Vajrahridaya

I actually experience a sense of freedom when I see and understand karma. I see that I have no one to blame and that my efforts do bare fruit. Why should I be scared? What do I have to feel guilty about? The only way one would feel guilt or fear when looking at the concept of karma is if you don't like how you live, or the actions you commit or have commited. Pretty simple.

Ralis? What are you talking about. This is the Buddhist view of intelligent sentient life in the universe, whether it be human or alien. It's a view that pivots on the assumption that Buddhist philosophy is correct in it's assertions of how mind streams are re-birthed through the karmic law exposed by the Buddha. If you are a Buddhist, this is part of the Buddhist comprehension. There's a cult going around that is convincing people that they don't have past lives, and that seeing through the 5 senses is the limit of human capacity. That the only joy is through sense fulfillment or intellectual stimulation. They broadcast their views through many different avenues, including TV, Radio, music, books, internet, news, movies. Have you come in contact with them? It's called popular, mass consumerist culture. It's quite obvious by now that you are not a student of Dzogchen. You use that as a kind of trick card Mr. Joker.

I wonder what her criteria was? Maybe she just didn't believe them as their experiences got deeper and deeper and they shared these experiences? She thought they were lying? I don't know, I'm just throwing that out there. It's good that you are objective about your subjectivity, that shows room for growth. I have met beings who suffer very little psychologically, to none at all through the practice of meditation. That's my experience. My Mom is one of them. Yes, you have to face all your BS, which can be quite aggravating rather than just letting your BS control you and remaining ignorant of it's far reaching effects. If one is being guided by a lineage, as is my own experience, you should be protected by an energy, and even when you are suffering these upheavals, you feel this depth of peace amidst it all. I've definitely not experienced an increase in depersonalization as well. I feel more entwined with the people around me, but also more centered within and less effected by what I am more sensitive to in reference to my senses and psychic awareness. I see and feel, but I'm also more internally sensitive to a space within that is free no matter what, even if I seem to be angry, it feels like that's merely a display more and more and doesn't really have so much power over me on a deeper level. Anyway... I've been up way too long again figuring out more business tactics. So, to sleep I go! Ciao. P.s. Thanks for the convo!

Yes, I think it more has to do with connecting and confidence.

Yes, it sounds like it! I'm going to look up those words, but I hope someone like Stigweard who knows the chinese version of that quote can show me the exact chinese word for that term. But, I'm going to look what you have shown me up. Thanks! Wu Wei just means flowing with nature though doesn't it? The word Wuji Chinese wuji 無極 "limitless; infinite" is a compound of wu 無 "without; no; not have; there is not; nothing, nothingness" and ji 極 "ridgepole; roof ridge; highest/utmost point; extreme; earth's pole; reach the end; attain; exhaust". In analogy with the figurative meanings of English pole, Chinese ji 極 "ridgepole" can mean "geographical pole; direction" (e.g., siji 四極 "four corners of the earth; world's end"), "magnetic pole" (Beiji 北極 "North Pole" or yinji 陰極 "negative pole; anode"), or "celestial pole" (baji 八極 "farthest points of the universe; remotest place"). Common English translations of the cosmological Wuji are "Ultimateless" (Fung and Bodde 1953, Robinet 2008) or "Limitless" (Zhang and Ryden 2002), but other versions are "the ultimate of Nothingness" (Chang 1963), "that which has no Pole" (Needham and Ronan 1978), or "Non-Polar" (Adler 1999). So, I like the translation, Wu = Without and Ji = Extreme so "without extreme" THE QUOTE: Saints are walking gardens filled with wish-fulfilling trees, and they are living villages of wish-fulfilling gems. Their words are like oceans of nectar. They are moons without blemish and suns without heat. May these saints be the friends of all people. - Jnaneshwar

Hi there, What's the Taoist term that refers to non-being please? Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule. Buddha

Ok, sure... buuut... What does this have to do with what I said?

Lucky, the difference between trying and being perceived as such is different. For me it's somewhat hard because I grew up in environments where people weren't sensitive to taunts and it wasn't like walking on egg shells where everyone is so fragile. I am working on being more socially acceptable in an environment quite opposite of my upbringing. That's difficult for me. I'm used to joking around with people without many buttons. Where it's not so much what you say that can set someone off, but how you say it. The people I've ended up around growing up and in working situations, you can talk about anything and tell them to their face your opinions as long as it's handled in a friendly fashion with certain balancing phrases, or tones of voice.

Very nice...

Well, it's better than eating your brains and harvesting your kids for slavery.

That's amazing!! Wonderful story. Ah! He must have been totally blown away by such a candid display of something other worldly.

Highest birth on Earth. Not the cosmos. Bieng born into a pureland would probably be the highest. There are Alien worlds with beings who are intelligent or even more so than human where they practice different forms of Buddhist teachings, even Dzogchen. ChNNR has mentioned meeting some of these beings.

Sometimes I refer to it as land locked.

That's probably the biggest challenge.

Thaats and amaaaazing feeling!! Especially when the Master reciprocates that feeling and there is this immediate psychic connection that leaves absolutely no room for doubt! Awesome!!

Yes, it's absolutely true that in Buddhism a human life IS considered special. You either waste it, or you don't. Ya dig!? So, if that's what you meant by absolute, then yes... it's an absolute according to the view of Buddhadharma and how hard it is to get a human body. Of course, the regular ol' person without memory due to being blinded by the void of the unconscious takes it for granted because for them, the birth into a human realm of existence will not be seen as an alternative to being born in any other way. For me of course, I feel that's a delusion that beckons questioning. I questioned this intensely as a young kid in Elementary school. "How come I'm not some other type of being like a bird or a dog?", "What truly makes me different from the animals and the bugs?" I think probably all kids do this, but I did come up with some conclusions, which I later found agreed upon by ancient and modern yogi's. Go figure!

