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That's interesting, a medical doctor[oncologist] who's also involved with casting out spirits from a christian perspective is constantly going on about pratices from the east which make the mind more suceptable to entities.Emptyness[or super trance state] for one,when she's done with the redemption work she has the liberated person placed on a steady diet of mathematics and critical thinking skills.This augments a person's natural willpower and sense of self. That's interesting, a medical doctor[oncologist] who's also involved with casting out spirits from a christian perspective is constantly going on about pratices from the east which make the mind more suceptable to entities.Emptyness[or super trance state] for one,when she's done with the redemption work she has the liberated person placed on a steady diet of mathematics and critical thinking skills.This augments a person's natural willpower and sense of self.

I'm a bit confused, are you saying practicing the spring forest method is ultimately a dead end? THe author said in the tapes with enough deep pratice[lotus sitting] you can see auras and activate your spiritual eye.Also these empowerments[or lineagr holders] are they spirits,jinns,one reason I like qi gung over more hindu based systems is becaus it is rooted in natural forces.You don't have to feel like you're being disloyal to your God.Springforest directs us to call upon the master's enegy but he never explicitly tells us who this master is! Is it the lineage creator? Usually I just say master teacher or something as it's really hard for me to call any man master or lord. I'm a bit confused, are you saying practicing the spring forest method is ultimately a dead end? THe author said in the tapes with enough deep pratice[lotus sitting] you can see auras and activate your spiritual eye.Also these empowerments[or lineagr holders] are they spirits,jinns,one reason I like qi gung over more hindu based systems is becaus it is rooted in natural forces.You don't have to feel like you're being disloyal to your God.Springforest directs us to call upon the master's enegy but he never explicitly tells us who this master is! Is it the lineage creator? Usually I just say master teacher or something as it's really hard for me to call any man master or lord.

Not just neocon but I've heard Chang's teacher or one of his predecessors killed hundreds by destroying a village! No belief required there for it to work gold is heavy just raw attainment of abilities.Let the amazing Randy find some one with that kind of predisposition! That's why I say it may be wise for those secrets to remain secret,learning mo pai won't help you become a master at life.Only Tony Robbins can do that!Joke. Enoch or Methos Not just neocon but I've heard Chang's teacher or one of his predecessors killed hundreds by destroying a village! No belief required there for it to work gold is heavy just raw attainment of abilities.Let the amazing Randy find some one with that kind of predisposition! That's why I say it may be wise for those secrets to remain secret,learning mo pai won't help you become a master at life.Only Tony Robbins can do that!Joke. Enoch or Methos

I have a very very strong memory and I can deduce from other posts that Becker respects Chang ''he invited us into his home, even though we were not worthy'' that does not sound like a person with an axe to grind.The reason for the secrets are valid on most levels[maybe not all] can you imagine the average Joe with that kind of power? Most human beings can't even master their diets or stop lying.There's a passage from the book of Jermiah which goes ''The human heart is deceitful above all things and subject to monstrous deceits'' Most human beings seem to be neutral or range the spectrum without a firm embracing of moral behaviour.It's really about quality control for the teachers,a filtration process just like becoming a goverment agent our teaching-backround checks so on.Can you imagine a overly political person with those powers?

