Vajrahridaya

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. Buddha Blinded by the oceanic bliss of the Brahma realm, I could not see past the idea of "that" as being the source of all beings. The Buddha saw past what Lau Tzu say's is a source of all things, a single, self existence that is the supreme cause of all the 10,000 things. His conclusion in that sense, does not appeal, neither to me, or to what the Buddha has taught. Not meaning to offend your sensibilities, but I just spoke what I have realized... What else?

Fabulous! If it comes from the need to be right, then definitely look into it. All the best Serene!

That's awesome, I got it on a... multidimensional... or, non-dimensional level. I'm all hot wired right now after reading this!! Fabulous... wonderful!! Don't give everyone this jewel, they might use it as an excuse to act chaotic without any real understanding. Much like telling people online to, "If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him." Most will just not understand what that means and what level of realization you'd have to have in order to actually implement that information with wisdom. He's probably my favorite Christian saint. He even shaved the crown of his head, no doubt as a symbol of a mystical experience of the crown chakra! I've read all his stuff... Looove him!!

Then go ahead and change the way it works! I'd like to see your omnipotence. Which in Buddhism is not possible. No one is omnipotent according to Buddhism, which makes it different from all Theistic paths. You can change your unconscious but you cannot change another's, unless they are open to it. The worst you can do is kill another's body, and the best you can do is love a person so totally that they see it and recognize their own live through your offering of it. The rest of your display...? I won't even talk about. Yes, inch on the megalomaniac. Very good. Clapping at manure for the plants I see? You can have it self proclaimed Buddha of the internet. Some day you'll find your humility bone, and see with real eyes.

LOL! Nice try... But... no. This is not how the cosmos works. You have not taken refuge in the Buddha/Dharma and Sangha yet. So your conclusions are really blemished by a lack of humility towards the Buddhas from history and present. You would benefit greatly from it. Taking the shine away from realized Masters who love you more than you even yet have the capacity to ascertain, who love you more than you love yourself, is the method of madmen, proud fools who think their little taste is high realization. Yes, I realized a greater sense of joy when I accepted this fact.

The aggregates are merely in a repressed and formless state as the formless level of the 5 elements which represent the 5 senses. They take the sixth sense of consciousness as the main element and reify that as totality. It's not that the 5 aggregates still don't have sway over them, it's that they have repressed their karmic manifestation for a time being. You'd still have the power of vision as such, as in subtle sight, and some blind people do in fact have awareness of this. The rest I won't go into because it's pointless. You need a good and realized teacher yourself as you are too proud of what you think you know.

No, it is the experience of phenomena that is one with awareness of the experience of phenomena, not that things and awareness are one, they are interdependent. Consciousness, earth, fire, air, water, ether. Awareness is an aspect of consciousness and is not an independent entity that is the true identity of a being. It's merely an aspect of your consciousness which originates dependently on an endless array of inter-dependence. You awareness is one with the experiencing, not the experienced, though the experienced arises in a certain way due to causes and conditions based on attachment since beginningless time. Yes, things exist without awareness, it's just that things arise due to consciousness, not to say that you are aware of the result of your attachments. Just as the higher realm beings were not aware of the effects of their thoughts and attachments, and little did they know that they were manifesting a 3 dimensional realm that this is from the potentiality left over from the last physical universe. All you guys should read some Abhidharma as I suspect that you have not, including Lucky. The manifestation of things is an extremely complicated process that can really only be understood through experiencing the bodhi of the Buddhas. But, Abhidharma does attempt to put how things are into concepts and such in lots and lots of books. We have manipulated the elements into this situation yes. But we weren't necessarily aware of the fact that we were doing so, so many trillions of Earth years ago before we first took birth into dense manifestations during this cosmic physical eon. Yes, I just say study, "The Treasury of Knowledge". The answer is deeply complicated in conceptual form. Yes, you are right in a sense of course. But this is not solipsism per say. Because that is a completely deluded, self involved philosophy that doesn't recognize it's own inter-dependence.

Your awareness is present due to an endless line of present awareness'.

This is the kind of paradoxical view that arises when one reifies awareness and thinks it's the truth and all else is false. Dependent origination reveals that it neither is, nor is not, not both, not neither.

Also the great movies that have arisen from religious belief systems! All the erroneous beliefs that people have reified into different relams of experience, dimensions of reality, afterlife's, etc. All due to the power of dependent origination.

Thank you! Though Buddhist interpretation of the ultimate truth is different from this version that you are stating as to Buddhism, there is no one essence, or mysterious allness that all things are. This would be considered an extreme of Eternalism to Buddhism as all things are dependently originated without primal cause or essence since beginningless time, including consciousness. We consider the experience of oneness a misinterpretation of the experience of emptiness. When the consciousness expands and seems to pass through all things in a seeming "oneness", it's really just consciousness becoming aware beyond itself, but without knowing the cause, which is emptiness. A Buddhist due to training in the right view, understands that it's the condition of emptiness which is allowing for this experience of expansion and the seeing through and beyond itself and things, thus the Buddhist who understands the 1st of the nobel 8 fold path does not get caught up in erroneous views such as Eternalism or Nihilism. So for Buddhism, the two Truths are that things appear but have no essence. All the best!

