Wun Yuen Gong

Mal, Not good enough to much chit chat and he is talking common knowledge with any research and you can talk as good as Max! Has anyone yet attained Levitation from Kunlun level 1?

Mantis, Do you or have you done the Vajrasattva visualization?

Mal, Define HELP as he in his clip is making people fly through the air without touch 20-30 meters away? Yes, when it comes to healing open minded is very important but when they cannot do it on others like he does oon his clip then the questions are raised. This is why i want to go to his seminar see if he can do what he can do to others on me. That wouldnt be disrespectful to ask as his claims are very big, enlightenment, bliss , 100yrs in 1 hr, he is a buddhisattva etc. So i guess he can prove it to me with a movement of his hand or mind ill be standing there and if does ill bow down and respect him for what he is!! In private would be better i wouldnt do this infront of his students or disrespect him in any way i just want to be a believer in this stuff and so far i havent witnessed such feats. WYG

Similar to MAX Lama thunderbolt can only do his chi powers on his students?

Great information and i didnt mean to start any arguements! Does anyone have any pictures or clips of the true Kundalini exercises for the body? cool thread lots of info keep it up, i think debates are all good and makes people express there feelings as long as its all in good chi!

I know i dont get suckered into things or brainwashed as easy as SOME?!

Ok, thanks ill check it out!

Does anyone know her background on systems she learnt?

MayBbe Max and this LADIE should have a death match for the supreme being? lol WOW, so many new bodhisattvas coming out of the closet did i tell you that i am Jesus reicarnated? lmao This is starting to get very tiring reading all these super path to re-enlightenments????????

Hi Leo, Thanks for your honest answer and please excuss me if you have repeated this before but what other practices have you trained? Sometimes it taks one thing to click and if Kunlun has done this for you then that is great its a shame its taken you this long and no other practice got you there like Kunlun has for you. Maybe now that you understand more about energy or bliss energy you can switch it on with your other practices which may lead you to even higher levels again, just a thought! best wishes WYG

Leo, You have done practice since you was 12 and never felt any bliss or energy? hmm WYG

In the book of Bliss Max says to spirial the body to start the bliss if it isnt working does anyone have any other information why this make it work? I think Kundalini has some exercises like this? Thanks in advance! WYG

Or could bring the energy inwards and counter clockwise makes it go out!

Is there a difference between clockwise or anti-clockwise rotations?

Win, Thanks for the Tip, one day i will try!!!

Could be unblocking the Gallbladder meridian as in healing!? Maybe when you get these sensations try and be aware of anything happening in the organs or anything related? Just a thought....

Thanks, will go to the seminar when they come to Australia!

No problem asking for donations, i wish i had the courage to do so! I think the way your website is designed with wording, pics and stuff is very smart and you will get alot of people interested in your products. Should just do more books and i was thinking and being totally serious here is a DVD of Kunlun all levels and attainments. Max breaking it right down like he would a seminar cause people that dont make his seminar can learn his stuff using a book and dvds, have a questions and answers etc. Other practises that can be added too or used in conjuction with kunlun? WYG

LOL Mantra Max's website already has a Donation section i wish i thought of that years ago!!! If anything your marketing is probably the best ive seen for a while.

I CONCUR!

If that is the case Joeblast then the water method visualization med would be part of level 1 rather then a closing which is only the let the body settle and the fire will still keep going regardless even days after as you finished just like Cameron for example coulldnt even sleep for a week!!! Im sure there is good kunlun cultivators from Max's group just seems that on this forum i see very little with the correct knowledge and have jumped on the Bliss bandwagon wanting something higher or the highest path without learning about energy. Kunlun may bring that bliss straight away i dont know but when a person with no decent meditation background buys a book and fries his body of bliss fire i guess i start seeing alarm bells. Sorry its my nature to speak from my heart about such concerns as ive seen things go out of shape for people and there families. be well WYG

That is telling you that you are running the fire and the body needs fuel to burn! Becareful!!!!

Yue, I like your attitude bro, so far your the only one to of brought up this apart from me which people of Kunlun dont like to answer. But your correct if you cant visualise the basic med why start the level posture? Means your mind isnt cultivated enough to even consider beginning the practices. For instance most internal systems start with stillness / emptyness which usually takes months and month some even years to devlop there no mind or stopping the chatter monkey mind and taming the horse. Even Wang Li Ping did months of seating in dark room, sitting inside the earth (holes) before he was taught anything from his teachers. This is why i dont like how most of the Kunlun practitioners on this form think they are great cultivators (i can see them now getting angry), but im being totally honest here and i feel that they havent even mastered the basics and jumped straight into the fire looking for BLISS which is HEAT/FIRE. Max book says to stay on level 1 for at least 6 months before level2 which are both still running the fire for over 1-2 yrs before starting the waterfall training. So that being said his 1-2 levels are Fire untill you start the waterfall. Could the damage be done for some by the time level 3 comes? Im not just picking on Kunlun but most cultivators that train without the most important rule of the mind. This is why i understand and like Lin on this forum he talks of Moral way of training. He understands why and what im talking about if he reads this. You have my respects bro, your the 1st to bring this to light and you are truely keeping it real! WYG P.S Take my words as a grain of salt!

Depending on what your Yang practice is and yoru Yin practice is! Too much Yin -meditation can get you lose of muscle and bone desity and too much Yang can cause one to run the fire as well damage the organs (tension, stress), wearing of the joints, and creating Fung Sup (evil wind) arthritis from constant smashing of the body. Smart and proper training using, herbs, releasing Yang chi and harmonising it usually is done at the end of external practices to balance the bodys energy. Some Yin practices uses steel rods like iron body to vibrate the energy to the bones or bean bags which can be considered a yang workout. Chens taiji uses combination of rolling a ball (weights) with chi, intent, spirit etc. Its all a matter of training and developing your body correctly, i have practiced external and internal kung fu for over 20yrs that uses explosive power and the wear and tear on the body near the end i believed could have hurt my body especially the spine from the shock, the brain, joints, nervous system etc. Fast explosive arts that use shock power that trains forms striking the air i believe can lead to developing injuires later in life if someone is not smart enought to know when to stop. my 2 cents! wyg

Can you explain 10,000 shen mate?