Wonderful response Marble. I'm happy with it. Thanks broskii!!

I do agree. Only if accompanied with right view, or right intention. Scientists did a study on the brain waves of Buddhist mediators and they found that, they had higher capacity for focus, compassion, and happiness and are in fact the happiest people detected under the conditions of this study of brain waves. So, science say's that these cultivation practices are indeed not leading to nothing, but quite the opposite, very positive somethings. Wonderful! Yes, I wouldn't mind! Be fabulous!

I don't believe in unnatural either. But what natural is, is constantly being re-examined and re-theorized around by scientists. I don't think miracles are anything other than life itself. Of course things that occur due to metaphysical power and knowledge may be deemed a miracle to someone, but that's just natural stuff to me. There are countless "miracles" that are tucked away in files that people ignore due to the inability to accurately ascertain the causes through physical scientific apparatuses. I don't know what you are talking about, but I'm glad you found something that could work out a sense of complacency. True, it was probably all just a bunch of beliefs anyway. One has to have direct insight for such things as re-birth and interdimensional vision and experience and what not to actually work for one's state of peace. Well, you could be open to the possibility, right? You don't have to think about it all the time in a way that probably engenders frustration and obsession. But, to cut oneself off entirely due to a lack of remembered experience would be pretty narrow, don't ya think? I like to say... "Well... it might be true, but I won't let it bother me." Well that's different, those are actual historical fantasies, the others above are just beings from another dimension of existence which science is finding some truth in these days. Well, they don't have to be called heavens or hells, but to absolutely cut off the possibility of other worlds of existence in this vast universe would be pretty... self limiting. There certainly are some pretty intriguing proofs surrounding such things illuminating the real possibility that... yes you did. For instance, very young kids who remember graphic details of their past lives without any other source of information other than their own memories? Pretty convincing! Though I don't need convincing. Well... I bet if you were very nice to Bill Gates, he might manifest as that for ya, just once. Ah, there you go again, the word "natural" again, used in such a limiting fashion. What's natural? There is so much to what is natural... very complicated and not so cut and dry 5 sense limited. Basically physical reality, which is proven by science to be somewhat of an illusion of the 5 senses is the limit of your belief system? Sounds like you used to be quite the extremist. Now you went extreme the other direction to quite the conservative vision? I hope it suits you well for as long as you live. What if they are true and your answers are erroneous? One could be more open minded and agnostic about such limitations in criteria for reality. Well yes, you'd be right there my dear. I have the right to tell you that you are wrong! I hope that doesn't boil your blood. That doesn't mean that I'm right though. But, I feel that I'm more right than you are. That doesn't mean that you don't have the right to think that I'm delusional, because you do! No doubt! Didn't mean to get under your skin or chap your hide. It's all good buddy. It's all relative, just all in good fun and discussion, and expression of words.

Well, it's wrong, it's not actually what Buddhism or Hinduism teach. It's either the result of bad readings, or bad interpreting. Enlightenment is nothing different from regular life, except your free from the bad stuff, even while you experience it. To put it very, very simply. Also, absolutely everything is inspiring, not a darn thing can bring your state of mind down, there is no more sense of drab, or lack of inspiration. No more psychological suffering at all, and no more neurotic reactions, though one may play with it, there's no grasping to it, just dancing with it. The persons personality has reached it's highest potential of expression, inspiration and deep sense of freedom. No more sense of density. No more animating peanut butter as a body and no more intellectual or spiritual malaise... ever again!

Funny interpretation, highly inaccurate... a kind of popular inaccuracy, but I can't help but get a laugh when I hear it every time I do. Sorry, it's nothing against you... you probably just ran into some bad teachers and read some bad books.

What a depressing form of Buddhism you must have been under the sway of. Or at least your interpretation seems quite depressing. Well, everyone is ready for what they are ready for and not everyone is ready to understand the paths of higher potential discovery. If one is complacent and satiated with the common place roller coaster of pain into pleasure back to pain ride of life. Then... ride it... ride it well! I wouldn't say the greatest thing, as pleasure of the senses and emotions mixed with spiritual bliss is even better!

Ah, what a majority of human beings consider to be the limits of their experience. Limiting others by their own experiential excuse for such. Thinking that reality is as it's seen. The majority use a very small portion of their human potential, brain much less mind capacity. Conditioned by a majority consensus, deluded into thinking the 5 senses are the crucible of human experience. The illusion is a passing play, deemed real because of a lack of memory. Projecting delusion on those who don't fall for the lie most clutch to their chests out of fear of insolidity. Your senses lie to you Marble. Your habit patterns agree.

A drop in an endless ocean. But, a drop as a human form can experience beyond being merely this drop.

Yes, I made points about both possibilities. That you were thinking that we are projecting the idea of a human mind over the universe or just that the universe has morals. In Buddhism it's no to both. No... you constantly demonstrate the ability to interpret what I say in absolutes. It's like I have to put forth a whole collage of examples to show how relative everything is. I'd be writing for eons. I said in Buddhism, a human life is considered special, due to the possibility of Buddhahood. Not that most humans actually undertake this challenge, as most... if you study history, obviously do not. Is that clear enough for you? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence Ralis. The universe does not care if you are a Buddha or not, but you certainly will experience a difference. So, we act in accordance with how the universe works for the sake of experiencing our own liberation, or our inherent Buddhanature. Not because the universe cares or will punish us.