Your lack of agnosticism towards, "past and future lives", "ghosts", "other dimensions of experience"... could be considered a mental dogma. Dogma is just an idea that one holds to as reality, it's not necessarily religious. p.s. Not trying to offend, just point that out.

Not a personal connection. An impersonal connection to be connected to these peoples exploits in any way like the 6 degrees of separation theory. Connected through connections that are connected, etc. I understand that dependent origination and the process of causation is beyond your capacity to comprehend as you hold tightly the sense of difference and duality. You are having a hard time seeing inter-connectivity so your interpretation of my posts are lacking due to not being able to see the meaning directly. I don't see dirt, just interdependent arisings without inherent existence. So, things are pure as they are, even though they are also as they seem. The two truths integrated seamlessly. Teaching people the way out of Samsara has been the mission of Buddhism since day one, not philanthropic work which is merely patch work. Teaching real method and philosophy that leads to freedom from the conditions of suffering through a process of progress is the Buddhist axiom. Since the Buddha, millions of humans have attained Buddhahood, both known and unknown. Not everyone will see this or get this obviously. Because you cannot see this or make sense of this doesn't mean that it's not so. Everything seems mechanistic in explanation but in realization it's actually quite organic and much deeper than the explanation. There are poetic ways of putting things and there have been many poetic Buddhas who you may like to hear from. Actually Tao99. If you really want to be objective, you have to go back many, many months in previous posts to see the history of ralis' postings towards me. Not just in this thread, or the last few threads but probably about 50 threads and 100 posts from ralis to me that are all pretty mean spirited. The things I say to ralis reflect this long 6 to 7 month history, not just a few posts. If you were to look at Songs posts towards me historically as well as your posts towards me historically. I think you'd be surprised at what people with an actual objective view point would feel. That you are part of the gang of 3 who stalk me and post negative comment after negative comment simply due to the fact that what I post is contrary to your view. My so called Ad-Hom's to you reflect history as well Tao99. You started posting pretty emotional posts some time ago then stopped for a while, then picked up again. p.s. I think I'll go back to ignoring you 3 as any engagement is fruitless.

The experience of emptiness is fullness without grasping, or without delusion.

Thank you Capital. I appreciate that. Replace "belief systems" with "bitter thoughts" and you've hit your mark.

It will last as long as it's empowered to last, because she hasn't emptied out all her karmas, one never knows what her storehouse has in store for her? She could go higher and become more realized if she has the karma to contemplate even in this realm, or she could drop in her evolution due to becoming complacent and who knows maybe her attachments to pleasures increase. People leave these realms as randomly as people leave these realms, except it's different because people aren't womb born into these higher realms, they are mind born, so they don't die like a body dies here. Sure. Of course when a person dies, they experience the propulsions of subconscious desires or karmas and these may be stronger than their conscious ones that they were carrying around. It's complicated as each individual is. Doubtful, due to the fact that they die with a sense of fear and hate, they most likely have subconscious issues that have deeply strong negative influences that will overcome their blind faith. Dzogchenpas transcend realms. We don't attach liberation to a heaven realm or a deity, we see all these realms and deities as equally empty of inherent existence and originating dependently through a process of co-creativity of mind streams. Dzogchen masters, or Buddhas for that matter don't get stuck in any idea of a realm or a heaven. Not to me. Thanks... I'm working on it. I'll wish the same blessing for you as well. I'm hardly grumpy. I actually am never angry with you guys, mostly just surprised and astonished. It's amazing that two people can mis-interpret everything I say and be so proud of it and self righteous of these mis-interpretations to such an amazing degree and appear on the same board? I've never experienced this before. But, it does offer the opportunity to keep on clarifying the meaning for those who do read with an open desire for learning. I like it better when you guys just ask for clarity instead of jumping to mis-placed conclusions and don't get so arrogant and insulting. I have nice conversations with people that disagree with me all the time.

