Vajrahridaya

HAAAAI YAAAA!!! There's a video somewhere that is sooo funny that I cannot find, but might not be appropriate to post anyway. But it's a Chinese video of a man and a women sex boxing in a Kung Fu... Oh I found it. Warning... if anyone here is abstaining from seeing nudie pics or pics of sexual conduct... please do not enter. Chinese Sexual Kung Fu video... Please see this in good fun and jest!!

Exactly!! Unless you subvert through dark intentions, or you have karmas latent in your unconscious that reflect this type of subverting. If you are on the right path... your chi energy is in alignment with universal flow, so your progression will be naturally healthy instead of contradictory.

Not Namdrol. He is a Lappon and a translator of Tibetan texts under sponsorship from the Sakya lineage, so I trust his information more than anyone I have met online.

Infinite wisdom and infinite compassion are both results of each other. We are not arguing that. We are arguing basically Zhentong vs. Rantong. If you read my Nagarjuna quotes and commentary in a post on the last page. This might clear up why we are debating this. I like debating with Lucky... he's a nice debater. Up the Bhumi ladder. Refine, refine, refine, integrate, integrate, integrate!

It's possible for those who have reached the first Bhumi or path of seeing who stick to their Samayas. Before that, renunciation of many types is quite necessary. From Bhumi one on you are learning integration and removing various subtle obstructions to full integration. So, one can integrate the state of high vision with all "normal" worldly activities but one's experience of these activities will be far from the "normal" capacity.

Wonderful!!

Because I think you are a mean spirited person and one of the most presumptuous people I've ever come across in my 10 years online. I am mostly not going to talk with you at all. But to clear up anyone elses mis-understandings. The drinking of alcohol when one is in Rigpa is considered an offering that helps Samaya breakers because Dzogchen is mostly about offering merit to other beings. It's also about going beyond one's limits and if in a high state, as Milarepa said after coming out of his meditation cave, having a sip of wine from a passing merchant I think? That one sip opened up his being and dropped many veils in perception worth more than meditating years in a cave. This is not from any normal persons state of awareness though. One by no means can have a dependency on Alcohol. Eating meat in a state of Rigpa is about intermingling one's mind intention of blessing with the karmic cycle of animals because mostly animals don't have the ability to transcend their karmas on their own, we take them on through this practice and promise to be their teachers once we attain Buddhahood and we chant mantras that revolve around this intention. It's all part of the Ganachakra Puja or simply Ganapuja and is traditional Dzogchen of which Dalai Lama is a humble Master. Before Dzogchen I was a strict Vegetarian from the intention of non-violence, and now I'm an occasional meat eater from the intention of helping mind streams caught in animal karma cycles. Being a vegetarian and now an occasional meat eater both arise from the intention and feeling of compassion. This is part of the ancient Dzogchen tradition of North India carried over into Tibet. These are not practices that can be undertaken by anyone without transmission of Rigpa. Unless that person is already enlightened through whatever method of course. One must feel these intentions and have some sort of subtle vision opened in order to make sense of this experientially. So, the Dalai Lama being an incarnation of Avalokateshwara eats the meat in order to make karmic connections with animal mind streams and help them into human rebirths and into the arms of the 3 jewels of the Buddha/Dharma/Sangha So, I doubt that you will be able to make sense of this Songs. Sadly. Though I hope for the day that you prove me wrong. If Ralis doesn't know this as well...?? I can only doubt the validity of any of his claims to be a student of ChNNR or Dzogchen. Both of you are some of the most mean spirited and presumptuous people I've ever come across on the internet. I'm sure both of you are many sided, but the only side I have seen from both of you is the backside... No matter how nice and understanding I've been... it all seems quite hopeless in the sense of having any sort of meaningful communication with either of you. p.s. Also... most of my comment that you quoted above was a joke. I've killed some fish before on a camp fishing trip off the bay of SF when I was about 13 or so. I felt genuine compassion and couldn't eat it. I was raised Vegetarian by my Hindu mother. If I were to be in the position of having to kill and eat meat, I would do it in the spirit of Dzogchen intention and feeling and in the spirit of the Native Americans and Bushmen.

Yes, I've heard this before. It's pretty cool with all that tongue snapping. Indeed. Thank you for that tid bit of information. I didn't know that.

Lucky is actually saying that there are infinite dreamers. Infinite "I's". Not one awareness substratum, but infinite all co-creating. He doesn't understand though that having the experience of the child rigpa is all he's describing, but having the experience of the mother rigpa is where one see's one's awareness as interdependent with all other streams of mind, therefore empty of inherent existence. It's a very subtle switch... to actually see how this makes sense. But anyway... he's not succumbing to the extreme of a one consciousness is all paradigm.

