Shaking comes in the beginning cause energy needs to find a path and when it opens it will all subside to mini vibration. I like the fact that star jumper is speaking his mind in ways i was when i first came here and saw all the threads. Each to there own! WYG

Any posture and natural is best, relax and let go, emptyness!

Star Jumper, I will tell you the Kunlun practise cause i am not a Kunlun player! Sit on a chair hold the ball right hand on top near the throat chakra and the left hand at the dan tian. Lift your heels of the ground and wait till things happen, your legs may shake be it from the tension and nervous system or what they call Kunlun energy lol (chi). That was level 1! If nothing is happening like getting stuck on a tennis court or doing weird yoga movements, laughing, crying, yelling, jumping about screaming orgasms, then start to rotate the abdomin clockwise i think he says and this will start it off for you??? Now, as i get my popcorn!

Follow your heart, XingYi has alot of internal practice that you can find in most arts!

Buy the book, it has talismans, chants, mudras, bagua battlefield arrangements etc. I only buy the books as a collection i dont try any of the information but i do like to read up on this stuff.

Have you read "A still forest Pool"?

I have the Taoist Master Chuang book for a few years now and was actually reading it again at work how ironic! Anyhow its very interesting and you can see why its very deep in religous Taoism his Thunder Magic is!!!

Immortal, Care to share your experiences of your Kunlun? Congratz on finding your path, remember the "Most Simple is the MOST PROFOUND"!

Hello All, I wonder if anyone has done this Lama's Tibetan Yoga and dream practice? Also maybe Max or Lama Surya Das may know each other or run into each other during there studies in Tibet? This guy seems to have been around for a while teaching Vajrayana and his Tibetan Yoga, is he the real deal seems to be very knowledgable!? WYG http://www.surya.org/ http://www.dzogchen.org/index.htm http://www.dzogchen.org/library/bios/dzogchen-lineage.htm

Thanks Adam, I was ordained as a Taoist under the Ching Chung sect in 1992 but have been researching Vajrayana Tibetan buddhism for a while now too. The reseaon is all my internal arts connect to Taoism, Buddism so im going back to the root or source to look into what the founders was trying to teach or what they understood. The Tibetan Energy Yoga has elements to my arts and Thunder paths or arts. So this is my intrest! Be well... WYG

Is Lama Surya's Energy Yoga a real system or is it something he created? I watched it a few times and kinda think its pretty neat and i can see how it allows one to let go and release negative energy in the body and open up new fresh energy. Does anyone have any other history on his Tibetan Energy Yoga as i would like to learn more about it? regards WYG

Oolong, I have the Taoist Sorcery book PDF for long time what do u think of it? Ive aslo been looking into the daoist magic of dr alan a while back but cost the same price for postage to send to Oz. regards WYG

Hello, I teach Iron Palm methods and i asked if Max's Tibetan Burning Palm was like mine and i have Daosit Burning Palm, Vibrating Palm, Cotton Palm, Primordial One Chi Palm systems. Ive been selling the Healing and conditioning liniment (dit dar jow) for many years (worldwide) with great effects. Each system of iron palm is for fighting and healing as well comes with high level abilities. Leaving palm prints is a very basic level our higher levels is to leave a mark on the person without physically touching them but this comes with much meditation and chi kung practice and if you leave the mark on the person without touching they simply will die and no treatment can cure it. Each level has a conditioning exercice with meds, herbs, massage, healing methods and levels of force. Max has 9 levels and so do i so im interested where he got his tibetan series from?! Each system is unique in the way its used, shattering and vibrating peoples energy breaking down there life force. These type of systems are usually kept for close door students beware of people teaching methods that have no idea about or asking to apply there slaps or projecting there energy on or to you as if you are not much of a cultivator can destroy or weaken your energy. This is also part of Daoist black magic or Tibetan also! WYG

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid...179343156674979 check this out, has some very nice breakdowns for people that dont know much about meditation practices! I wouldnt mind making a Pyramid to sit under in my backyard! enjoy WYG

Your welcome mate, did the same for me just made me realise how off track you get with reading what others are doing when you know what you were already was doing is correct. Well especially for me!

I agree, that stance is not what i do either, my horse stance is from southern Hakka (Bak Mei)! Although there are many stances single leg, hanging horse, front stance, feet together, any stance can be used for jaam jong as long as you stick to the main principles of centering. WYG