Vajrahridaya

Ok, first of all... i love you man... Yeah bro. To make it as black and white, simple as possible. Virtue is reflective of connectivity and sin is reflective of dis-connection. Those crazy wisdom people, Guru's out there who there are many known writings about are so connected with endless-connectivity that their activity may seem to be in the throngs of wrong for most, but for them they see so far beyond the seeming now into the actually infinitely connected now that they transcend in their actions. This is to the point of seeming sin while really just burning karmas. So, yes, I'm with you on the point of crazy wisdom. Virtue is not always as it seems as these beings act within the context of infinite now, instead of finite now. So deep is this... I feel like Yoda now. Their inquiry into now far transcends those without insight. The virtue of an enlightened being may seem like sin to those without the same depth or infinite regress of the enlightened. This has nothing to do with emotional or intellectual excuses either. Anyway... I wasn't directly responding to your post as I didn't read it. Energy cultivation is not always in alignment with virtue cultivation.

Actually. I didn't even read your post. I was just saying that Songs was right that energy cultivation is not always in line with spiritual cultivation. I do equate spiritual cultivation with virtue cultivation. It's very simple for me in that sense.

wow, you're insecure.

Well, this is hardly a subjective situation here where you might disagree with whatever level of experience someone may have. You are pretty much objectively correct and this is probably universally understood that energetic cultivation is not always towards the goal of virtuous ends.

Because you are trying to choose your consumer-ship consciously. Other than that, I'm just giving some examples and not judging you at all. I have no idea what you buy when you go into a grocery store. I'm just sharing the ways I try to be in this society where you have choices of what you buy to sustain your own health and well being.

Very true, as some demonic minded people have incredible personal power and energy manipulation powers, psychic powers, etc. but don't have a spiritual nuance in their psychology.

Hmn, wonderful and sound synopsis.

It's not very hard to get you feeling nauseated, annoyed or bothered.

I refuse to buy eggs that are not free-range and organically fed. Even if they are more expensive, they taste a heck of a lot better and don't feel nearly as dense in the system during digestion.

Yeah, then they challenge their limited ideas by eating meat out of compassion for the animals mind stream that they are eating in order to bless it, and drink wine for the sake of taboo breaking. Amongst other taboo breaking things that may seem too extreme to mention here. At some point the fire in the system can burn so strong that a little butter and sugar is needed, as well as slight meat consumption. But really... enlightenment is available to anyone, regardless of how one regulates ones diet, as long as it's regulated for you personally and not due to some external ideas of confining dogma. Some people cannot be vegetarian, though most humans definitely can be completely vegetarian and probably should be due to how the human system works to digest. Mostly we are unable to digest meat properly due to our long intestines and enzymes more geared towards fruit and vegetables.

Good for you. Your Western Materialist ideas about life are also not unique. Plenty of people without direct experience transcending the 5 senses say, "Oh... it was just a trance." Because you lack experience, you rationalize your way out of it's possibility, thus limiting yourself over and over again to the trance of the 5 senses and ideas that "I was born and will die and that's it." If you may have fallen across a glimpse of self transcendence, you may dumb down your revelation through even more layering of materialist rationalism. Thereby stopping the possibility of having any more incredible eurika experiences transcending your perceived and safe ideas of limitation. You don't realize how limiting your view of reality is. You think you're down to Earth and rational, logical and wise. But really... you just haven't delved that deeply into yourself and your rational and logical mind bound by the senses keeps you from going any deeper.

