New Dawn Fades

ALRIGHT! Then my work here is done, I hope you will stay away in droves, and that goes for the rest of you Maxifreaks too.

Thanks for the explanation. Sorry, that word isn't in my dictionary, could you explain it in English. More on the subject of transmissions: that is Maxifreak's big advertising shtick, it's disgusting and is why I won't use the word. How does zapping someone in the eyes with demon juice and them having terrible experiences compare to giving a lot of chi that feels blissfull to the student each week and accelerates their progress? ... and now I reeeeally need to cut the internet cord or throw my computer out the window. It's been fun though.

LOL, that's great! Enough force will break anything, and it is much better to break bones than ligaments because bones heal 100%. Actually the break isn't across the bone, the ligament just pulled a thin sliver off the surface. Plus, decades of being a caffeine freak didn't help, coffee leads to osteopornosis and I'm an old fart, but my hair is getting darker so that's nice. Peace to you too, Santiago. I don't like that word 'transmissions' when used in advertising and long distance shaktipat sounds worse, for example, that Mizner guy who claims to give transmissions in tai chi. That is a terrible thing to claim. I did have shaktipat once, from across the world and it was from Sai Baba, and it caused my enlightenment experience, but it was a surprise, I didn't know it was coming - but my teacher knew it ahead of time. In my system we fry our students with chi each week but I never say it to prospects ahead of time and I never use the word transmission.

Very true, and sometimes when revisiting the basics after going further ahead you learn there is some powerful stuff there that you didn't see earlier.

Yo tambien hablo Espanol, cuando era un nino vivi en various paises en sudamerica, pero ahora me falta practica.

Works for me Biff! Peace bro.

We aint no saints. Ooh, here comes Biff, everyone duck! _____________ Edit: and Mama, the visualizing sitting kind of MCO is not just weak but dangerous, it's a hard style because it is forced. One person from half way across the country came to see me because she had been seriously damaged by doing it, and I've heard of others. I couldn't help her, and I think the damage was permanent, she will never be able to meditate. My teacher, who is a great healer, will not attempt to help such people. There are many ways to do the MCO with movement and that is what I recommend as it is safe. Safety is paramount, particularly for powerful systems, as you must know.

He wants the point, I think Becker would get upset with more points. That's great! I love it. When referring to myself I prefer the word idiot rather than retard, but that line is a keeper.

Tsk tsk, reading comprehension, ask Yoda to correct you. Maybe authentic in some places, but still trash. Well, you see, now it's starting to sound again like there's to much Chia in KAP, and that's not good, and I'm aware there is additional material. Really? It looks like you do it better than I do. ______________________ But I must pause here to agree with yo mama =) All practices work ... for something.

Yo, mama, were all crazy with too much energy, and we like to play games.

ROFL, that just might be crazy enough to give a try, but I've never tried Skype. evidently I missed your hint

Now you are accentuating Santiago's strengths and your own weaknesses and blind spots. Where I come from, to not teach in person, one on one, is a sin, and I still don't see how something of good use can be done that way, at least not anything even slightly as complex as tai chi or Tien Shan.

The reason is because I don't want these friends of mine bothered by a bunch of two bit detectives checking me out because I was playing around incognito. I don't want them bothered by a bunch of thrill seekers who flit about from one seminar to the next, and none of us want some scam artist to take a class for a few weeks and then claim to teach it on the internet. I could have sworn I saw a post by Sereneblue on this thread but now I can't find it. I must be going nuts or low on sleep. I didn't know people could delete posts here. but ... Sereneblue, I'll accept you as a student, ROFL OK Markern, I'll take your word for it and let Santi off the hook. Lets all go bash Chia now.

Good idea, but since I don't want new students, and since I have time to kill the best I can do is point out where I see a problem, and there are LOTS of BIG problems in the chi kung industry, and some of them seem to settle here. There are plenty of people here who offer classes that I deem to be very good, but they aren't constantly pushing it, are they? Besides, it's a little game of push hands, Santi gave me some crap so I gave him some back, that is all. Ask Becker. Dream on, oil and water don'tmix. I saw a list on another thread somewhere but haven't been able to find it. I recognized three or more things in common I think, but the only ones I can remember now are the inner smile and the MCO. If he doesn't teach a lot of Chia's stuff then that is good, but the way Chia teaches the MCO and inner smile is just superficial, backwards, hard style vs soft (Taoist) potentially dangerous (if someone says it's dangerous because it's powerful that is a lie), and generally goes under the classification of wimpy chi kung. So the fact that he even teaches that much is not good ... and in long distance 'seminars' ... please.

If anyone wants to contact me or ask questions they can do it by writing to Starjumper7 at the Tea House forum: Tea House

Yes, but right after that I DID accept the invitation, and then we found out that Chris was a friggin liar because he made it up, so now you are a liar too by what you just said, in addition to saying you have seen me train. You haven't seen my chi kung or felt my energy, and you won't. Also, I never said my combat abilities were great, all I've done is report things I've seen and learned in this area, which is very interesting. I was here mouthing off because Santi asked for it, and I have time to kill because I broke a couple of bones in my wrist. and it is precisely because of the lies posted by you and Becker, which so many do on this forum, along with all the fast talking salesmen that dominate here, that it is a disgrace being known here.

