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Yep. Everything I've studied and heard from teachers I respect agree with that.

The main position comes from man being unconscious and asleep - and to become conscious and awake. I think G is of some interest, but the students arising from the school would have, IMO, more interest to you - and most people in this day and age. alfa, here's some info to get you started http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._I._Gurdjieff * note the spelling of the last name. I'd recommend you look into some of the writings of PD Ouspensky, who's work is much more approachable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._D._Ouspensky Other students of interest would include http://www.bardic-press.com/rcollin/collinindex.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Richard_Orage http://www.johnclilly.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Bennett Also, the Enneagram has many applications for discovery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enneagram Hope that helps some in your search. cheers...

Greetings, everyone! Looks like a great forum. Have been training various Taoist arts (aikido, chi kiung, tai chi chuan, nei kung, kinesiology, accupressure...) since the 80's. Looking forward to learning, sharing, and exchanging. Currently teaching and exploring at Strand Aikido in warm, sunny Pawleys Island near Myrtle Beach, SC. http://strandaiki.com [stopped in March 2012 to update web address] - Dan