Vajrahridaya

It can be in states of refined consciousness transcending popular definitions of brain limitations. As I said, there are layers to consciousness and perception and our consciousness is not limited to the brain. Or rather there are different dimensions of conscious experience and awareness refined and illumined through spiritual practice can perceive deeper and more expanded dimensions through space.

Consciousness is not mechanistic. How you got Newtonian, is beyond me. You must have not really read what I wrote and not felt what was being referenced, due to not having an internal context. Not a surprise.

Ok, sounds good to me!

Time is just motion and motion is the activity of consciousness. This has never not existed, so even coming to a point of experiencing no time is based on the flow of time, which is the activity of consciousness. Most consciousness' (plural) activities are based upon clinging or craving, and the activity of enlightened consciousness or consciousness that is self illumined is based upon compassion for these other consciousness' that are active based upon craving. So, really there never has been no time, just the experience of beyond time, which is based upon the fact of time, which is really just motion. So, I'm not really talking necessarily about linear time, as there are all sorts of dimensions of motion; conscious, subconscious and unconscious. For a yogi who illumines the unconscious, other layers of motion become illumined, or other dimensions of time. Even the experience of transcending motion while in motion. There really is no such thing as nothing. There is also not a no-time, as these negations are based on the fact of their opposite. Just as the present moment has so many layers and one is actually only aware of it through the motion of it, even for the senses, we are actually seeing a moment that's already gone, much like the light of stars is perceived, as we know much of that light is reaching us from a sun that's already dead, so we are seeing the past. You can meditate and get into a formless state of nothingness, but this only exists due to the opposite, there really is no nothingness... we are just manifesting it through a particular type of focus. All these concepts are empty and unreal, including empty and unreal. They have no inherent basis. No-time is not any more real or true than time. Non-existence is not any more true than existence. There really is only time and there really is only existence, so one has to sew the right seeds and use time for the best, as there will always be a new moment arising based upon the previous, and this is so since time without beginning. There will never be a time when existence does not exist, even if you get in a state where for you or a group of beings in agreement there doesn't seem to be existence, as this too shall pass... and one will have to take up the responsibility of utilizing time and motion once again. Yes, as Lucky7strikes said, It's more about what is perception and what is consciousness and how can one make the activity of consciousness and perception beneficial to one and all.

Actually, as he said, he was free from the conditions that define one as human, even though he appeared as one. He was perfect in his attainment of ultimate peace and freedom from psychological suffering. All the other ideas of perfection are merely projections. "Oh... he's not perfect because he turned and his robe knocked over the vase." But then who knows if the vase would have been knocked over by someone else and maybe stubbed someone's toe later? His manifestation in every moment was congruent with what would benefit endless others, and that action may or may not seem to be perfect from the perspective of someone not in that situation, or without as deep of an insight into the continuity of causation as a Buddha? I'm just saying, perfection in the spiritual sense has very little to do with our mundane ideas of perfection. Even though, an enlightened being would most likely come closer to that mundane idea of perfection than those who are flailing through life, confused by chaos. A Buddha is perfect in the sense that they've perfected their inner state of peace and freedom from psychological suffering, even if physical suffering arises or situations of contention and friction arise, a Buddhas state of peace remains perfect and unperturbed, even if it doesn't appear so from the outside. In all the stories about the Buddha, the one fact remains... he was always peaceful and people experienced this around him. Even when he was acting in a fiery way.

Why should one bend to ideas that are not conducive to the ultimate state of peace? The ultimate, and perfected state of freedom from psychological suffering? By not bending to other peoples ideas that were not conducive to the highest peace, and remaining peaceful in doing so, he revealed to these people where they're ideas were erroneous, thus he was serving them and pointing them to their own higher capacity for peace. It serves no one to bend to erroneous ideas about the nature of things.

As you can't help taking a jab at me, every chance you get. What can one expect? I saw you coming a mile away.

