Vajrahridaya
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Subjective idealism deals with reifying the mind, as if the mind is the only one to surely exist and one's experience of a transcendent, beyond the skandas mind, or ultimate subject is what he seems to be reifying? It's clear from what the Buddha said that this is not what is meant by unborn, uncompounded, etc. There is nothing beyond dependent origination, as the Buddha said, because dependent origination is already beyond itself. It is the all, and to see this is to see the all and is to see Buddhahood, as the Buddha said. It's not merely a model, it's extremely subtle and profound, while being quite blatant and everything that is right in front of your nose as well. He's really just Zhentog view. Zhentog Which is fine, there is lots of support in Vajrayana texts for this, but there are more texts that talk about it being an erroneous interpretation of experience leading only to formless absorption at the end of life or at the end of a cosmic aeon. Which I agree with. His realization is subtle, yes... I don't think anyone here would be qualified to say otherwise. But, I would just suggest getting some confirmation because self foolery is very subtle and he's never received pointing out instructions which he thinks he doesn't need. But, if he's a Mahasiddha, then it wouldn't matter... it's just a suggestion. From his descriptions he seem's to just be making a formless jhana ultimate. But, the way he's internalizing the concepts he's using will be different from the way I am reading them. It's extremely hard to communicate enlightenment through words on an impersonal computer screen. It's much easier in person.
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Yes, I agree.
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Still sounds like transcendent subjective idealism. The state of the crystal clear light is neither undivided nor divided, neither white, nor any color, nor not other than all colors, is neither formless nor form, but not other. Is neither transcendent nor imminent. Anyway... You seem to be reifying the state of the light of infinite consciousness as being beyond the skandas only because you don't experience duality of the skandas in that state. That doesn't matter. It's still merely due to turning awareness onto it's consciousness and focusing there that one would reify awareness. This leads to absorption into a formless state at the time of death or at the end of a cosmic aeon. This is not Nirvana according to Buddhism. Look, from following you, you seem to turn all your perceptions and thoughts into light, you are pretty lit up. It's good, very good. But, you might want to drop the pride, which can get in the way of objectivity when considering yourself and others. You might want to drop your pride enough to get some confirmation on your realizations. Since you like Mahamudra, why not check out Garchen Rinpoche. Just for the heck of it? Take a drive to Arizona where he mostly resides. He was jailed by the Chinese for 20 years but did internal practice the entire time and came out more enlightened than when he went in. He's considered a Mahasiddha, with all the siddhi's and realizations of Mahamudra Mahasiddhas. Why not... you're already enlightened, why not hang out with another Mahasiddha and check it out? You can check out his movie: For the benefit of all beings. But, you'd probably do much better with seeing him in physical presence and having a chat with him. He's very playful, very nice guy.
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The seeing and hearing is the activity of the mind perceiving without clinging. He's not talking about the things, or just being the senses per say, one is engaged but self liberated. Of course there is still a mind, it just sees through itself.
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Does the reincarnated Lao Tzu or Lord Buddha need an energy transmission?
Vajrahridaya replied to tulku's topic in General Discussion
It doesn't matter if your mind stream beyond body is bliss upon bliss in insight, as you are still born with a physical brain that needs to be molded by the proper physiological conditions in order to manifest that potential in this reality. -
Nihilism in Buddhism is in reference to those that think they don't exist after the death of the body. Eternalism is the ideation in reference to a conceptual model or an experiential one of an absolute existence. Nihilism and Eternalism as they appear in Buddhism have to be contextualized by it. It's not the same as Western philosophical definitions.
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Trapped in the senses and the peace of the lower jhanas of mental stillness. You deny insight into the causes and conditions of your arising and you cling to existence as absolute. It doesn't seem that you have explored your unconscious.
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So much clinging... So much projectioning.
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Your response arose due to causes and conditions. Even the experience of the unconditioned arises due to causes and conditions. The unconditioned is the realization arising from direct insight into dependent origination/emptiness. It is synonymous with untied. It is not a self existent. The Five Reasonings of Noble Nagarjuna that Point to the Essence (that is not there) by Refuting all Limits of Thoughts Since it is beyond the nature of being one or many, Suffering has no inherent essence, Like the suffering in a dream, for example. The suffering in bardo is also like this. Since it does not arise from itself, other, Both of them, or without a cause, Suffering does not arise. Present suffering is also like this. Since the result does not arise From existing at the time of the cause, From not existing, from both, or neither, Suffering therefore does not arise. From one cause, neither one nor many results arise. From many causes, neither one nor many results arise. Therefore, all things are without arising. Suffering, too, is like a dream. Since like a moon in water, a rainbow, and a movie, It is the mere appearance of interdependent arising, No phenomenon exists through possessing an essence. The extremes of samsara and nirvana, of permanence and extinction are transcended. ................. none the less... Just as the grammarian makes one study grammar, A Buddha teaches according to the tolerance of his students; Some he urges to refrain from sins, others to do good, Some to rely on dualism, other on non-dualism; And to some he teaches the profound, The terrifying, the practice of enlightenment, Whose essence is emptiness (not light, not dark) that is compassion Nagarjuna (c.100 - 200 AD) The realization of "clear light" is not an absorption nor is it making an absorption of only light a fulcrum. p.s. Vmarco is an eternalist.