That's different, not all circumstances that befall you are determined by your desire or Ichha Prarabdha karma. Obviously. Also, the universe does not have a conscience, thoughts and actions just bare fruit through a complicated process of inter-dependent influencing. I suppose you think things just happen randomly, without cause, that thoughts and actions are not intertwined? That mind and body are two entirely separate dimensions that have nothing to do with each other? Obviously that's absurd, much like your interpretations of my words. You are definitely not a Dzogchen practitioner. You definitely have no knowledge of the teachings of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche. That's become completely obvious now. This is a good place for me to start understanding you from. As I explained in the description of karma, if you had of actually been reading, which I've come to the conclusion that you do not actually read a thing I say because you're not actually interested in learning anything new. Well... so be it. I'll talk anyway. As I said, Prarabdha karma has 3 types; Ichha (personally desired), Anichha (without desire) and Parechha (due to others' desire). So those karmas were other's desires (Parechha). Though of course for the families to be there at that time was not random either. But, that doesn't mean the cause of them being there was in a black and white sense, that they did that to someone in a past life so it was done to them in this life, that's a common mis-use of the teaching of karma, but due to their thoughts and actions, they ended up in that situation and got slaughtered just due to the fact of inter-relating influencing of choices. The concept of karma if rightly understood should engender compassion, not cold complacency. It's compassion which is Nishkam karma that nullifies non-beneficial occurrences and feelings because actions and thoughts that spring from genuine compassion have the power of the realization or influence of the recognition of emptiness which is a condition that makes interconnectivity beyond the appearance of difference possible and impermanence possible as well. So compassion can change a seemingly engraved in stone result into something more beneficial. They had a connection with Stalin and Hitler, but that doesn't mean they made a pact to perform a mass suicide through the hands of these dictators. No, karma is more complicated than that and each individual had their own unique karmic reasons for ending up in that situation. It's said that one can determine one's own karmas, past, present and future, but it's extremely difficult, or next to impossible to comprehend someone else's exact karmas of the 3 times. Anyway, it wasn't their Ichha prarabdha it was their parechha prarabdha karma. Well, at this time... it does seem so. There is always time though.

Like I said, that's your prarabdha karma and this will be your karma no matter what you think or do. But, what you think can determine whether or not you suffer this karmic experience or not, as this karma results from past lives and is complicated. As I explained in my explanation of the different types of karmas. You must not have been reading. You also need to read in a way where you actually know how to mix them up and see the complicated inter-relations that are going on as there are also many other beings at work here on this planet all influencing each other through all these different levels of karma. You are just seeing the surface and not seeing the deep implications as they relate to life. It's probably because you haven't done a single day of sitting meditation where you consciously transcend your conscious linear thinking mind that's trapped in the sequenced progress of time. Though maybe you have, but when I asked you, you didn't answer. Your Sanchita karma determines your inner and emotional interpretation of the experience of hearing loss, and your future lifes prarabdha karma because your state of mind determines your actions or your kriymana karma. Who knows, maybe your positive thoughts (sanchita karma) and actions (kriyamana karma) can bring you into an alignment with a circumstance that leads to the end of this hearing loss, like a break through in science. Due to your actions you meet the right people or something of that nature. It's not that I'm wrong, it's that you are interpreting what I say wrongly. You've decided in your mind that I am wrong so you are even mis-interpreting what I'm stating in a way that keeps this pre-conception true in your mind. Even when I clearly state that your sanchita karma cannot change your prarbdha karma if it's destined to be a certain way due to past life karmas that you cannot go back in time to change. Your sanchita karma is your state of mind and your kriyamana karma is your state of current action that can change your future. Your prarabdha karma is the current results of your past kriyamana and sanchita karmas. I don't assume anything about your assumptions outside of what you have written to me. What you have written to me makes it quite clear what you do think of me. That phrase, "change your mind, change your life" is for people like you Songs, who can actually change their mind and their life. Not for those without the power to do so. Yes, the baby was born severely retarded due to karmas. There are no effects without causes and past lives condition this life. If you don't believe in past lives, then that's your issue with Buddhadharma, not mine. Ah, from your repost I caught that I wrote steam instead of stem. Well ralis, what else is new from you? Not a thing I gather. CT, Thank you.

