Vajrahridaya
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Yes, but Buddha insight of dependent origination empties this experience of luminosity of it's self attachment or clinging to existence.
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No, I don't see a thing that is to be unlimited in the first place. This would be a mistaken cognition or mistaken identification with an experiential proof, considering it true and real from it's own side would be a subjective idealism. This is not going to liberate you completely. You are taking a totalitarian all absorbing view of Truth as real and self standing, this is the seed of Samsaric re-becoming according to the Buddha. It's a dogma. Buddhist view is truly viewless and without anchor. Thus, Buddhist definition of liberation or experiential insight into the nature of things is quite different from what you consider to be insightful. Buddhism is not a oneness path and never has been. Even though... all Buddhas are one in their experiential insight, they are not one in essence.
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Yes, the goal of Buddhism is in general quite different from the Taoist goal. Buddhist Tantric masters generally keep their stuff quite secret for posterity. Of course... I know of plenty of secret Taoist stuff too that you can't get into unless you get direct initiation into a particular lineage. Most of the stuff you get in mass is not the nitty gritty Taoism. It's the same with Hinduism. I've said this same thing myself about practitioners of other paths. Though I've been Buddhist for many lifetimes, I came into a Monist path in the start of this life in order to more directly practice the 4 immeasurables without the distraction of the nitty gritty detail oriented Buddhism as focusing on everything as being "God" is a much simpler approach. So, I came to a level of experiential understanding of the 4 immeasurables which are deeply necessary for liberation before coming back to Buddhism to go deeper again.
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Deeply pushed button harping!
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You don't really read what I write, you only read how you read what I write. I'm not putting down individuals themselves, just as the Dalai Lama doesn't put down Chinese even though he sees that communist totalitarianism is an all absorbing reality that many Chinese are victims of. Taoism is a much higher non-dual belief system than Communism by a huge, huge margin.
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Is Tao an Ontological Essence of Life?
Vajrahridaya replied to Stigweard's topic in General Discussion
Mmmm... sounds a bit ambiguous. But... if it floats your boat for now as I know it does for you Stiggy... do it well as I know you do! To say that Tao is dependent upon Tao is the same as saying it's self originating without causation. This is not what Dependent Origination means as Dependent Origination is not a primal cause, as Dependent Origination means, no primal cause or ontological essence, just endless flow without a single origin or point of origination, either one with as in the non-dual Monist traditions of Taoism and Hinduism, or dualistic in the sense of most Mono-theism's. -
Interesting that when I connect to him, I experience great joy and bliss. When he comes to me in dreams he is in a state of great joy and bliss. The Dalai Lama is quite beyond psychological suffering.
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Suffering doesn't seep within if one sees suffering for what it truly is, empty of any inherent power of binding. This has to be directly experienced though from the point of view of luminous emptiness. When you see that physical suffering has it's causes from without and psychological suffering has it's causes from within, one can more easily take on the mentality of suffering through internal practice, changing ones inner relationship with oneself and mind thus changing the way one lives so that the outer causes of suffering diminish as well. It's really about how one internally views a situation which causes psychological suffering or not. So, this is why we do our practices, to find inner joy even when everything externally turns muddy.
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Not the Buddha nor any other Buddha teaches this. But, you are welcome to believe what you wish. The Buddha taught that what you believe leads to higher rebirth, but not liberation from samsara. Your view is a view of the Brahma paths, which is fine and good, and leads to perfection of the 4 immeasurables, but not perfection in wisdom of the way the cosmos churns.
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There is plenty of energy practices with movement and practical information on diet in the Vajrayana path, just like there is in Hindu Tantra as well. It's also fine to integrate Taoism with Buddhism as long as one upholds the view. Of course it's fine to do whatever you want to do, not even hold up the "right view". It's just that the result of any internal practice in the long run is conditioned by ones view. Close but not really. This is exactly what they say about Brahman, that it's not it... it's an experience... etc. It's still referencing a truly existing source of all being that is without cause. Therefore Tao is not referencing emptiness as it's considered beyond phenomena, the transcendent whole of everything. Which is fine... it's a good transcendent concept which leads to very good places and states of consciousness. It's just not he whole enchilada that takes one completely beyond possible future psychological suffering or re-births. So, therefore it doesn't fully help, only partially.
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What the Buddha stated basically is that there is no source, there is only infinite regress, and your identification with an infinite essence is an extreme the Buddha called Eternalism. This idealism of yours and so many others only leads to higher rebirth and not liberation from Samsara.
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To elaborate. Basically, you are taking your peak experience as a proof of a self existing essence, thus you are not seeing Buddhadharma directly, only subjectively.
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Everyone has their own path to Buddhadharma, even if it's the path of rejecting their own subjective concept of Buddhadharma first, even if for many lifetimes before truly coming to Buddhadharma (Buddha=Awake and Dharma=Path or "the way" or "rule". So... coming to the path that see's the way to awakening as the rule of liberation is variable for each and every person also sees dependent origination, as awakening is dependent upon the wisdom of emptiness not identity with an ultimate entity. Thus... Buddha can never be equated with idolatry.
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Aleister was deeper than most know of course. But... he was still somewhat subjective in his idealism. He did connect to some very high level energies though. I do give him that. I have been initiated into Thelema a number of times, both in Cali and NY.