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There is no causeless.
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Does the reincarnated Lao Tzu or Lord Buddha need an energy transmission?
Vajrahridaya replied to tulku's topic in General Discussion
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Does the reincarnated Lao Tzu or Lord Buddha need an energy transmission?
Vajrahridaya replied to tulku's topic in General Discussion
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Some attachments are beneficial and others are not, it's all relative.
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Anything I say seems to be misconstrued by you. If I say high you'll say low, and vice versa. It's clear that you are monistic. Though I agree with much of what you say, and I've stated many of the same things using very similar metaphors, interestingly enough when I was monistic. So on your ideation of your experience of ultimate truth, we are not in cahoots.
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You keep misunderstanding. No one is transcending anything, that would take a self and an ultimate reality that was somewhat separate from what is. Anyway... What Xabir said.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by, "what if it's me?" Yes, it's me, my blockages that were in the lower chakras and the heart chakra which has the ability to share this bliss with others, as the love and bliss trapped in the higher chakras can only be felt by those with that level of opening or oneself. It has to be integrated down if the energy is awakened in the sahasarara or the anja chakras which it generally is in Vajrayana and it's trickled down through the practices. Different people have different needs dependent upon the individual.
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Also working with sounds while chanting that are particular with the heart and lower chakras like clashing and also drumming...
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Yes, but one can experience a blissful love in the higher chakras. The physical activity will bring it more into the heart and the lower chakras. I've had the same problem and it was suggested to me that I do more physical service, or physical work. I was a Rickshaw driver for 6 years, I calmed the amount of hours that I did sitting practice, and that really grounded my "high up" energy into my body and lower chakras. Also, doing mudra work while chanting does this as well, which is what Vajrayana practices use for physical integration of higher energies into the body, doing hand mudras and even body mudras while focusing on different colorful images in the visualizations does all this mental integration and physical integration while chanting. Also sitting a particular way can be more grounding, women are taught to sit differently then men because of the energy channel differences. Men with the right leg over the left for half lotus, or full lotus, or perfect posture. Women the opposite. Mudra is very good for bringing that bliss down making one have body awareness and many of the mudras are done in front of the heart chakra which is very good for bringing that energy into the heart.
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Three Kinds of Spiritual Teachings.
Vajrahridaya replied to Seth Ananda's topic in General Discussion
You mean the present? Well, that's the point I think, there is never a consensual definition as far as personal experience of the now goes. It's all relative. Some people are just faster and experience the present at a faster rate than others. Like boxers for instance train their minds to read their opponent so they know what's coming before it comes. It's a focus that talented athletes have that allows them to activate their bodies faster and detect information coming at them through the senses and respond to that information faster. Yogi's much like Martial arts masters talk about seeing someone moving in slow motion, but that person feels that they are being in the now. It's the same with math geniuses, they're able to experience awareness of the numbers in their mind faster, so due to a particular focus, they're mind works more instantaneously and the thoughts that arise in their mind are more easily detected and they respond faster to these thought formations as they are catching them from within, faster. It's the same for contemplatives, we experience the power of thought on a faster inward level than social thinkers as we are operating at a higher, faster frequency of mind. That doesn't mean that it will translate into the body just as fast, that's a different focus. Anyway... understand the point? -
Have them do selfless service and yogic postures or chi practices.
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This is the Jhana of infinite consciousness as described by the Buddha. There is in fact beyond. It's called the jhana of neither perception nor non-perception. Beyond that is the inner meaning of dependent origination/emptiness, not merely the relative meaning. p.s. The reason why this state seems like a Self, is there is no perception of otherness, and when you enter back into body consciousness, it seems like the cosmos is being put back together out of this light. I know very well what you are describing. So did the Buddha, and so did Asanga and Vasubandhu, thus they described the various states of beyond body consciousness in their yogachara/chitamatra. They still warn of taking this state up as a Self. It is a state of rest, but clinging to it as a Self of all merely leads to absorption into a formless realm either after death or after the end of a cosmic aeon. It's still arisen dependent upon focusing on one of the skandhas, particularly consciousness. This can happen spontaneously due to past life merit or through deep meditative equipoise. Read the 31 planes of existence. 31 planes of existence. Be aware of the pride inherent in high level states of consciousness when one or other of them are considered as a Self.
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Lots of yogi's experience this in many traditions, but still don't know the inner meaning of dependent origination. You think there is some sort of self existing transcendent, beyond thought and logic? p.s. I don't know... the confusion could just be words! But it does sound like you just had an experience of a formless state of absorption from your description, very high up... very good, but not Buddhahood. Where in NM do you live? I lived there for many years.
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It can't be PUT INTO words, but the words can be put into the realization. Like you can't put the ocean in a cup but you can throw the cup into the ocean. Words are also arisen dependently and are without self.
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Three Kinds of Spiritual Teachings.
Vajrahridaya replied to Seth Ananda's topic in General Discussion
No he didn't. You misunderstand the Mahaparinirvana Sutra. You use a peak experience as an excuse for a permanent Self. The inner meaning of dependent origination does not lead to the realization of a permanent self existence. The self of the mahaparinirvana sutra is referencing a permanent insight into the nature of mind and things, not a permanent self existence.