Wow! so much concern for my friend, I think he would be honored! Anyway he's married now and a Chicago police officer.The issue could have been over any commandment requiring obdeience over personal indulgance.Like not stealing or lying even if it works to your favor and you can get away with it.Many of my liberal friends tell me you can't make abstinence a test for spiritual purity or righteousness.My response is that there are four key dimensions to being human:The physical,the emotional, the intellectual,and the social.My friend by abstaining trained himself to be faithful to his wife.Which brings up the social side since the family is the corner stone of society by not cheating he is in a since being righteous.Also there are cosmological views at work in his perspective he believes in a day of judgement where every act and every word uttered will be accounted for.Since there are those four key dimensions to human life he thinks submission will better him three hunderd and sixty degress in those areas,fortifying his square of life.Being a father to his child,a strong man for his wife and a productive member of society.A supremely disciplined individual...okay I'm romanticing. Regarding Neil Armstrong and his walk on the moon...I understand language is not primary experience,only secondary experience or it represents the experience.The menu is not the meal.I think a lot of this revolves around subjective truth and so called objective truth.If Neil Armstrong mentions seeing a ufo while on the moon[assuming he's trust worthy] inferences can be made.1.Ufos are real 2. He saw one.3.Certain cherished world views may have to go out the window or be seriously revised.Similar to your mentioning a word of caution to mwright[mo pai guy?] about yin and draining spirits.Inferences can be made about your views on spirits-that they are real.If you are correct then what are the implications?...just like ufos.Of course if some one doesn't believe in objective truth on some level then this is all bullshit!Reminds me of history debates in class about oral history, is it a valid source of history. I practice spring forest at a different time of day is that okay? Or do you mean I should halt all other qi gung practices? I've been using it since last summer.I also practice kong jing, muscle tendon[Da mo] classic, whole body breathing ,bone marrow cleasning, one finger zen,I really like Peng's stuff too.If I stopped all the others I would be fearful of forgeting the forms.I've also attached magnets to key areas [sometimes when practicing]this can create a lot of heat.If I sit next to [without magnets]an electrical socket I seem to sense energy or a feeling of insects moving over my head-maybe just lice eh?Curiously I don't get sore from rigourous workouts and the next day I'm ready to rock!I haven't fully emitted sperm for two or three months now and at times I feel my shirts [especially around the sleeves] being pushed outwards.Two hours is a pretty big commitment just for forms or do you mean sitting in lotus as Chunny directed to do in the course for going deeper? My weapons:qi gung,mind workstation,np2.autogenics, biofeedback , nlp,rajayoga,hypnosis,mind spa...anyone messes with me... Methos or Enoch

Wow! so much concern for my friend, I think he would be honored! Anyway he's married now and a Chicago police officer.The issue could have been over any commandment requiring obdeience over personal indulgance.Like not stealing or lying even if it works to your favor and you can get away with it.Many of my liberal friends tell me you can't make abstinence a test for spiritual purity or righteousness.My response is that there are four key dimensions to being human:The physical,the emotional, the intellectual,and the social.My friend by abstaining trained himself to be faithful to his wife.Which brings up the social side since the family is the corner stone of society by not cheating he is in a since being righteous.Also there are cosmological views at work in his perspective he believes in a day of judgement where every act and every word uttered will be accounted for.Since there are those four key dimensions to human life he thinks submission will better him three hunderd and sixty degress in those areas,fortifying his square of life.Being a father to his child,a strong man for his wife and a productive member of society.A supremely disciplined individual...okay I'm romanticing. Regarding Neil Armstrong and his walk on the moon...I understand language is not primary experience,only secondary experience or it represents the experience.The menu is not the meal.I think a lot of this revolves around subjective truth and so called objective truth.If Neil Armstrong mentions seeing a ufo while on the moon[assuming he's trust worthy] inferences can be made.1.Ufos are real 2. He saw one.3.Certain cherished world views may have to go out the window or be seriously revised.Similar to your mentioning a word of caution to mwright[mo pai guy?] about yin and draining spirits.Inferences can be made about your views on spirits-that they are real.If you are correct then what are the implications?...just like ufos.Of course if some one doesn't believe in objective truth on some level then this is all bullshit!Reminds me of history debates in class about oral history, is it a valid source of history. I practice spring forest at a different time of day is that okay? Or do you mean I should halt all other qi gung practices? I've been using it since last summer.I also practice kong jing, muscle tendon[Da mo] classic, whole body breathing ,bone marrow cleasning, one finger zen,I really like Peng's stuff too.If I stopped all the others I would be fearful of forgeting the forms.I've also attached magnets to key areas [sometimes when practicing]this can create a lot of heat.If I sit next to [without magnets]an electrical socket I seem to sense energy or a feeling of insects moving over my head-maybe just lice eh?Curiously I don't get sore from rigourous workouts and the next day I'm ready to rock!I haven't fully emitted sperm for two or three months now and at times I feel my shirts [especially around the sleeves] being pushed outwards.Two hours is a pretty big commitment just for forms or do you mean sitting in lotus as Chunny directed to do in the course for going deeper? My weapons:qi gung,mind workstation,np2.autogenics, biofeedback , nlp,rajayoga,hypnosis,mind spa...anyone messes with me... Methos or Enoch