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That image except from the perspective of the being holding the star is what I've had, but during my waking up process saw endless others with that level of power and bliss coming before, after and during, thus seeing that there is no inherent being that holds this or any, throughout infinite universes made up of endless beings. Seeing dependent origination/emptiness far transcends these traditions that see a supreme source, cause, omega or alpha that is TRUE existence. I am not a universalism of subjective ideology like all Theo's of theism's are. Yes, it seems very powerful and blissful and deeply healing to one degree or another, but is not Buddhahood (awakehood). The details of awakening are to be had directly through cognition of the meaning of dependent origination/emptiness, the wisdom that transcends the samadhi of neither perception nor non-perception which all other paths lean their wisdom upon. Neither perception nor non-perception is already a state of realization very hard to comprehend both conceptually and experimentally. Thus dependent origination which the Buddha declared is deeper, must be quite a whopper of profundity to swallow if you are merely reading these words.
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I'm not putting down the people who identify with being Taoist. I'm just saying that as it appears conceptually and methodologically, is not a complete path to the end of the "suffering" which afflicts the majority of this cosmos. Generally speaking the Taoist goal merely leads to higher rebirths. This truth you can understand directly through realizing exactly what the Buddha taught. As he said... "How would I teach this... it's so profound that most people will just not understand." Due to craving for one level of supreme existence or another.
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Suffering and attachment is a very deep affliction and is the cause of all the worlds problems. When one says that I only see the path when I am suffering and not when I am not, that means that the potential for suffering is still there. Only dependent origination/emptiness sees the cause and the effect as inherently empty. All other paths see something there, some inherent "that" or "this" that is beyond concept as the supreme cause of all things, even if blissful for a time being is not the experience of emptiness and it's illumination through recognition which is really free from this potential for future suffering. Dependent origination is not concerned with comfort zones, or passing spaces of happiness that are dependent upon this or that condition. Only emptiness through the teachings of what the Buddha said which did not appear before him in this eon lead to complete emptiness of the possibility of future suffering, in this lifetime or many more to come. The dilemma is deeper than your argument with me not appealing to your comfort zones. I don't care much to appeal to your comfort zones because they are the cause of your suffering. So the more I push your buttons, the more opportunities you have to look at yourself and realize the inner causes of your suffering and see how much more dependent upon inner conditions they are than the outer condition of my appearance in your field of perception. Get a view... the view-less view, without cause and without effect... without any inherent being what so ever.
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Yes, Taoism leads to good places, but it doesn't uphold the viewless view. Everyone has their capacity.
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Taoism takes up the "Tao" as an ultimate position which all things spring from and are in essence. So basically you take the universal subjective idealism as ultimate view. Thus... this is not a viewless view. It's basically a deep comfort zone.
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Begs what question? You only question because you have deeply ingrained conditions of opposition in your mind which impede your ability to read what the Buddha said. Much less understand anything I've written. My view is not the right view. This is not what I speak. You find argument from the wrong position of defining, so really you are arguing with yourself, as always.
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Buddhadharma is the only path that doesn't take up any view as ultimate, thus interdependent origination is the viewless view. So, it's the only path as explained that does lead to liberation without any residual attachments. Other paths lead to some sort of ultimate view, some sort of ultimate existence, i.e. God, Brahman, Tao... etc. All these are considered terms for that which is "beyond terms" but truly exists from it's own side. So... these are subtle forms of attachment, even if they are formless, infinite concepts beyond name and form. The Buddha said that these paths lead to higher rebirth but not liberation from Samsara as many of them say they do, but do not. If they did it, then they realized interdependent origination, thus they realized the Buddhadharma. I give respect to them, though they are not deemed complete in the eyes of Buddhas. The Buddha said as such himself that Brahma paths are not complete. Brahma paths are paths of subjective idealism. Taking up an experience as proof of an ultimate reality. This is the deep seed of Samsaric re-becoming. The Buddhadharma is very specific and clear. One should not be fooled by similar descriptions. These types of comparisons are all over the place. These are nice, but Jesus did not teach a complete path of method and wisdom. Though by being a true Christian in the best sense does lead to higher rebirth, thus is a path worthy of respect, just not refuge. My point here is to promote "right view" or the viewless view of dependent origination/emptiness which truly liberates. Not war. Just debate. Your view, though it makes people feel nice and comfortable, does not lead to liberation.
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Eh... Hell... Mel (Brooks that is), Smell... all empty of inherent origin, or substance, thus without any inherent power of binding.
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As far as some of the Christian mystics go... yes.
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All Kali Yuga means is that the vast majority are still ignorant of their own nature. This adversity makes it harder to come into contact with true teachings and teachers about the truth of things and mostly people are just confused by the vast assortment of information. But, if one were so inclined, one could come to know the truth of themselves much faster due to this adverse pressure. One can transcend such Yugas for oneself and always live in a Satya Yuga from within. But, as far as Kali Yuga being an age where the vast majority on Earth as in 75% or higher do not know their own true nature being over? Look around.
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One should definitely partake in a good mediation practice involving invocation of enlightened energies, or beings. These energies should protect you all day and night. Getting ones mind aligned is what it's about and thus regular practice is needed, at least for a prolonged period of time in order to get it really working.