New Dawn Fades

You mean I didn't want to be exposed to his energy or his worms? That is also true, but I just told you the rest of the story above. His purported offer to 'prove' himself by zapping me is ridiculous, don't you think? "Here, just drink from this cup to see it's poisoned". ROFL

Yes, I keep getting diverted and haven't yet gotten into my thesis analysis of the exercise Mantra mentioned. Anyway, continuing on the previous dialogue, Originally I declined the meeting because I had no interest in meeting a circus side show performer, used car salesman type, who wears silk pajamas and teaches bullshit seminars, nor of honoring him via contact with my lineage. However, then weenies like Joeblast started accusing me of chickening out so I felt it was necessary to accept the invitation and I planned to make the best use of it. Anyway, there already are enough real masters in Seattle, we don't need the circus types here, so if if my wishes had anything to do with keeping him away then I am happy for that.

Yes it is clear, and I carefully explained why it was obvious and unavoidable in the included statements. Mantra 68 used to call Max divine all the time, in fact he frequently used that word several times in one post, would you say that Mantra, Max's lying right hand man, has any knowing? I'm pretty sure he used the word Buddha too, but if not then others have and this indicates 'stories' are circulating. I'm sure he couldn't care less even if he did know it, but he may not know it, as I mentioned in my explanatory post. You're a liar. I did decline the offer at first but then a couple of days later I accepted it, in writing, on this forum. Then we found out that Mantra, the lying right hand man, the White House spokesperson of the divine, had lied about the whole thing. What does it tell you about a teacher who picks a liar as his spokesperson? In fact he not only lied about it but he lied in the name of his teacher, inpublic, as a representative of him, how cool is that? If I slapped him his face would end up in the next county, but in fact it was the divine who chickened out and never came to Seattle. Maybe he knew I was going to bring some bodyguards with me, whether to a meeting or a seminar intro. They would see his soul and tell me about it, and they would know instantly if he tried anything funny and would stop it before it started, any one of them could stop his heart in a second from sixty feet away if they wanted to. So, cough, cough, who chickened out? It is an honor to be insulted by someone of your stature.

Um, yeah, except for the times ... When I was spoken to. Once I made a request to one ascended master, Babaji, and right away received an interesting and educational reply. Also, I have experienced telepathy with my teacher, who is evidently one also.

It is entertaining though, isn't it. Beautiful I don't have vivid dreams nor remember them. I also am not good at visualizing anything in my minds eye, but when I got to a certain level in my practice I started to see faces appear to me while meditating. Just before this started happening my teacher told me it would happen and that I should ignore the faces. Later I was advised by a high level psychic that I should NOT try to find out who my spirit guides are because Satan would try to trick me, (he was evidently of Christian doctrine) that Satan would try harder to 'get' me because if he did it would be a bigger coup for him. So I ignore them all, once I didn't, and that was a mistake.

Obviously the children, who are like miners canaries in a lot of ways when it comes to energy, were badly affected by it.

This clearly indicates that he radiates sick energy and gives it to people too. This is in addition to whatever entities he may be planting in people. It is common for energy workers who are around a lot of people and who exchange energy with them to pick up their sick energy. Some may say that the divine Buddha, Max, is above such things, but no one is above it. I know a chi kung master who is one of the top five in the world, and he takes sick energy, and getting rid of it, very seriously. If he does healing work on someone it takes him three days to get rid of the sick energy and he avoids doing healing work because of it. He also demonstrated the technique of taking sick energy and throwing it at someone who is a threat, not because he does that but so I could learn that such things can be and are done. Once I was chatting with a naturopathic doctor who did a lot of energy work with people and he was proud of his ability to make women swoon or orgasm when doing some energy work on them. He mentioned being able to project energy without using his hands and then I felt a cloud of chi come from him and was duly impressed. It wasn't till after I left that I realized he had blasted me with a big cloud of sick energy. Evidently he wasn't aware that it was sick energy, later this person became quite confused and sickly and was hardly able to work. So a lot of people who brag about not picking up sick energy are simply not sensitive to it, they think some hocus pocus BS is going to save them from it, but the fact is that when two energy field mingle that each one will pick up some of the other's. So think about Max, he just exchanged energy with three hundred sickies, are you sure you want a piece of that?!?!

This brings up a subject I was aware of earlier but didn't bring it up. This clearly indicates that he radiates sick energy and gives it to people too. This is in addition to whatever entities he may be planting in people.

Yes, you are easily amazed, aren't you. You also probably find it amazing that your constantly misleading people offends my delicate sense of justice, which you just did again with your following statement: I have no desire to dominate people and I never fantasize about hitting women nor do I hit them, all the little bitches I know are men (well almost all =), most of them are on forums, and you, Mantra68, are one of them.

Nope, not kidding, dead serious. There really is such a test, and that is the result I got, and it is a rare category. I don't see what good it would be to go to a therapist, I know myself, I like myself the way I am, I enjoy life, and my mind is much stronger than a therapist's, who would also be crazier than I.