It could do both or neither depending on his personality and circumstances.The statement had to do with John Chang or Moses and their remarkable experiences with reality.Also the question was directed at Becker and his insights regarding reality from the interaction.I liken a conversation [assuming he's real] with Chang to be similar to a conversation with Neil Armstrong about his walk on the moon,we can have opinions but he's done it! There's something to be said for objective abilities that transpire in our reality. Likewise,I don't think my friend would think he'd gone mad at experiencing an angel if there is external evidence-part of the uniformity of exsistence.By the way guys I'm well aware most arguements can be undone by attacking the presuppositions behind them.On the other hand even a person who denies some measure of objective reality looks both ways before crossing the streets! I choose choice! Methos or Enoch

Interesting but I think not! What makes you think he hadn't experienced carnal delights before? The temptations of the flesh rarely leave us for good.They can abate for years then resurface, that's the biggest illusion about success.People see success as a static result rather than a habit of mind, a way of life.Besides the statement had more to do with certainty and uncertainty, if you knew with certainty that you'll live for twenty more years[with good health] and wanted to attend medical school you might decide time is on your side.However, if you knew you only had five years you might not want to burn those years in medical school.Time,perspective,distance changes everthing.Likewise if my friend had certainty that Allah is real it would make his perspective even stronger.In the same way Becker's beliefs about reincarnation have been boosted by his talks with Koakas and Chang.Also my friend took an oath-the shahada so I would never encourage him to break it.It would be like Sean Denty,Becker,or Jim giving away Mo pai secrets without permission.Going against their oaths! My friend should only surrender his beliefs if his conscience leads him to that conclusion. Death before dishonour! Methos or Enoch

Hi guys I joined several months back but never completed the registration process.Hmm,so did I really join? Anyway, my interests are qi gung,raja yoga,nlp, neurofeedback,martial arts,remote viewing,psychology,philosophy ecetera.I'm betting all you guys will make for interesting companions. I don't suffer of insanity, I enjoy every moment of it! Enoch or methos

Sure. You can go to transparent's corporation website,hit mindupdate and find a bbc documentary of hypnsis being done on a man while in[hernia] surgery.I'm into medical hypnosis and autogenics-creating a control panel in my mind for directing certain activities like pain reduction.In one study subjects under hypnosis directed warts to appear on their body, which happen.Then they were directed to make them manifest on the left side,then right, again they appeared. This implies a connection between mind and matter[like the placebo] especially since warts are suppose to be created by virus.Hypnofiles.com has a bunch of free hypno files you can download.I filter various hypnosis files through mind workstation[np2 too] adding entrainment.Workstation also comes with inbuilt biofeedback programs.The data is used realtime to speed up our slowdown visualizatios and entrainment beats.The data is based on skin conductance and heartbeat measures.Using these programs can make a hour of dantien breathing a breeze. Wisdom looks in all directions! Methos or Enoch

I have Chunyi Lin's spring forest course[Robert Peng's/ken Cohen's also] and I practice it almost everyday.It's really great for healing and energy cultivation.Regarding what is important...A muslim friend of mine abstains from fornication yet remarked to me ''I'm going to be really upset if this God stuff isn't real'' most likely because of the senual pleasure he's missing out on.If he had certainty then he would most likely feel his submission to Allah will ultimately be rewarding.In a similar vein you've told others to earn liberation from rebirth in other posts.When questioned about reincarnation you responded with insights gleaned from personal coversations with Koakas and John Chang, so being around intersting people can help with making distinctions.In the western world we are taught everything is physical and life is an accident,so to find out our reality is a part of a much larger reality speaks vollumes! It's akin to finding out the earth is alive and we must love/nuture it.Nevertheless, it appears the Divine revels in mystery and uncertainty...maybe to maintain our perception[illusion?] of free will.I understand what's important ultimately are values-for me loving the Divine and service to humanity. I choose choice! Methos or Enoch