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No , waking up from a dreamtime experience with a higher consciousness , master , guide , etc , and the energy work is still active when you awaken .

shaking is good , just let the energy do what it needs , wait till you wake up and its happening from trans-dimensional dreamtime activity !

Wilhelm reich called them orgone :-)

Poor man , poor dog.

True intent as in linking to the higher levels. So simple yet so misunderstood. Its cool though cause if we aint being proper we aint getting to those levels :-) So there is some justice in the multi dimensional universe after all :-)

Bless you too mate :-) I hope your version of gods image isnt some catalog kid with chiseled features ! haha No wait , thats the new age version , with every year he gets younger and younger and his six pack seems to be developing at an alarming rate , not to mention the goddess , she went from sacred to looking like something from a reality tv show !

Thats a strange point of view mate. But I would go with other . How cool would it be if people stopped making millions for these cock suckers , stopped listening to the law of attraction shite , stopped visualising the violet flame and arch angel who ever and actually put some work in to generate real energy with intent and power. Ah one can only dream. How cool would it be if these people who constantly hop from the alinging the cha-ka-raaas workshop to the how to ascend in 7 days workshop realised , dammmmm , I just need to put some serious gong fu in and maybe , just maybe Ill get somewhere, maybe if i stop going to that tantra class with all the middle class beautiful people and actually conserve and transmute my energy then I might get somewhere. If we could all just taste the tiniest fragment of truth we could see so clearly the lies and deceit laid out before us on this multi million dollar path to enlightenment. But , looking at it one way , least we know these frauds and spiritual sharks will indeed have to face the consequences of there actions of the blatant soul stealing one day. Ahh happy happy.

Ahh , speaking of spiritual materialism , is it just me or is 90% of all this shite from the U.S based on wealth accumulation ? How could it all go so so wrong.

I call it house wife spirituality and I have met a lot of women into this shite. Doreen virtue ..thats really your name ????? Diana cooper , there is an abundance of these people out there just milking people for all they are worth , angel cards , tarot cards , archangel spray essence , crystals , arghhhhhh.... Visualise the violet flame around you for protection and see the archangel "insert chosen archangel here" he is sorting out all your earthly problems , mmmm, now buy my new book about 2012 ,oh wait , 2012 has passed , damm , ermmmm , k , the new ascension date is , errr , something coming up so I can write another book about it and hell , maybe take you on a tour of the earth vortex the ascension will take place at for a silly amount of cash. My ex was actually into all this shit and can you believe Diana cooper advertised for artists to do free artwork for her site , my ex submitted her work and was accepted but the scam was , get all these women to donate free artwork so she could get out of paying for any original art and they in turn , would have the "honour" of having there work on her site. Scamming little cunt. All the while she was offering a trip to the pyramids with her for so many grand. urghhhhhhh. I hate this type of spiritual exploitation with all my heart.

Im in the outbacks of north east England , well , err .... that says it all really ! haha

Can I have one pretty please ?

Many thanks Bagua , Sounding like a right thicky here but how do I access it ? AHH i found it ! hehe Good to know Im not that daft !

Ah cheers Bagua , was starting to think I had lost me marbles there as I couldnt find me post but could have sworn I made one ! haha

Strange that a lot of comedians suffer from depression .

Not sure who you have talked to who has been through it but I regret what I have been through. All those years lost , losing the people you love and deeply care for because of it. And no , I dont find it enriching to have lived most of my adult life suffering. And for the people who never shift from it , who live all there lives struggling with simple day to day activities. Not meaning to sound insulting here but you sound just like another therapist / counsellor who has no real idea.

When your in the death grip of REAL depression "spirituality" is a bad , bad joke of the worst taste and all this intellectual bullshit just aggravates an already wounded and tortured soul. You cant even eat never mind read or concentrate and the idea that things are going to get better seems like a walt disney fairytale. you are totally alone and ready to implode at any given minute ( or so you think ) and you are , make no mistake about it , in a real living hell which you cannot escape from and no one else can understand. The only thing I have found personally to move this deathly heavy energy is a powerful physical and energetic shift , just enough to let a tiny bit of light in and even that needs the strongest of shifts , BUT... That tiny little ray of sunshine breaking through the dense , dark clouds can be enough to save someones life when they are in the death grip.

Wudang Kunlun flying needles medical qigong dvd Any one have experience of this ? Sounds intriguing :-)

Well I have paid for the Bagua Circle Walking: Single and Double Palm Change in a download format , well I asked for a download , the reply was very , er , short and scattered , bit worrying when your handing that much cash over !

Hmmmm http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread993773/pg1

Exactly to both ! how cool is that ! hehe

just been looking over the kwan yin qi gong , so when you get to the expansion and contraction of your hands / qi ball do you stop moving the spine in the circular motion ? or do you keep the circular motion going all the way through ? wish he would have did one full round so we can see it all in one

Thanks guys , much appreciated , yeah I would rather download , so you have to email him to order ? seeing the description on that site , I was wondering what this is ? "Dragon stance pulsing qiqong"

Been looking for the "heart of bagua" dvd all over the net and cant find it to purchase any where ? Anyone know where you can get it from ?

Funny these dream time posts are popping up as I just posted about an experience on the S-M forum last week I had 2 different dreams of doing gift of the tao but... its like something or someone doesnt want me to do it ? In the first one I was doing gift of the tao then had some negative entity type stuff going on but did some kind of energy work on it and transformed it , the next thing I can remember I was doing energy work on a woman , my hands on her heart and on her back in line with her heart , I then woke up to find I was having energetic spasm's lying in bed. The next dream I was doing the first few moves of gift of the tao 1 and a Chinese man appeared in what I can only describe as a black kung fu suit ... a very negative and violent energy to him and made me stop doing gift of the tao ? Whether these where just strange dreams I dont know?

Excellent stuff as always :-) I was wondering if you could go into more detail about what she could "see regarding all of the spiritual elements as they unfolded during the meditation"