Enishi

On other forums I've visited in the past members would regularly accuse each other of psychic attacks . Such things really are quite difficult for most people to pull off. In the past I've noticed my energy becoming more sensitive to those around me, but it tends to coincide with periods of subconscious healing and reprogramming, depression, a weakened wei qi field, etc. Focusing on improving one's Shielding skills and strengthening the wei qi is necessary during such periods.

One thought that came to me today is that finding and practicing a tradition with the Mo Pai's specific focus really isn't necessary if someone wants to fulfill their spiritual destiny and attain immortality. It's possible that in the realms of Heaven, those who attain the 4th level in the Mo Pai perform duties similar to that of Navy Seals or special ops bodyguards, while others specialize more in medical, judicial or political 'functions'.

If you try to force things with your surface level thoughts/intellect this is partly true, but that is not the only form of meditating. There is also "letting go" where you step away from the ego-mind and surrender to your deeper awareness, and meditation becomes effortless. It's the kind of the thing that is hard to describe with words though, you "do" the practice yet also don't.

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever experienced issues with synthetic materials (like carpet) blocking access to Yin Qi? Honestly speaking, I haven't. I'm interested as well to hear about what others experiences are in working with Yin. For me, I've noticed that forced intent only seems to impact Yang, while for Yin you need to first feel it, then "let go" to allow it to move upward.

To me Yin Qi And Yang Qi sound analogous in some respects to the primal essences described in Bardon's system: http://www.abardoncompanion.com/IIH-Intro&Theory.html

In my current understanding Yin Qi would be Qi that is contractive and dormant, whereas Yang Qi is more expansive. Describing the sensations of working with Yin is harder than describing Yang. With Yang Qi a little bit of mental force can produce feelings of heat and tingling moving on a linear path along the limbs or in the body. Yin is very different though. My experience of it is like that of a non-local fluid/field that pulls one in. There's a sense of electric force, but no "tingling". At times there are also strong sensations cold, wetness, darkness, earthiness, etc. I think Kostas is partly correct in his description of Gravity as being a manifestation of Yin Qi.

I just finished an hour of Stillness-Movement meditation on the bare stone floor of my basement. My level of focus did go deeper than usual, and there was a stronger sense of Yin Qi. I'm not sure if that was due to the lack of carpet though so much as it was the more "cave-like" atmosphere. I think I will make the basement my main meditation area from now on.

My feelings are similar. I can agree with the Buddhists that there is no ultimate "inherent" substance or consciousness, but in every more relative respect the Universe DOES appear to me as a holographic entity of boundless Light and Consciousness, a phenomena that is basically God to me in all pragmatic respects.

Hmm I've noticed that I can go deeper at late night or in the early morning when I feel completely alone and safe. I'll see what it's like if I turn the phone off and try meditating in the day time.

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Yeah in case of emergencies.

This was probably mentioned before but does it get easier over time to go without as much sleep if one is meditating a lot? How long does it take to adjust? I've found that meditating around 1pm or 5pm really doesn't work well, not only is my mind too active but people tend to call or txt me around that time.

Now I'm dying to know exactly what a Shen-Tien is and the difference between that attainment and Level 4 in Mo Pai...

Thanks, you too. At various points I have experienced a multi-awareness, especially back when I was living and practicing every day with my Shaman friend. We sometimes spent hours sensing/chatting with spirits. I tended not to initiate the focus from my dantien though, I would initiate it purely from my head. Over time I became leery of this since I was making mistakes at work and procrastinating too much on school projects, so I only tried to shift awareness when I was at home, walking, or driving in low stress isolated areas. I am trying to shift to keeping my focus on my Dan instead.

Interesting. I've known others who can spiritually 'multitask'. It tends to be hard for me though, especially if I'm at work and stressed out.

