Vajrahridaya

I would expect such a response from a mere intellectual without direct insight into spiritual truths and subtle energetic dimensions? Hmmmm... Oh well. **** me then.

I am quite aware of the psychic subtitles that went on in the situation. I saw the light, experienced it... embraced it and relaxed into it. I was always in it, even as he cut my finger when I struggled to get away... it was a very interesting experience. I also felt him feel it. But, thanks for trying to diminish me. p.s. my wallet contained 4 credit cards, a food stamp card, all of which he saw and my pockets had another 30 dollars which he didn't check. His entire demeanor changed as well and there was a visible light that suffused the entire situation. I guess you had to be there,

If the teacher is a master of the teaching or method that is to be taught, then yes they do. How is it compassionate to teach someone something that will damage them because they aren't ready for it, or will abuse the method and energy of it's lineage?

Actually was totally dead downtown and on the beach. I went out for an hour, got one 55 dollar tour and came home. Very easy night!

Twinner, stop acting like some Buddha. You don't have the proper insight to judge anything of me. Yes, of course I need more practice... wow... so do you. Mr. high horse Aaron. Leave me be. You are in no position to guru anyone, and neither am I. All I try to talk here is philosophy as I'm in no position to be a guru of methods even though I know tons. I will sometimes offer some basic practices that I had done for years which worked for me. Do the same and stop thinking you understanding my intentions with any real validity.

I used to do sitting practice for 4 to 6 hours, sitting, not in my sleep. Now I do practice in my sleep if I wake up in my sleep. It's called lucid dreaming and it's a real Dzogchen practice. I do internal mantra meditation all or most of the day, every day these days working with various mantras and visualizations, even while working on my pedicab.

Very true. As far as keeping certain practices secret until a person is ready, I think its very important.

Any type of breath meditation would be considered passive. Active forms of meditation are forms of detailed visualisation, mantra with visualisation or mudra (hand postures) or bandhas (body locks/chakra locks and forced prana manipulation) The kind of meditation you are doing can take you very, very deep. Doing breath meditation for an hour and a half after 3 hours of intense devotional chanting took me to very many places and opened up many levels of my psychi and the universe to me automatically. I'd suggest you keep going with the breath meditation but focus on the space between the in and out breath inside the body.

Actually thousands of texts survived and you'd know that if you read any autobiographies by Tibetan Masters. Why not read, "Blazing Splendor"? Just to start... that might help.

Have you been to some of the various heaven realms in meditation? Have you been into formless Samadhis beyond the body? Can you still your mind at will and then hear the chatter in other peoples minds? You have hardly read many of my posts Ya Mu. Ok, so you claim to know it, but you don't by your statement. There are a few forms of Ku Nye but it's definition is (Wylie: sku mnye), which literally means "massage of the subtle body". Part of the training in Ku Nye requires knowledge of the meridians or lung (winds/prana) channels. Yes, it is energy based through the body. I know practitioners of it and one master of it, ChNNR's (Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoches) sister.

Wow Aaron... There is no animosity calling stupidity by it's name, and stupid means lack of intelligent thought, period! Feel yourself some more.

Thanks so much Zerostao and LS7!! Thanks... so much. So does peoples compassion hit me over the head with more umph!

No it doesn't... you are all a part of my practice. Thanks for testing me, and pushing my buttons, thanks for showing me the depth of compassion that is needed to deal with people of varying capacities and traditions on a mental basis. Thanks so much for all your years of sarcasm and judgement ralis and songs. Thank you! Also... I have a tendency for lucid dreaming and practice during my sleep. I also mostly do mantra practice these days, all day into the night, and time to time specific dzogchen practices during different phases of the moon.

I did point to practical examples, including readings on various Buddhist Tantric Masters. I doubt that you've been exposed to Vajrayana Buddhist forms of Yoga. Yantra Yoga and Trul Khor is not merely physical in nature... neither is ku nye yoga and massage, as these are also energy forms. So again, yes, you haven't read any of my posts. I'm wasting my time. I know these exist... the goal of Buddhism is not any of this though... these are all paths that are good, but do not lead to ultimate liberation from samsara. Buddhisms goal is not to feed the hungry, this is just a side effect of good people with food to give in any tradition. I don't know what you are asking. If you want examples of enlightenment in Buddhism... I've dropped links. You are not reading them. So yes, I'm being condescending because you keep asking questions that have been answered. Actually, the word mind means much more in Buddhism than I think you are aware. The mind is not merely thoughts... there are many levels, including the alaya vijnana or storehouse consciousness, there are many mental sheaths or bodies. The same word has different meanings according to different contexts. If you are not interested in learning from someone who knows about this material... then don't bother asking. Please just move on and continue with your practice... I wish you well.