Hmmm.... as far as I know, that's not a Buddhist goal. When and where did the Buddha say to stop thinking? When and where did the Buddha say to deny suffering? Buddhism requires intuitive thinking, investigative thinking, logical thinking tempered with intuitive emotional thinking. More so than most other paths that say going into a state of trance or no-thought is enlightenment. Also, the denial of suffering would be repression, and no where in any form of Buddhism is that a goal. It's about understanding it's root causes from within. If a person is psychologically suffering, they will not be able to see themself or others objectively, because the psychological suffering will veil the possibility of direct insight, as it contracts and limits a persons state of mind. This can be understood directly through meditation and contemplation. Now, there is empathy and appropriate action when one is not directly afflicted with psychological suffering and it's associated contracted mind state. Only then can one truly serve this manifestation from the highest perspective or state of mind. The path of the Bodhisattva has never been one of non-action, no thinking, or denial, but of insight, mindfulness, empathy, understanding and right action. Right action is number 4 in the 8 fold path of Buddhist cultivation. There's also number 2. Right Intention, and 3. Right Speech as well as 7. Right Mindfulness. I don't see any teachings in the Buddhist Cannon that supports no-thinking and non-action.

Psychic powers kind of suck in my opinion. Love is waaaaay better! Telepathy is probably one of the most annoying and possibly the most poisoning for the mind of a practitioner. But, if you are not a practitioner and not interested in love, peace and happiness, then telepathy might help you get a lot of the mundane things people in our society generally want. Anyway... I'd go for love over all psychic powers.

Well, thank goodness that we're not "one" then. We are connected though. So yes, Xabir killing someone will lead to a chain of events that effects more than just him, but on different levels, only because we are all connected. But, because we are not "one", we will not experience the karma of killing someone to the same degree that the killer will. Sorry Xabir, I know you would never consciously kill someone, but this is just an example. The idea that we are all "one" ultimate thing is incompatible with Buddhist realization. It's in fact, considered a trap, even if blissful, still a trap and won't lead to complete realization or the nature of ones mindstream, so the identification with oneness will limit ones wisdom and insight. It's a sweeping generalization and can impede deeper investigation. As being awake to things is seeing into their details. Now, all Buddhas are "one" in intention, or "one" in the realization of the nature of things, but they are not "one" grand thing. Though they have all equally realized the dharmakaya, the dharmakaya is merely the realization of the empty and mutable nature of all things, including oneself. So the dharmakaya as well is not established as a supreme source of everything, or "one thing" that all things are, thus is not an "atman." It's merely the ultimate insight into everything. Though, if an individual realizes the Dharmakaya, they will know what their "atman" (self) is and what their ultimate and relative "dharma" is. I do agree that there is individual karma, group karma, national karma, racial karma... etc. Take care!

Nicely put. Yes, I was thinking more along the lines of there is also the field of the ajna chakra and having endless knowledge. I've experienced smelling things from long distance, remote viewing... things like this. What does that which I underlined mean? No, just kidding... I get it.

It's experience and no, the heart is not the only field without limit.

Because you didn't feel the sincerity, doesn't mean it was fake. Your dimension of experience is determined by your own state of mind and perception. Life is kind of like looking into the mirror.

All good, love the towering mountains. But, I think you were focusing on the wrong thing and picked up on the reflection of that focus. Really... I would have been one of those people with a devotional smile on my face and pressed prayer hands, actually feeling the vibe of evoking blessings from historical Buddhas. I know this to be true, as I've been around these things and experienced just that when people with no connection spoke like you and felt like you, thinking it true and those of use experiencing inspiration and devotion as charlatans and fakes. Ah! Those that judge without knowing the truth? You are very blessed to have been to Nepal and the Vajrayana monasteries... How nice!