I've seen evil in near it's totality, so that chick isn't scarey, but Winpro? {{shudder}} (runs screeching from the room) Just kidding, winpro doesn't have enough energy to pop a pimple, I don't think he could muster up a projection. Anyway, whats with all the green stuff? The reptile I saw wasn't green. I drew a sketch for your entertainment: It was dark, like charcoal colored, except for dark purple accents, mainly around the lips and along the face. The eyes were yellow. All the pictures others have posted had humanoid faces but this one had no humanoid characteristics. The size of the scales also ran in patterns, with larger scales around the lips and nostrils. I recall more details of the mouth than the rest of it since it was closer. The sketch looks two dimensional, but the frill went back and faded into the distance. Soooo, what do you guys think it was? ______________ Edited to switch picture to attachment

Those questions made me pause for a microsecond or two. I don't know, it's my nature, I guess. Once I took one of those online personality/character tests and I came out in a very rare category called 'bitch slap'. So today Max is the bitch, and well GIH was too (two in one day, woohoo), yesterday it was Mantra68, who will be next? We'll never know. I fill in more later, got to go to class now. No, nothing like that, that looks kind of like a dog faced human, I only see their faces, in color and ingreat detail, and what I saw was really a lot like a dinosaur, but with intelligent eyes.

Yes a saw one, and I assumed it was related to Kunlun because I've experienced this before, being able to see what others are seeing in the spirit realm after recent contact. I don't know who it was or where it came from because I do not interact with them, I only ignore them. I goggled reptilian images and what I saw had a similar face but it had a large frill that extended back from it's head into the darkness that looked a bit like a web (spider web?), on further consideration I would say that the best description of it would be that it was a dragon, and it was a head honcho of some kind, maybe it was the Taoist dragon. It was very calm looking with wisdom in it's eyes. We gazed at each other calmly for a few seconds and then it left. I really couldn't care less about these things and I gazed upon it with absolutely no emotion or care or interest.

Now now, children, try to pay attention.

GIH is apparently against meditation, the foundation of all spiritual growth paths, and all organizations that are against meditation are of the most fundamentalist nature, and by fundamentalist I mean the destructive, negative aspect of fundamentalism. He's really just a mental jerk off with a high IQ. He states he is FOR wisdom, but one who is wise would work on his health in order to feel better rather than on trying to be wise. I wasn't too thrilled to see Santi uttering Islamic fundamentalist epithets like 'peace be upon him' either. Taoist teachers are so rare ... on this forum.

I'll fill in some details later

Bullshit!

Yes, I guess he missed the part of this thread being about the external demons and that he previously said Max puts entities into people, that Max admitted he puts entities into people, and that observers have seen him do it. Anyway, since I saw one of these reptiles I can see they are different than demons, in fact it may even have been my buddy, Babaji Nagaraj, the serpent king, but I doubt it.

No, I think you answered it with your question, partially. It's because I'm able to pick up on what other people are experiencing, it's a form of being empathic. My first impulse, on realizing it must be from MaoShan was to attempt to kill it if it returns, but perhaps not. It didn't look blatantly evil, more like something that could easily scare some people. Maybe it was an embassador from Mao Shan to Tien Shan. Kill the embassador?

How about a negative relationship with one of the demons, is that no problem also? How about being tricked, are you above that? Do you have prior experience with these things? Yes it is obvious, and also by learning the practice you become "in their debt", even just by reading the book. That's two strikes. I didn't know that most of the Kunlun spirit freaks were reptile like but I think I saw one of their head honchos last night, and I haven't practiced it or read the book. I see the faces of spirits sometimes, when I open the crown top more, they are usually human. This reptilian's head was rather big and the back of the head was large and faded into a kind of weblike frill, fading into the distance sort of thing. I didn't realize it was associated with Kunlun but I think it is.

Oh go blow it out your arse, Winpro Scotty, I have a question for you. Obviously, in the reach between spontaneous chi kung and formless chi kung. from the tragic to the beautiful, there is a spectrum of learned ability that influences it, so I would like to know what your definition is of spontaneous chi kung, and why you think it is harmful?? I would also like to hear from Ya Mu about how he defines spontaneous chi kung (if it is he that teaches it also). Bring ear muffs to the fireworks.

Listen Shaktipants, answering complex moral issues with one liner slogans is unbecoming of those who aren't Republicans, do try to observe the bigger story. I'm not so sure that your approach to marketing is all that much different than Max's. Step right up folks! Get you red hot shaktipat! Just sit at your computer and for chrisakes use some power of suggestion ... pay first, we donate to charities. MAX N' KAP has a nice ring to it, MAX N KAP burgers folks, get yours cheap!

Yes you do, you are very observant today. Gold star on forehead for you! Whoever started the thread was either trolling for me or it was someone new looking for info about the 'other' side of the story, and I aimed to give them what they had coming. Without too much detail. I know your thinking "spare me the detail", well I feel the same way, gearing towards short attention spans always helps too. Hopefully I miss some of these 'what is Kunlun' threads, if not it's just a sad coincidence.

Thanks for the info, yes I did mention the first practice was not a description of Max in the original post with the link, it was included because of the apparent similarity of both the actions of the teacher and of the results that some get. I'm afraid I don't know anything about Mr. Wong, but I've heard the name. That's good, what came of the discussion in Mak's forum? I also hope that what I perceived as low energy in Scotty is more from a greater sense of peace rather than low energy. That's a much better avatar Scotty. Beware of the grumpy old man syndrome and what it means.