Vajrahridaya

I'm actually not feeling much of anything about it other than shock. But, I'm actually busy watching a really sweet movie this entire time and feeling pretty darn sweet and eye watery. It's the movie Charlie St. Cloud. It's awesome! About a boy who dies in a car accident but gets brought back to life and he's able to see and talk with ghosts and touch them as if they are alive. I'm all goosebumpy.

Eh... yeah maybe. But to have a moderator go around clicking negative on all your posts until you have a bad reputation mark on your profile is really over the top! WOW!!

Some Tibetan Master said it somewhere in some book. I can't remember who or where either.

Of course I get insulted left and right, but as soon as I do it, I get a negative. I would say that you people here are deeply biased. It's not very good to have a moderator that's biased.

What, debate in the Taoism vs. Buddhism thread? Why not? It's fun, until people become insulting jerks. I'm not really debating on this thread.

Actually as recorded in the Pali Suttas, the Buddha himself engaged in philosophical debates. Debating is in fact part of the Buddhist practice in many lineages.

You're right... you're pompous and you're not from the UK.

I meant coincide.

The Brit's are famous for their pomposity. Thanks for correcting my English dear Brit. Really though I was just poking at him personally as he seems to think that insulting me is a good way to talk about different view points. I don't understand why people do this. Why people are so threatened by someone who doesn't agree with them? I'm a quarter English myself. I've met plenty of wonderful Brit's in my life as well.

It seems to me that most Taoists would disagree with the idea of a universal consciousness as a ground of all being and would call it a passing experience brought upon through focus and meditation and not the ground of being.

The Buddha taught that one must have the "right view" and in Buddhas teaching that is very specific. Though it does seem that there are some Taoists that do indeed have this, "right view".

Well... you must be talking to someone else, so no need to respond here. Again, you must be talking to some sort of projection from your own mind. He came to the Buddha realization through insight into dependent origination by transcending the various states of absorptive meditation common in all spiritual traditions. He mastered all the states of Jhana or Samadhi and saw that they all arise dependently, are impermanent and not signs of liberation but merely results of focus. He realized the many different realms that coincide with the different states of Samadhi and when he left the body he left out of the 4th Jhana which is in line with a celestial realm where he could continue teaching from. This is all in the Pali Suttas. You have an idea of emptiness being something other than form? Emptiness in Buddhism does not have the same meaning as having "no thought" or like an empty jar. Emptiness in Buddhism is referring to dependent origination or interdependence, the fact that things have no inherent selfness. The state of meditation where one sees, and feels nothing is a state of absorption, one of the jhanas or samadhi states and is not a sign of enlightenment, but rather just a nice place for healing and it can even be an obstacle. That was Ananda, not every teaching in Buddhism is for everyone. I guess your not familiar with the teachings of Vajrayana or Anuttarayoga Tantra (Highest Yoga Tantra) taught by Buddha from a celestial realm. There are many paths in Buddhism and not everyone will attain enlightenment through being a monk. Even some monks have to stop being monks and are asked to engage in karma mudra (sexual embrace) in order to progress, overcome a mental block or energetic block of some sort. This also happens sometimes in Hindu schools of Tantra as well. I see them as interdependent yet empty of any inherent self. I don't read Laozi anymore and don't much care. When I do the I-Ching I interpret everything through Buddhas teaching. I don't much care about what Laozi teaches, to be honest. I know he said that heaven comes from the Tao and that Earth comes from Heaven. The Buddha teaches that all realms are impermanent and that there is no basis behind any of these realms that is eternal and self supporting. Your attitude is pretty pompous from the start. I guess your British as well as insecure.

You would talk yourself out of going to a heavenly realm. It's pretty sad actually.

No doubt!

:lol: Um! Or should I say "Om"? Ah um... yub yum internally??

Consider me an initiated Fairy in your tail telling its' bones about it's skull! No... really... I'm not trying...it's kinda fun though!! 4rum bottom to top? I've never actually tried to be vague here. I've always tried to be clear through the use of more words??

Basically, if the source of yourself that you defend is unknowable by you, then your ignorance of my rebuttal arises dependent there of. Only those quite reflective of the Buddhas teaching of D.O. will know what I mean.. but I'm hoping others do as well?? Or will eventually by re-reading that which confuses them?

Those that use this line as a defense for their own ignorance loose themselves in it's inevitable resolution through themselves. p.s. I.E. proving the fact of dependent origination.

Oh blah, blah, blah... are you the monkey king of reifying defensive theories against us monkey minds? What's up with your ultimating the idea of that? Eh... whatever... go on with yourself well in hand... may good intentions bless your path to true and everlasting.. beyond cycles... freedom! I've got nothing to prove... Was just having fun for a stint! Be well!

This is a friend of mine... Malcolm Smith (DTM) and Lappon in the Sakya tradition.

HAHAH!! At least your insanity is based upon a recognition of a circular basis!! :lol: Seriously... laughin' my head off right now!! High five bro!!

Not that I'm a master or anything, but you gotta suck the experience up to the crown chakra level experience integrating everything underneath simultaneously... That's a simplification of...

Yeah... seems as if their tradition originates from one of the pre-pre historic Buddhas of deeply ancient history spoken of in less pre-historic Buddhist texts known of today preserved in Tibet. Even their Didgeridoo sounds, sound amazingly similar to Tibetan multi-tone chanting. Uh... hu!! Mad respect dun!!

As well as is weight from gold.

Since 81'... all different types of Karate and Kung Fu, including the coveted Ninjitsu. Yes folks... no not really that special.. I know, but it was when I studied and practiced it!!