Vajrahridaya

Lordy... ok now... I'm not a magician. But... look into my eyes.... looooook deeeeeep into my eyes.... you will see dependent origination circulating inside of me... undulating and pulsating deep within me... Ok, enough of that.

Your so subjective. Your a fake yogi. You have no insight, just passionate self centeredness which you mistake for some sort of wisdom? Your so full of yourself and the shit that you project into the world that comes back to you like a mirror that most of the things you say aren't worth the memory these posts are saved on. The Lama said to obliterate your self-centeredness, not yourself. Meaning, get over yourself Moron. Oh grand master knower of every persons inner workings!! Stupid people like you spout these foolish remarks made famous by ignorant new agers who just don't know better because they've gotten everything in a watered down form. Statements like this come off as violent and extreme without any wisdom behind them and are spoken by fools such as you to make them seem cool and down to earth, but really it's more times than not, the worst thing someone can say on an open forum when it comes to the Buddhas sacred teaching. The statement, "Kill the Buddha" is meant as a way to remove a deep practitioners ignorance and attachment to their already deeply expansive concept and experience of the Buddha which happens only when you have actually taken refuge in the triple jewel for many, many years and meditated on the teachings of the Buddha for a very long time, then your Zen Master may say something like this to you. But, you haven't taken any refuge in anything other than your own ego and it's delusional version of spirituality and all your own egotistical judgments of others, that for you to say such a thing in the way you do without any real deep knowledge of Buddhas teachings is preposterous and just shows that your an imposture. p.s. I'm not usually this mean. Goldisheavy has been running around giving his egotistical view on everyones state of mind and being for so long. His view on teachers is without an ounce of humility yet he considers himself a knower and a giver of truth, when he hasn't even taken refuge in a proper and humbling way.

LOL! May all Taoists see past mysterious ambiguity into objective clarity.

It's the conceptual position of the inward interpretation of experience deemed as "oneness." So yes, your words revolve around the comprehension of a monist view.

WOW! I swear I saw a movie about this!

Sounds like dependent origination, as in Chi originates dependently and does not have a unique and ultimate self, in and of itself.

It's not an existent, an ineffable intangibleness. It's a quality of being, and all beings are interdependent, therefore empty of any sort of inherent existence and only exist due to mutual dependence so are relative. Due to the empty quality of all things and consciousness, there is movement, dynamic because there is no stasis. The experience of timelessness is merely an experience of a potency of consciousness but is not a true existent beyond concept. The experience of emptiness is expanded consciousness where one is able to see how things work together directly without having to think about it, it's a direct insight that leads the mind to be luminous and clear, so wisdom is the same as cognizance in this recognition. So, emptiness is not a source, but really just a quality that does not itself have qualities as it's not a true existent. It's just for instance the wetness of water or the illuminating power of light.

Doing practice during your sleep state is actually considered hundreds of times more potent because your dealing directly with the subconscious and unconscious mind and consciously illuminating these levels of deep mental caverns. Like subconscious spelunking.

If Tao is the emptiness of the mutual dependency of yin/yang then maybe we're getting closer to a mutual ground here between Buddhism and Taoism. But, then we get into this stuff and it all sounds very familiar to me having studied lots of Vedanta. It sounds like an intellectual excuse for an un-substantive substratum. As in a formless and complete non-conceptuality that is the source of all observables and observability...?

Very good, that is the definition of the word.

I think this shows why in Buddhism the path of the bodhisattva is pronounced. Because if one is going to attain liberation for the sake of all beings, then one is going to work on their virtue through the stages. When the realization of non-abiding self occurs and one is not in a state of grasping and is all wu-wei where no more karmas are made, just the accumulation of the turn around, as in the merits, then one's inner realization is reflected through the ornamentation of the virtues; Compassion, altruism, loving kindness, appropriateness, etc. But, many times this is not a virtue and a way of showing bondage, depending on the audience, so then there is this "crazy wisdom" dance that some "enlightened masters" do which breaks people out of the bondage of dualistic thought patterns and attachments as well as dualistic ideas of virtue. Like sometimes a slap in the face can be more virtuous, shocking someone out of their murk with much more effectiveness than a calm... "please don't do that". Sometimes we are not in a position to judge what someone who is beyond dualistic notions does. It's really about the energy and the inner intentions of the being doing the action. One never knows what sort of karmas that being is burning by acting like a nut case. But training in conventional wisdom is definitely part of the bodhisattva path. It's just that as virtue becomes more and more internalized and is not bound by external ritual or assumptions, then sometimes the force of wisdom which takes in a vast amount of information on a level that transcends thought knows better than conventional virtue. But, sometimes convention is just what the doctor ordered because it attracts people to the path of wisdom. Wow, look how ordered that person is, look how good that person acts in the face of danger, look how calm of a demeanor. Etc. All pretty attractive. But, the closer a student gets to depth perception, the more strange a teacher may act sometimes in order to help the student get over their limited view of "now". Since a liberated being bases their sense of now on a vastly wider arena of data, they may attempt to bring the student to that data through a more dynamite like fashion. But if anyone else, like the mass populous of limited perception bags were to catch wind of these actions...? uh oh. Witch hunt!!

ya ko.

Quite monist of ya. Ooops, I meant to say how modest of ya.

No, I'd feel blessed! Honestly... As Stigweard said, please illumine us!

cyber chastity garter.

Coming on version 2.0 our comic relief addition to test if we are taking ourselves too seriously from the one and only... "The Songs of Distant Earth."

Yes, in Buddhism there is no universal mind that is the essence of all things. There is only realization of the universal process that is without a transcendent universal essence, but the Buddha realization is itself transcendent. So, I do agree... it is different. Taoism is different from Buddhism and Buddhism is different from all other spiritual traditions which posit a truly existent source of all things that is singular, shines from it's own side and is universal. Buddhism does see a universal truth though and that is endless relativity. p.s. transcendent as in beyond the regular mundane persons vision of the world, as any other spiritual traditions claim.

Nope, it doesn't, because all the branches have the 4 noble truths, the 8 fold noble path, and dependent origination at its basis. All that differs are interpretations of the realizations of these basic universal Buddhist elements.

How wonderful!

Yes, of course, except Taoism doesn't seem to have any real definitive source of interpretation as there are so many versions that differ very widely. Tyler, Please ask a specific question and you'll get a specific answer. Thank you.

However you want it to. You either get into Buddhism objectively, or you extrapolate what you want from it and make up your own interpretation.

You are the one that replied to my above post not mentioning Taoism at all in a thread entitled What makes Buddhism different, not entitled the differences between Buddhism and Taoism! You are so subjective... seriously, you are.

No, not sexual, I had the thought that someone might misinterpret that. It had to be you! Of course!! But this time you actually have an excuse... It does sound like that. No, I mean I get all soft, super relaxed and teary eyed when I listen to that version of the Om Mani Padme Hum, not all sexual. Sheesh!

Yes, it takes a deep and humble discernment. That's for sure!! As if I knew...

Of course he did, as there are many mentions of this transcendent mind transmission beyond words in the scriptures. People just felt at peace around him. Of course others wanted him dead because he spoke against the popular Brahman order and the Vedas.