No, not in that area. I was talking about El Rancho. Where my dog was shot dead by one of those drive by shootings, and where one night a drunk native drove into the back of our house, causing lots of damage. These shootings in El Rancho are not gang related, just drinking and guns related. Most of the Mexicans in El Rancho at that time were all hunter types, including most of my friends fathers, either that or war vets. I grew up in that area shooting all sorts of guns... at cans of course. So, no, not exaggerating. Also that area on Duran St. in Santa Fe during the early 90's and surrounding projects and houses had tons of house robberies, one week there were over 30 house robberies reported in that area. If it wasn't for our dog at that time, our house would have been robbed, as we heard them trying to break in on more than one occasion. Plus... the gangs did not get broken up, come on! They were still dealing crack and mota in the projects off of West San Francisco St. Don't believe the hype, ever! Like when they said that the bloods and crips called a truce in South Central, LA. Gangs can't get broken up without removing the desperation and poverty, as well as the spiritual emptiness prevalent in such areas. The West Side Locos and East Side Locos are still doing there thing. Not so bad in Santa Fe though, not nearly that bad actually compared to places I lived in San Francisco, Oakland or NY. Santa Fe is quite tame. Though, when I lived on Airport Rd, in a warehouse, where we used to throw huge parties around 94' to 95'. We used to get invaded by the gangs in the nearby area, and they'd start huge fights that ended up with lots of severe injuries, including kids taking apart the fence outside and whacking each other with the parts. Not very good, so we only threw 2 of these parties as both ended up the same way. Still... yes, Santa Fe is quite tame. But, you can throw a Gang Leader in jail but not his connections to the outside world and his homies. It's just the reality of the thing. Having a mob boss in jail doesn't stop the mob.

I don't think things in this realm are really all that balanced, there are areas of balance and unbalance. We attempt to balance in various mistaken ways and end up harming environments. This particular dimension of experience called Earth is I think out of balance from one perspective, and totally in balance from another. One can have a long discussion about this... Anyway... yeah... I think we balanced it out by talking about it.

No will of it's own, our experience would merely be determined by the flow of inter-dependence, inter-karmic relations, etc. Vastly more complex than it can ever be explained. But, I really think it's a mistake to project theism or an ultimate personality over the Tao. As if my enlightenment is decided by a super cosmic being in control of all processes! Whoo, hoo!! I wish! But, impossible and merely fantastical. One can find out for oneself through self transcendence in meditation and contemplation in various states of birds eye view of varying degrees of depth/hight/width.... expansion.

Wow, I was getting this sense of magical-ness tonight (on that purely sparkly tip)! How exciting!

That video was hilarious and kind of sad too. Though I've seen it before... on Facebook if I recall? The Tao has it's own separate will?

He's just speaking to me in my own language.

Seriously holms, your loco. I'm from the barrio esse... Mission St. Nortenio side in San Francisco and Ecelsior St. Mob neighborhood, as well as what used to be the slums of El Rancho near Pojoaque before they turned the old saggy roofed adobe houses into cookie cut houses for rich vacationers and paved the roads, back when the closest store were liquor stores, and when we used to burn our trash in the middle of the compound (80's) and the chicanos would role down the st. shooting up the area or crashing into your house, drunk, as well as West San Francisco St. projects in Santa Fe across from De Vargas Mall on the heaven and hell tunnels in the arroyo side. I used to try to sleep to the Lota Burger intercom saying, "number 44, your orders ready" in that typical New Mexican accent. So, for the Chicanos... it's not offensive. I'm an honorary wero chicano, vato. :lol: Ah, just some joking around from my past. The vast majority of my friends were Mexican during the years of 1st through high school and I even still have a tinge of my earlier influence which shows up in my accent, which is kind of a cross between New Yorker and Barrio Mexicano. Ala Verga Holms... go drink a cervesa and chill out broe! :lol:

Hi GIH, I agree, it reveals how the illusion of solidity is merely that. It grants a deeper sense of life's transparency as well as it's clear and inter-connected, uninterruptedness. These experiences only occurred through intense practice, at first... then they started happening spontaneously as I contemplated my own states of mind, both high and low with open and detached investigation, generally through a process of letting go or fire burning. Sometimes I would spontaneously fall into a state of meditation, anywhere... maybe Barns & Noble on Broadway on the UWS and have a clear vision or complete re-experiencing of a circumstance that unraveled the mystery of a particularly extreme knot of some sort in my subconscious... loosening attachment to it's arising. For those without these direct re-experiencings', where it's more like time travel than the common memory... it's easy to try to encapsulate them into an intellectual dismissal to give truth to ones own lack of this type of perception. I truly appreciate your wisdom in not reacting in this way. It reveals a sense of openness that is generally uncommon (as in general society), as you probably are already aware. Which is why your wife probably digs ya man!

You have fun with your projections now... ya hear? I really do wish you well ralis.

Consider the leg pulled as well as the possibility of the noxious fumes of egotistical reactions.... abated!