Vajrahridaya

9. Superior right knowledge? 10. Superior right liberation? I've had glimpses of superior right knowledge, but never superior right liberation as I'm not a Buddha. I can only theorize on 10. based upon my glimpses of 9. and the Buddhas words. From Wiki; The acquired factors In the Mahācattārīsaka Sutta[60][61] which appears in the Chinese and Pali canons, the Buddha explains that cultivation of the noble eightfold path leads to the development of two further factors, which are right knowledge, or insight (sammā-ñāṇa), and right liberation, or release (sammā-vimutti). These two factors fall under the category of wisdom (paññā). [edit] Right knowledge and right liberation Right knowledge is seeing things as they really are by direct experience, not as they appear to be, nor as the practitioner wants them to be, but as they truly are. A result of Right Knowledge is the tenth factor - Right liberation[62] These two factors are the end result of correctly practicing the noble eightfold path, which arise during the practice of right concentration. The first to arise is right knowledge: this is where deep insight into the ultimate reality arises. The last to arise is right liberation: this is where self-awakening occurs and the practitioner has reached the pinnacle of their practice.

We do clarify the winds in the channels first through various techniques, then specifically aligning the energy with the calming central channel so that the experience is less wild as it moves through the meridians. EDIT: Some of the techniques though are quite wild as shown in the documentary, "Yogis of Tibet"

I try to be precise through English to the experience beyond words. This tends to make me try new and creative ways to use English in the articulation of spiritual topics. Other than that... I am Buddhist. You use Taoist terms as a Taoist. I use Buddhist.

Yes, you can still experience a persons enlightened nature or potential as your own actuality in perception. Therefore one can remain internally enlightened even when bombarded with the seemingly unenlightened because you are seeing the liberated nature past the appearance of bondage. As unlimited-ness acts as limited as a side effect of unlimited-ness. As Blake said, about cleaning the doors of perception and seeing the infinite nature of everything.

Ah! Stilling one's own mind... But what about all the other minds around me incessantly chatting and projecting images?? GAAH! No really, one doesn't need much conventional thought in order to function more happily in a world filled with conventionally unhappy people.

Yes, I think I'll just stop replying to ralis, songs and the like and maybe things will get calmer. I enjoy our debates though and have learned about Taoism more from you Stig and Apepch7 and have come to many agreements as well with Taoist philosophy as a result. Even though you seemed to jump on the bandwagon a bit Marblehead... Naughty!

Funny... I thought I proved you wrong! Ah... the merry-go-round of subjective relativity!

Only a Buddha knows! My Rinpoche has great respect for Jesus though. As I do.

So you guys are like my collective wife? :lol:

Truly insightful, in my opinion.

Ok.

Just put me on ignore. So easy... bye, bye my experience of the ogre Vajrahridaya. Then again... do what you wish... if this is part of your path to satisfaction, go for it!

Could be so... it's quite relative. The Buddha said that his dharma is empty of inherent existence and only exists relative to whoever is interpreting it. I do like your analogies. But... he also did define a "Right View" in reference to the Dharma of Buddhahood. It is the first part of his elaboration of the 8 fold path.

I guess your view is not a universally agreed upon dogma. Neither is mine. I don't rant and rave hatefully against people about this, I just speak my disagreements or agreements.

It's quite open.......

Are you unwilling to not be reactive? If you take another point of view to my posts that I am just speaking my own experience and view, and not take your own button reactions so seriously. You'll have another outlook and perception. I'm just matter of fact and speak what I feel and experience to be right. I actually have far more supporters than those that post. They are scared of you guys... honestly. You guys are pissed off from your own state of seeing. I speak life and my experience of life through Buddhist terminology, that is all. That's all. Because someone said the way is narrow, doesn't mean your mind has to be.

You can talk to the dead directly when your wisdom eye opens. It depends though as some dead are too caught up in their next life. There are so many various dimensions that one can experience after life beyond the 5 senses. To take your view through the 5 senses as the end all be all would be quite limiting of your own potential.

This is a debate. Debate is good for the mind.

I'd console her. I would not try to say much to a women who is very stern about her belief in the absolute of seeming death who has just lost her child unless she asked. There's more to life than meets the 5 senses and this can be known directly through jhana, meditation, or at times simple and open contemplation. My understanding of past life and future possibilities after death comes from direct experience. You personally would benefit more from being agnostic about the afterlife as you don't know for sure. No one is punished, we just reap what we sew, in this life and the next... endlessly, complex cause and effect. Life is an endless journey for me, I'm happy to say. I guess you don't believe in many of the Zen authors of the quotes in your Zen Poem thread. They all believe in previous lives and afterlives, and their beliefs generally speaking come also from direct experience as you are quoting from Zen Masters who are all masters of meditation in the Buddhist tradition.

Welp... I'm for one into debate for the sake of fresh reminders in the heat of seeming friction. I find it a part of my practice. I did kind of get that hint from him though.