Nah not transfigured yet, just much more blissful and laid back than I was several years ago. Also some improved sensing and ghost busting skills. One mention of Verdesi in that book really caught my eye: "He wasn‟t but just a beginner with some past experience prior when he began with nai gong. After he changed systems and a couple years later he claimed he accomplished the fourth level. However, what he neglected to say was that his fusion of the two energies actually didn‟t combine, but used the energy from several bulls that were transferred into him which only has a “temporary” effect and shortly dissipates within a few hours. He also neglected to mention that the dan tien has to be completely developed in order to permanently “hold” the full amount of yang when you need to combine the two energies in our system." McMillan, Jim (2011-11-21). Seeking the Master of Mo Pai: Adventures with John Chang (Kindle Locations 3453-3457). Sailing Leaf Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Part of being able to discern between various types of spirits is dependent on your skill with remote sensing, and also the refinement of your conscious and subconscious personality traits, which filters how much you can see.

Still here? I'm not sure what ya mean. I'm always hanging around the Taobums. Stillness-Movement is my main practice now, though I still do parts of the other systems I mentioned.

Another thing that made me raise my eyebrow when reading that book was the statement that other systems do not use Yin, only Yang. Based on my experience with Stillness-Movement, KAP and Fire Serpent Tantra that does not seem to be the case, just that perhaps other systems do not involve fusing Yin & Yang into a physically tangible ball ala Mo Pai. It makes me more interested to learn what the differences are in other styles, how the Immortal Fetus relates to the fusion method in Mo Pai, etc.

Some of my favorites: Fullmetal Alchemist Cowboy Bebop Miyazaki films Death Note Great Teacher Onizuka Afro Samurai Berserk The earlier seasons of Naruto The earlier seasons of One Piece With some series, shounen in particular, I don't watch the animes much anymore, but mostly read the mangas. With long series the filler they need to put in to prevent the anime from catching up with the manga tends to really detract from the quality. These are the mangas I currently read: Naruto One Piece Gantz Berserk History's Greatest Disciple Kenichi (great martial arts story! The fan service does get ridiculous after chapter 300 though) Since I saw them mentioned on here I may now look up Shaman King and High School of the Dead.

Yeah definitely. I do agree though with Jim's mention that spirits tend to inhabit a very different reality, and thus their opinions and knowledge in regards to physical world linear events can be quite outdated and filtered. Therefore, it doesn't surprise me much that even a spirit who had achieved immortality might still hold to very archaic and (from a Western perspective) prejudiced notions. In addition, the realms spirits inhabit tends to be a direct reflection of their own emotions and beliefs, thus they don't have the same range of conflicting perspectives and more objective contrasts from which to refine their views as we do. There can still be a lot one can learn from spirits in regards to the realms they inhabit and how those realms relate to one's own psychological state and level of refinement, but they're definitely not a good guide for physical world final decisions imo. In that sense Jim is right that they should be regarded with a measure of caution.

Just wanted to say, this thread has been a good inspiration for me. I'm trying to spend more time now in full lotus, even though I currently have trouble going beyond 15 minutes without the pain/discomfort interfering with my focus.

As glad as I am to now have the kindle of this book, I'm also utterly flabbergasted and disgusted by all the ranting from Jim about how all spirits are demons. I mean, wtf?!! It baffles me how someone can train so hard in an esoteric system yet still have such stalwart Christian beliefs in regards to spirits. I guess this just goes to show that ability in one area does not imply ability in another. Even if one has stored a lot of chi in their Dan, that isn't the same as raising the vibration of the energy and having expanded awareness/senses such as one might get from practicing Bardon's system or others. I had assumed building chi would naturally enhance one's ability to discern between various types of spirits. It seems that isn't the case. Seriously, when reading some of the stuff in that book I had flashbacks to my days as a fundamentalist Christian, listening to rants from other church members about how "omigod those people holding that garage sale might be closet pagans, there may be DEMONZ in the cheap couch!!"

Beer bong chest thumping competitions and slamming shots of liquor at parties isn't very good for ya, but a glass of wine or a beer here and there certainly makes life more enjoyable overall. I do notice however that my sensing ability is diluted after a single beer, and that it lasts for awhile even after the "buzz" wears off. Therefore I don't drink every day of the week, maybe 2-3 max.