Hi rebelrebel, to clarify... As a specific focus engenders all sorts of actions and also the state of meditation and contemplation. The result of this focus may manifest soon as in it also depends on the other assortments of karmas or mental alignments that have happened in the past that have impressions or (samskaras = karmic impressions) deep within the person in question. But if one's focus is very strong and from deep within the person is integrating a formless reality with every aspect of their conscious mind as well as the subconscious. If he/she has illuminated their unconscious and integrates all these aspects of his/her psychology into this grasping at a formless absolute that underlies everything, then yes. The result is when one's karmas of physicality and even the different heavens that one may go to have burnt up, due to this intense focus, the goal of merging with a formless state of consciousness as an absolute ground of being at the end of a cosmic eon, will happen. Definitely because you've aligned your entire being with it, your conscious/subconscious and unconscious have all been illuminated and made to reflect this particular belief in a universal cosmic source that is a formless being of pure consciousness, as this result originates dependent upon that focus. I understand that you are having a hard time understanding the implications of some of my blogs because I don't always go into detail on how it all works on the complicated level that it works on. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. Yes, we manifest in different realms according to our focus and how intense that focus is or how much energy we have invested in that focus. If a persons focus is scattered and one has a belief in this and that, is not sure about this or that, and one has not illumined all of ones subconscious states of mind and integrated these states with a particular belief, but is in fact scattered, then it's hard to tell exactly what will happen for that someone right after death. It entirely depends upon how much energy (karma) one has invested on all levels of ones being in a particular belief or experience which determines the outcome. When I said what you are referring to, I was specifically talking about the first paragraph in this explanation when a persons entire being is enraptured in the faith of that particular result. Like if a Christian has their entire life this idea about a heaven with a god who has a throne and if he or she spends their life living in a virtue that reflects the desire to experience this heaven and he or she integrates his or her entire psychology around this end. Doing good for the sake of this result, being good for the sake of having love from this God, and when he or she experiences this joy and bliss as fruit of his or her action dedicated to this god in this particular idea of a heaven realm. When he or she dies, and his or her entire being is enraptured by this idea and his or her energy is completely focused on this result, this will definitely bare fruit. For as long as this intention and focus has been empowered to last for, this person will experience that heaven after death, until another karma arises in the mind stream after some time that this person wasn't aware of due to not completely illuminating his or her unconscious. Anyway, it is complicated and not simplistic.

Yes CowTao, Which is why there are all sorts of different categorizations in Sanskrit for karma. Sanchita karma - actions of mind or thought, or intention or intended action. Agami karma - is intention related to sanchita and kriyamana. Kriyamana karma - actions manifesting in the now based on ones sanchita karma Prarabdha karma - past life karmas or historical karmas which are definitely going to be experienced in and as this body. Like your physical possibilities, DNA, genes, etc. Also the unavoidable circumstances that will happen to you regardless of your kriyamana or sanchita karma There are three kinds of Prarabdha karma: Ichha (personally desired), Anichha (without desire) and Parechha (due to others' desire). For a self realized person, a Jivan mukta, there is no Ichha-Prarabdha but the two others, Anichha and Parechha, remain [2], which even a jivan mukta has to undergo. Nishkam karma - actions without selfishness, or actions performed without conscious or subconscious personal desire and without the sense of I have to do this for this result. Basically selfless actions. These are the kind of mental and physical karmas (actions) that lead to the experience of emptiness. Sakam Karma - actions that stem from a heavy sense of attachment or duty. Though it doesn't have to be negative and can be a step in the right direction if that sense of duty is connected with the desire for the experience of dharma. It's all quite complicated and there are mixtures. So, one can't really understand the doctrine of karma without understanding these and the mixtures. The doctrine of karma is deeply subtle and not simplistic as ralis would have you believe.

Actually Songs, Sanchita karma (as in mental persuasion) is immediate and can change one's emotional experience and interpretation immediately upon reception and application of an influence, lets say, reading a book, or hearing a great Dharma talk. All possible physical occurrences don't change automatically due to a change in perception, but one's sense of guilt, or fear can change immediately or over a short period of practicing a change in perspective, so this is called Sanchita Karma which is as malleable as water, or as confined as ice. Yet changing one's sanchita karma is the first step to changing one's destiny. Basically, change your mind, change your life. It's interesting Songs, all your assumptions about me and Buddhism have been shown to be inadequate. Yet you still persist without a single revelation of having learned anything. Ah well. You will probably come up with some sort of retort.

Your welcome, from as you have deemed a friendly neighborhood cult member, with the talent for incohesive sentence building as part of the incomprehensible paragraphs of verbal expression from an uptight mentality. I'm just straight with it, while you beat around the bush. From as far as I can tell during our months of interchange, that you have yet to seriously embark on the spiritual path. You have yet to humble yourself and let go of what you think you know based upon the limits of your experience and realize that your views have yet to decrease your own suffering. Instead you use your bitter emotions and intellect to focus on dismantling other peoples spiritual vision and experiencing by calling them illogical, incomprehensible, monkey minded and next to illiterate. Yet you say you have received Rigpa transmission, but except for the "hridaya meditation" you don't believe a single thing that Norbu Rinpoche actually teaches? Which is nothing different from the things I have said here as I have gone through the trouble, well pleasure rather of reading his written works and transcribed talks. So, it's not a question of better or superior, it's a question of study and depth of practice. As effort does bare fruit, experiential and intellectual.

Yes, these are the way's that ignorant view points proliferate in our world, through mass media. People like ralis think that they think for themselves but they are as brain washed as the vast majority in this Kali Yuga. Thinking those without spiritual poverty are brain washed and part of a cult, but those who uphold the standard of experiential limitation the intellectual elite, who are part of clubs like Mensa. I don't succumb to the unfortunate view points of the masses, I repeat my mantra and contemplate it's meaning. I wash my brain regularly.