Vajrahridaya

Your interpretation of me has always been way simplistic. Totally misunderstanding my intent. My explanation apply's to you one of the most in fact. Due to the fact that you read through the lens of static consciousness.

They come about as a natural result of calming the neurotic tendencies and previously instinctual habit patterns. So, I'd so no... they are natural side effects of delving deeper into ones own potential.

Many people don't understand that dogma is not merely religious, but also just mental blockages, limited identities based upon limited reference as criteria for self experience. Self is relative, so are it's experiences, including suffering. This is all the Buddha teaches. Everything is malleable.

By bringing Buddhism to it.

It's just prideful Westerns who think they are so smart but have little inner inter-cosmic experience who think they are actually sane, but are just suckers for popularly accepted 5 sense verifiable reality and have no idea the powers of mind that lay dormant inside far past this neurosis. Or they are prideful of their very little sense of logic and reason? Or they think they are smarter than the teachers who have transcended their stupidity but they are too ego-maniacal to know it because their too busy projecting their hurt, neurotic egos onto the teachers? Your statement and most of them are very neurotic ralis. Not to mention, complete representations of mis-understanding. You exist on an entirely different dimension of perceptual reception, because you claim to be a follower of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu's teachings but have no grounding in what he's actually teaching. You should read some of his precious vase, because though nothing other than Guru Yoga is considered compulsory, for you it seems highly necessary! But, you want to keep that "grounded sense of reasoning" nice and snug, don't you? Nothing too far out man.... no way! Are you scared of flying ralis?

Yes they get easier... and you learn to relax even more into them and gain more benefit.

I think we need to stop making absolute judgments and strip ourselves first.

It's you who misinterprets. I've said that this reality is influenced by a Buddha, but not specifically a Buddha realm. I think it's your own mind that sees what's not there.

Ah yes... same! Thanks!

Sure, one can say cosmology, but not all cosmologies are reflective of liberation. Many go to certain levels of experience and are true, but not complete. It's not that Hindu cosmology or Christian cosmology is absolutely wrong, it's just considered incomplete as the lineages didn't go far enough, or use the practice method that is the contemplation of dependent origination in relation to all the inner experiences. Thus many of the inner experiences of yogi's and mystics is not wrong, just incomplete and prematurely considered the truth of things. When I say Buddhist Cosmology, I mean awakened perception cosmology. It's subtler, not because of the label, but because of the meaning is different from other cosmologies known to man. Not every path leads to the same city. The Universe is far subtler and more complex than this. Of course equally and simply empty of any subtle self as well, but none the less. Buddhism grasps the complexities, much more in line with current findings in quantum physics even though it also far transcends these theories as well as the scientific findings believed to be hard fact.

No it's not, but it does only agree with the methods that lead to Jalus, no matter what language, etc. If it leads to Jalus, then fine. But, right now, it only lives in Buddhist lineage as far as what is available to the public at least. There might be secret lineages that still practice such things in other regions of the planet, but they are not so widely known. They are alluded to but no one is really teaching the exact methods publicly. Dzogchen is, and it's through Buddhist lineage. If you already know the inner meaning of it, then the further away you are from the need from any of the so called "methods" towards the meaning. It's just that Dzogchen is so specific that the methods and the fruit are very deeply reflective of each other as it's working directly with the energy of mind and phenomena towards a specific outcome.

I get that last point, but Dzogchen is only a religion if you don't understand it's meaning. It has no failings, only students fail to see it's meaning. The experience of Jalus, that is dissolving the physical constituents into subtle Buddha mind activity knows as the Rainbow Body or Body of Light is the goal, not becoming stuck in the outer tools that are necessary for directing body and mind. Now just becoming a body of light is not enough, it's direction of intention is very important, and of course light naturally shines and illuminates. So, that's pretty self explanatory as well. It's just, how many lineages still exist that can bring about this fruit. Most lineages this advanced are either deeply secret or completely lost. Dzogchen is somewhat secret, but also way accessible these days if the desire is there for anyone. It's lineage is pure and still leads to that incredible goal with many recent realizers of the Jalus, leaving nothing at the highest level of total karmic absorption into pure enlightened intention or just hair and fingernails left behind. How many lineages still attain this that are available to the general public? If your mind is too scientific on the limited level of popularly accepted viability, then this is not so good for a genuinely spiritual seeker.

Thanks for clearing that up ralis! It's quite true though... I don't fully know what being objective is because I'm still subject to many neurotic tendencies...

What head? This labeled collective connected to endless other collectives? Anyway... yes it's true, I'm not a fully realized and omniscient Buddha and cannot travel inter-dimensionally to the degree that a Buddha can. Very true... I am limited by my lack of realizations. As far as your opinion about the Noble Truths... The Buddha labeled them as Noble Truths to begin with. He fashioned an entire system of tools for which people could use to free themselves because people are generally too distracted by their subjective opinions to see the truth. You are absolutely free to not use these tools. Of course, most likely your path does share influences with the Buddhadharma.

Everyone has their process of progress.

It's the perfect quote for forums like this. If you take things personally... you know you're having an issue.

It's a nice practice all by itself. It's also great when coupled with Vajra practices of other types too. It's nice that you're doing it!

Of course Rakushun! I myself only experienced my first real tastes non-dual experience in solitude.

No, Samsarins rule this realm. Buddha ruled realms are in much higher vibration dimensions or universes. You can't see them cuz you ain't quick enough my dear Ralis. We are mostly encumbered by our dense identifications with crude material things, ya know? I was born through the womb, and people get sick and die, I get pleasure through body friction, and it hurts if you hit my body and such... you know... the regular slow moving type of identifications. We don't have to be because even this crude matter is made of sparkly moving so fast we generally can't see through the 5 senses energy particles. But a Buddha realm is even subtler than quarks and atoms. So, if you can't see quarks and atoms, what makes you think you could see this Buddha realm that moves much subtler? Meditate Mr. Ralis... Meditate!

This is quite an example of contrasting duality. A sage of non-dual awareness could do both without actually identifying with doing anything. There is no concept of enlightened sage vs. worldly people within the inner experience of a truly realized sage, even if they do recognize the mundane designation of such ideas. Internally, bliss while sitting, and bliss while wrestling, the joy of liberation is everywhere because all things are equally empty of substantive self-hood and thus luminous and sparkly with the presence of non-dual ease.

This is hilarious!!! Somewhat sad... but also hilarious!!

Direct experience through meditation and contemplations. The same way that yogis of old realized multi-verse. That the cosmos is more than just a physical plain of being. Through meditation and subtlifying consciousness past the 5 senses. Yes, I understand that Taoism revers mystery. Buddhist path unravels the mystery, thus enlightenment in Buddhism means, no more ignorance of how the cosmos works. Buddhism teaches penetrative insight and doesn't congratulate limiting comfort zones. The path works to transcend and understand the senses from a deeper vantage point of perception, not to run away or hope for a better heaven. But rather that this universe is based upon a subtler one and even denser ones... it's rather quite vast and to understand the causes of ones ignorance is to free oneself from them. One can experience these things through meditation and penetrative contemplation, using the correct tools as offered by the Buddha and Buddhas in general.