I think you mentally compare your taoist practice with chan/zen practice... maybe? Vajrayana Buddhism or Tantric Buddhism sitting practice is far from passive, though there are passive forms, there are many, many active forms... as mentioned above.

hatha yoga is in my opinion not as deep as buddhist yantra yoga. Of which you'd have to read a book about as it's technique is deeply reaching within. You're right... there are deviations and I find Buddhism to be deeper. This opinion you might suggest is subjective, though I think it's an objective opinion. Just as you would think the opposite. I think you would have to study what I have studied though before you made such an opinion. I am familiar with neigong and I think it's very deep, but not as deep as yantrayoga and vajrayana and it's philosophy and methods in general. Take care!! I do wish you well... as neigong is amazing anyway... I think that's an objective opinion if none of my other ones are.

I also did years of hatha yoga, then yantra yoga every single day Ya Mu on top of the hours of sitting practice, that was not all passive, much is included, including chanting of mantra which transforms mind and body energy, mudra which transforms mind and body energy and calm internalizing of awareness through the layers of subtle bodies that are behind the physical body. Yes, there is a difference... many of the Taoist practices seem to be centered merely around the physical body and physical energy only. I'm not saying all do... but many seem to be quite epidermic and lack depth. These epidermic or topical practices are important on one level, but do not and will not lead to true insight into the nature of things by themselves and are to be seen merely as a support for deeper mind practice as mind should be the emphasis when it comes to a truly honest spiritual tradition. You have received no specific info. because you didn't read my posted links...

Ya Mu... you are increasingly exposing yourself as one of the people who are not here to learn anything. I have posted links to reading material, to sites on Kunye massage and the 84 mahasiddhas and a bit of their life stories written about on a site that has plenty of their poetry. I can post sites on various Yoga forms in Buddhism like this one... Yantra Yoga. But you people don't click on these links... ?? Why do you ask if you're not honestly interested in learning?? Concrete examples? Do you want me to pay for a flight for you to go to a charity ran by Buddhists somewhere where you can see Buddhists feeding flocks of poor and hungry people? Oh yes... sorry... I'm one of those poor people, so I can't afford to do so. The emphasis is on the mental because it's the basis for the body, the body arises from the mental as it's cause on subtler planes. The energy of the body can be manipulated by the state of mind. The physical yogic techniques are all there as well to support the transformation of mind. Also, the mind is what goes as "you" after the body dies, so the state of mind at death is paramount! I don't understand systems that emphasis the body! That makes absolutely no sense when the path is a spiritual path! The body is secondary to mind, not primary... the body will die, the mind will not. The mind wears bodies like clothes, lifetime after lifetime. So bens question revolves around his very little understanding of the mind and is more a revelation of his attachment to body consciousness as a form of spirituality? I really don't think you even read any of the rebuttals with any sense of openness... :lol: WOW!! Yes, there are all sorts of beliefs and the people that follow them and continue to project and learn nothing.

I didn't specifically say anybody concerning exposure to Buddhism... I said, "MAYBE" a lot of you, so no need to react. Also... I've mentioned many times and in many places throughout the years here on TTB that I had committed to 4 to 6 hours of sitting practice for years, sometimes more per day in previous years, including fasting and days of a vow of silence amongst crowds with a pen and paper to write messages for people so that I could stay silent, lived in ashrams at different times for a total of about 4 or a little more years... etc. etc. So I did. The rest is not rambling to me, so won't be interpreted as rambling as I write it, by me.

Aw.... you just made me cry... Seriously... thanks so much sweetness!! Whew..... whew.... whew.... Om Ah Hum. p.s. not kidding about the cry part...

One of the driving vehicles is the arising of bliss... such as what you've been experiencing, and relaxing even deeper into it through breath and exploring it within your body, and brain within your body and subtle body and subtler body... through the layers by subtlifying awareness.

Like I said in a previous post here SONGS... There are plenty of examples in Taoism for Dependent Origination that do not make the Tao some sort of independent originator of the cosmos, some sort of uncaused platform or supreme source of all things in and of itself. I've seen some people who claim to be Taoist who see the Tao as merely "the way of movement" on all levels. So...

Then you are the perfect example of my comment above and I knew from the very beginning of your intention. You are not even close to interested in learning... your question was just a fishing ploy. You never really read a single post made here by the Buddhists with honest openness, you haven't learned more than that which solidified your current understanding. Typical sarcastic Songs... So sad. Don't worry... I won't suffer you. I send you blissful compassion though... maybe you'll come around someday. Take care.

I've been saying for quite some time that Taoism is the most compatible system with Buddhism that I've come across and I've studied all of the major ones, including some little known shamanistic ones.