I think it's fine to have a mundane view of Buddhas teachings. I feel one can progress nicely within humanity through the more Earth bound view of the Buddha. This type of Buddhism has a positive voice for society and I'm glad it exists. But, it's quite clear that he was a being of vast and deep experience even from the Suttas. So this idea about Buddhism not being a path of delving into the mysteries of expanded human experience from the very beginning is unfounded and seems to me to be more of a projection of wishful thinking. Those of us with some level of expanded human experience find support for these experiences in the Suttas and Sutras. It's an entirely different dimension of thinking and being that generally is not supported by the vast majority of humanity who are stuck in 5 sense bound reasoning. The Tantras of Vajrayana if practiced through transmission from qualified masters do lead to direct experiences of this transcendent nature of human capacity which many materialist realists and materialist rationalists may be skeptical about, but I suggest being skeptical about your skepticism. What is far fetched for you is direct experience for others. Blasto, You are welcome to your version of Buddhism, but for me, it's highly irrational and bound by a lack of intuition. It's basically too down to Earth. I don't think you can fully understand yourself without unraveling the inner mysteries of causes and conditions transcending identity with this physical incarnation. Without directly experiencing past lives and being skeptical about your own seeming limitations in experience, I don't feel that you will even get beyond the habit of limited identity which is subtler than mere logic and reason based on limited 5 sense experience. There is much to unravel within your own sub-conscious and un-conscious. I think you are going the slow way with this over rationalized and neatly boxed up version of Buddhas teachings. For me, the mystical aspects make sense and offer a deeper view of "rational comprehension", an expanded more spherical view. But, transcendent of 5 sense experience has to be incorporated in order for true sense to be made of the more other worldly positions postulated by Buddhism, even those aspects which appear in the Suttas, of which there is plenty of other-worldliness. It didn't just start appearing hundreds of years later, but was there from the very first turning of the wheel, in the basics. With the talking to gods, past life models of explanation, and the various elaborations on meditative experiences. Reality is more flexible than Western Realism postulates in my opinion and experience. P.S. When you read the autobiographies of various Tibetan and Indian Masters, you can see that they lived in an entirely different dimension of reality, which allowed for a more flexible view of many notions that most Westerners think of as fixed and definite. I don't think they were all lying when they talk about beings that can levitate, or project consciousness into a dead body and animate it as a zombie for a while, or manipulate matter through powers of mind. I've had my own fair share of "other worldly" experiences to give credence and value to these autobiographies.

One time as we were sitting in Yab Yum, my partner was licking blue light from my 3rd eye. She was amazed that this was actually happening. Yab Yum is amazing, as it fills the room with this wondrous light. I need to do that version more often me thinks. Thanks for sharing Shaktimama!

Actually it shows how deep inter-dependency goes and how beginning-less your mind stream is. This reveals many aspects of insight for those who wish to access the experiential meaning of dependent origination. Basically, this removes the "blame game" mentality on a deeply subtle level. It also reveals infinite regress.

Stay internally peaceful. Try to shop consciously. Give blessings to the world consciously, offering your merits, even if you feel that you have very few. You don't live in a Favela in Brazil, so... that's merit.

Yes, but you have to subvert external lust through mantra, and internalized intention and contemplation of the energy as divine, otherwise you are just suppressing yourself. A real transformation has to happen. You can use the external as a starting point, but you have to take that energy and focus on the energy itself, turning it into an inner offering rather than an external lusting.

Masters are of different accumulations, so there are an endless amount of things different masters can do that are different from others. The mind state is the same for all masters, but how they manifest entirely depends upon their merit accumulations. But to answer you simply... yes. Samsara is no different from Nirvana for a liberated one. The wheel turns from the wheel of suffering to the wheel of blissful expression, or the ornamental display of liberation.

Eggggzactly. It does take practice though. I practiced very intensely for hours upon hours per day for a while there, with and without partners. At first it takes intense focus as you are re-wiring your energy body and brain. After you learn how to do it, it becomes automatic. Like I've said before, I wake up and get clarity through orgasm rather than the previous feelings I used to get of muddy dross. I used to feel that next day hangover from ejaculation, but not anymore. In fact. If I'm tired in the morning before work, but I have to get up... I grab my partner, seduce her, make love, focus on the bottom tip of my spine, draw the energy up, call back, call back, breeeeeeaaaaath, repeat mantras, call back, as in pull back... absorb within, then release the waste... and zoooom, I'm ready for my day!

Indeed, which is why I didn't comment. But, basically the desire to do so for a Buddha is only for the sake of helping others as a Buddha has no need to remember anything. A Buddha has perfect peace, so there is no personal need for memory to even exist for a Buddha, but it does and at the point of Buddhahood it's an instrument of service for endless sentient beings.

No, it is far from the only effective means. One can do it standing, laying down, during sex, playing dominoes, driving a car, sitting on a turtle, for someone with sufficient kundalini experience that is. But, the full lotus is the quickest.

Yes, basically your vision has to be sufficiently purified enough to interact with an ascended master of any tradition really. Which is why many students go on fasts or long meditation retreats in order to do just that, interact with an ascended master. You are very welcome.

Yes, all of them. You have to have attained at least the first stage of Bodhisattvahood in order to interact with a Sambogakaya of a Buddha. Your vision has to be pure. That would be beginingless... so no, not all... just what's needed at a given moment. Yes, that's what constitutes Buddhahood.

The Dalai Lama often says things out of humility. But, the way they found him was by testing his ability to know some items from previous lives. I've read of him talking about his previous lives. So, I guess he has said different things for different reasons.

Yup, that's what happened to me.