Wun Yuen Gong

But look at the standard american diet and western diet people are dying young these days regardless.

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Wow very interesting, anywhere online i can read more about them or see the practice, unless you like to share more? All this stuff intrest me, thanks for sharing man... WYG AKA Nutcase

Max, uses alot of visualization methods by the looks of things!!! If the Mind is pure and strong it can acheive much...

Oh Thanks Truth! They do look like a Chunner? Tell us more about 5 Thunder Palms bro if you can?

The fire demon thing, the demon is the insanity or mental instability that results and the fire is the burning or excess yang that incinerates a meridian or energy pool in the body. All cases are different and the severity depends on the condition of the body at the time and the mal-practice that was done. I suppose the only thing that compares to it that people can understand is kundalini syndrome, which seems to be very similar symptom wise. It seems like blowing out a fuse or using an improper voltage or faulty wiring, just like electronic stuff as our meridians and chakras are like wires and batteries. For instance Kunlun level 1 runs the fire but later uses water visualization as a counter balance does it work, i dont know as most the TTB of kunlun havent passed level 1. But judging from there post they are all seem weird (just kidding) maybe!!! So these people looking for faster enlightement and what not can find that running the fire as they are doing and bringing in so much energy to there nervous system as Max has put in his book could be dangerous but if his level 1 visual med is also about keeping the practitioner safe then i guess its all good. But im just using Kunlun as an example nothing else. Anyway just some thoughts! WYG

Hahahah that is the TRUTH! And im possessed.......

The chinese has a saying for this "Run the fire, enter the demon" maybe this is why Daoist always use Water Method to stop the fire /yang as alot of Martial Artist and chi kung works mostly fire path! Water path is apparently the harder out of the 2. Best is to have a balance! I know 4 people that this has happened to and 1 was locked in an Asylum, 1 was possessed, 1 has mental health problems but the other on has a sickness that has blocked his throat and heart energys and some accupuncturist have tried to heal him and they automatically became sick and asked him to leave. Some get cold near him! All of these people i knew very well and i knew there training and i watched as they got worse and less healthy, and went made. LOL Maybe it was me??

Well well!!

Could it be all in the mind believing its happening and if so does it matter if its real or not?

mantra, Interesting indeed, i believe there is peoople that have knowledge that is for best for us earthlings as well to better the human race. What makes Max a buddhasattva and who called him this if you dont mind me asking? WYG

We are all immortal in a sense yes, if there is death then there must be life!

I said it was my "Opinion" nothing else! Max has said he has died a few times can you elaborate? I wouldnt see why an immortal would be wasting his time here....

Leo, There are no immortals living on this earthly plane, intelligent people but not immortals and if someone is to become immortal would never want to stay on this earth. That is my opinion! Mantra, I know Max has said that he has died, actually he has died a few times but is still on this earth, Why!? Care to share what your last post means, cause if this is true are you saying Max is an immortal but lives on earth? WYG

You find some very cool sites i must say on kundalini but this one seems to be a mix match of different beliefs was kinda hard to follow for me?? The main thing we have to consider with any practice is correct method and knowning when things go wrong or steer you wrongly. I guess Kundalini can be good if you have all the right information and the teacher that knows there stuff. I dont think people should compare energy systems as such but its always good to know what others are doing and what they have completed. Kunlun seems to work for people and most of them havent finished a yr training properly and without a teacher mostly from a book then they are comparing to other systems which there is no need for. I just hope that without the teacher they dont stuff their own energy cause of using a book?! WYG

No immortal lives on earth!!!

Its cooler cause Kundalini is a fire skill and was taught in India during the warmer months to help detoxify and sweat out all impurities. That is the difference!!!

This is the basics of learning point or body breathing its higher level in regards to using the intent to get it started. Some people visualize white light or energy coming in and a dark mist out using those points. Its a great exericise for healers to get there energy centers open and awareness. WYG

Well its a different realm sometimes you can travel which you can also gain knowledge from when you are out of body.

Ask your mother? oopsss!! Dont try and play the game i can also play it!!! lol

In some practises they have 5 point or heart breathing sometimes called 6 heart which breathing from the feet, hands, head, dan tian etc. Should feel like a pulsing or like a flap is opened and closes when it breaths thats a basic breakdown of the feeling. Full body breathing should feel a pressure and should go to the bone, and all cells! WYG

I hope to take my son up there one day, is that where they have the baby tigers?

Cloud, How was the seminar or free lecture recently i missed it>? WYG

I know!

You stand on your toes with your heels touching and your hands over head in a particular mudra while activating the kunlun energy! This is interesting anyone know the mudra or tried this?