I could take your word that he is only teaching a little bit, but given your track record for obfuscation, you are not a reliable or trustworthy source. Small classes, but classes non the less. Also, there is some amazing stuff being taught publically, for those who know what to look for. Don't presume you have a monopoly on the good stuff. You don't. Becker, you know whats funny about karma, you call someone a liar and you end up being a liar. I didn't say Steve was the one teaching bits and pieces, it was the other guy, who you linked to later. You posted it yourself in your last post: that Steve's class is full, that means he is not accepting students either, get it! He isn't accepting students, I'm not accepting students, and we are the only one's teaching it as a full system who are students of Bruce Lee's main teachers. So I didn't lie about it. Steve is more advanced than I am. There is a Tien Shan system being taught in Spain and I have been in contact with the instructors, their head instructor didn't learn it from my teacher. Sure there is info about it on the internet, and most of it is on my website, It's public, not secret, but we aren't looking for students, and so very few people learned the entire system, and of those so few teach it that it is for all purposes, secret. The fact that it exists is not secret, but how it works is. Maybe someone will drop out of Steve's class in a year or two and then he will have an opening. We don't teach three day seminars and then give people a certificate to teach, so don't hold your breath, people tend to stay for years. I never said I took KAP, so I didn't lie, YOU are lying about it. I never said I took Kunlun crap either, so I didn't lie about that. You are the one who is lying! I did however take classes and seminars from Chia and I've read his books (never has so little been taught to so many for so much), and I know that the real Taoist chi kung masters disapprove of his methods. If Santi is teaching Chia's stuff then I think it is a disservice to the public, that is all.

Yes it would be easy, but Steve already came on this forum previously and vouched for it. Yes a handful of us learned the same system, but I spent more time at it than a lot of them. It is still 'secret' because there are only two people in the world teaching it as a full system, and I'm one of them, and neither of us want new people, so it remains secret. BTW, one of the pictures in that link is of me, and the guy who owns that site isn't the 'other' one who teaches it as a system, he sometimes teaches little bits and pieces of it once every year or two, but he's retiring. And it's not a method, it's an entire system that takes many years to learn! and you really shouldn't have posted a link to the other site or quoted it, do you think? I want everyone here to take KAP instead. Yeah, well I'm not the one exposing it here on the KAP thread, am I?

The reason I changed my name is because people found out who my teachers were. Will you please remove the link to Steve's website, as it is a disgrace for both us and our teachers to be publicly associated with this forum. He specializes in combat, I specialize in nei kung, so it will still not give people any idea about what our nei kung is like, which is not named anywhere on that site, nor will reading about the combat methods allow anybody to understand what that is actually like either. If you knew I didn't want to share what I do why did you do it? I am NOT looking for any students! I do this because they are scamming people in the good name of nei kung, and a lot of Chia's practices are either dangerous or stupid, and by extension, also KAP. I might still explain, might not.

I felt this coming, but I'm sorry, that is not my website and that Steve who owns it is not me. You are doing a great dis-service to him by publicly stating that I am him.

I can see you've been taking your smart pills, Good! Now ask yourself what difference it makes if I knew about your relationships. WOW, 16,000 years! Do you give autographs? You apparently don't know about the ancient shamanic roots of Taoism or the indigenous prehistoric Chinese shamanic practices that it is part of. Absolutely, it is purely Taoist, and it fits Taoist principles so much better than the perverted stuff that Chia and his spawn teach, which you think is good Taoist stuff. and I'm trolling for YOU.

"Discussion is encouraged to wander eclectically across a wide range of spiritual thought and practice, whether Buddhist, Yogic, Tantric, Judaic, Advaitic, Christian, Islamic, Shamanic, Occult, "New Age", Integral... As long as you are up for a good time, you're welcome to discuss your path." Lino, I admire your maturity and it is nice conversing with you. It does seem a little strange to me though, for a student to have more maturity than their teacher. I understand what you are saying above and I'm fine with that, whatever the board is intended for is what it's for. However You sort of missed my intent so I bolded the key words for you. Well, I always thought he was a nice guy, but now I'm beginning to wonder a bit .

So you would like some more constructive criticism? As you wish, but I don't think there is any need to rush into it, after all, he's been telling us about how great he is for years. To be honest, Sainty got my attention and accidentally invited my here when, in a different thread, he insinuated I didn't know anything about internal arts, in an unkind way, and now he's saying it about Taoism. I think it's only fair to return the favor, particularly to people who claim to give shaktipat and transmissions to others just for being nice to them on a forum.

I wouldn't know Claim is to Taoist internal arts, internal martial arts only being a part of it. I wasn't referring to Morris as the storyteller, although he was a good one, I was referring to Vajrasattva, riding on the coat tails of Morris's popular books as he constantly trolls this forum for beginners and suckers, pushing his non Taoist kundalini practice on a Taoist message board. I think that's the main reason there are no books writtenin my tradition.

I'm somewhere. No I offer a full path to mastery in Taoist internal alchemy to a very few people who want to become masters, in person, it takes years, you wouldn't be interested. Nothing for here, sorry. = Testosterone brain