Premise of getting them? You mean reason, or how they get them? They get them through concentration techniques and exercises. For the sake of fulfilling mundane desires and gaining spiritual power for the sake of self aggrandizing. Some Thelema (Alyster Crolley) practitioners is one particular path that is sometimes abused in this fashion. In every tradition that I am familiar with in the East, it is known historically that there are plenty of demonic minded people that get these powers, or are once good yogi's but turn bad when they do get their powers and abuse them. Lots of fringe Shamanic traditions sometimes do this. There are plenty of Taoist Wizards that are known to do this, Tibetan Bon Wizards, Hindu Yogi's gone bad, Buddhist practitioners gone bad. Voodoo practitioners. Sometimes people get them through taking an herb or drug, then discipline their experience of them for the sake of self aggrandizing. Plenty of "thug" pot heads who use marijuana in this way.

As awareness becomes more subtle and one starts seeing how connections work in general, how inner and outer schematics loose the experience of density, become more non-dual, one automatically gains access to higher potentials in the brain and mind/chakra system.

He's actually quite right from a light magic perspective when you are working with Chi in alignment with enlightened beings from beyond or living who assist in how the energy is working with you. They help the energy assist repair of neurotic behavior patterns, energy ailments and mis-alignments, then assist in the blossoming of super normal powers with the backbone of virtue so that they are aids in both your ability to offer help and understand how things work directly through the opening of the subtle senses. So that one doesn't use these powers in selfish ways that will only harm one's karma. In dark magic, they go straight for the powers without healing neurotic patterns first because the intent is selfish to begin with.

Out of curiosity Marble. What are your favorite shows?

Wonderful!

Sorry more off topic. Me too, for content and screen shots, but I think some of the acting was a little... eh... But yes. It's a movie I own and have seen many times.

Nice... I think we do in Vajrayana though and Traditional Tibetan Medicine, but I couldn't tell you details though I know people that could.

So, you are saying that luminosity is not empty. See, in my understanding of experience and Buddhology, luminosity is a result of consciousness being aware of emptiness, so the experience arises dependent upon the insight of emptiness/dependent origination. In my understanding of what you are saying, you are through and through Zhentong. Wiki link to explanation. I can understand this view, but I don't agree. When I think of dependent origination and apply it to awareness as well... I feel more clarity and a subtler bliss. But... there are plenty of great Tibetan Masters who I fully respect and who's realizations are far more developed than mine who were Zhentong, though most Tibetan Masters are Rangtong. Anyway... Nice thoughts!

OMG!! Thanks for that!!

Oh wait... I totally didn't read the story. Ok... Now I'm going to read the story. I was selectively reading through spontaneous glimpses here and there without any goal in mind and saw these two posts and that's it. I'm going to give time to this story... sounds cool!

Oh I see. We'll I do it but once to a few times a year. I do it and my Mom helps interpret it as she is quite the Master at I-Ching divination interpretation. Hehe.. I've got good Momma karma.

Real happiness is a cold beer, my guru on my mind and my arm wrapped around my girls waist. No really... I like these two answers here...

I agree. It's called avoiding the issue. Spiritual responsibility is the absolute hardest and most detail oriented form of responsibility that one can have for oneself and the world. The tendency to want to fall into the error correction error syndrome of external blame is all too easy because our awareness is for the most part pouring out of our senses. Which is why sitting meditation and retreats are highly recommended in most any spiritual path. So that we can just consciously be with ourselves. A sane person can sit in a closet with the lights off for any amount of time and be at peace. The problem is, is that most of us are insecure, neurotic and somewhat insane to a certain degree, even if it's a socially acceptable level of insanity amongst a metropolis of insane people.

Thanks for thanking! It certainly is and took me some time to see that. One can experience Rigpa in endless ways. But, I think to contextualize it in a way that allows for it's continual experiencing and deepening recognition and integration and so one doesn't fall into an extreme view about the experience and end up merely in a formless cling, that dependent origination is the ultimate salve. Which is why even after transmission, one should read your Rinpoche's books and his Precious Vase to get a good healthy context for the experience. Guru Yoga is great and powerful, but if you don't understand it's how's and why's, then most likely... you're not going to do it. You too Rex. I do agree with what Pero said... and we can see the fruit of sharing too much of the more personal type of information on a public board, with me as an example.

I think if you understand your inner happiness that seems for no reason but is actually based on certain spiritual subtleties... then it's not going to be at the mercy of external and even psychic attacks. When one understands the metaphysics of happiness and knows how to work the energy within in order to maintain that inner space of purity and joy, then I think it's better than the ambiguous basing it on "nothing"... but... I do know what you mean and I was going to say that.