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What I believe Ape means[i could be wrong] are effective methods that bring true siddhis. You know, like Wim Hoff, swami Rama, Prahlad Jani, John Chang, Chunny Lyn, ecetera have. I noticed in your report not a mention of desiring powers for healing [like Drew proclaims he wants] was mentioned. Super normal healing is a siddhi as well. As for good...sure everything is filtered through human consciousness, nothing interpets itself. However, that does not lessen the distinction between the two dualing forces at work in human experience. Just as a rape victim. I do believe you are correct about critical thinking coming first, it's just we should beware of western mechanistic, materialist bias dominating our entire world view.

Hi! Has anyone encountered Yan Xin in person or attended any of his seminars? Drew has made mention of him several times and he has submitted his qi-gung to scientific testing. His abilities seem to be on par with many high level cultivators: Santiago, Wang Liping, John Chang, Chunny Lynn, ecetera. Any serious info on interactions or [personal] results from practicing his method would be appreciated.

No not me, but a guy I know to have a sense of honour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAjPpTGFdVQ

Well there's old school abrahamic hip hop and..

Bless you, Scotty, you are always thinking. All I can say is the guy knows energy, I wonder what Scri-Yuri thinks of it? I can only imagine Drew's reaction or Cat's. Even Santi. probably smiled a bit before saying w.t.h. Many yogis perform similar feats to test if they have the energy. Please don't try at home. Interesting music...I think I'll google Carrie Reed!

Any techniques for projecting chi through the[Yan Xin] eyes? I'm well aware of thunder palm and sword fingers.

If I'm not mistaken I also tried some pranayama exercises, I've never experienced closing my fist back then. (do correct me if I'm wrong) Thumbs in hand is a old chinese mudra as well''it gathers the chi'' Did you find yourself full of energy after practicing the first time? I couldn't sleep at first[with tridaya] and my central channell felt aflame.

Chinese medicine and healing plus energy systems similar to qi-gung. Sytema really is like empty force qi-gung. Accupunture and stem cells regrow optic nerve! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXKgq3OCfXY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkXwfukoEUI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYq8EueDYNM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWE7kCXnRd0&feature=related

Excellent! It reminds me of tridaya and Master Lukman's system. My understanding is that the headmasters of Kalimisada only teach up to a certain level and keep the rest for the family. Also they can knock over objects at a distance and ignite objects at the highest level. I wonder if anyone[taobum] has the cnn special which featured kalimisada against an unruly population.

Athough by accident...yet still impressive! At the end of part three he projects through a wall. I think Paul Dong would be happy yet Gary's ability comes from another system and he doesn't have control. Some taobums swear by his stuff others criticize it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvsZuTEmEbg&feature=related

That's why itis always wise to incorporate hard training as well! This is kinda how I train except more weights and qi-gung. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfqQbKNDsk8&feature=related

Here's an interesting journey of one man with an enquiring mind. Also the study tech in scientology is quite nice.

So...don't be coy, what did he say? Or are you indirectly telling us what he said? Have you tried his system?

Well, well, where to start? That video was pretty nasty and disturbing. However, just to be fair to Sai and his followers, he has reportedly performed feats Chunny Lnn, Wang Liping,John Chang and others can only dream about. It should also be noted Jesus was slandered in the talmud under veiled references. So I'm always reluctant to immediately judge without evidence. Swami Rama was also called a charlatan and like Jesus he refused to speak out against his accusers.Leaving him open to a vicious lawsuit and extreme finacial penalties. One of our own members visited Baba and claims his powers are real[sky or starjumper]yet he derives them from evil spirits. Barbara Brenan [i think] visited him and said ''It appeared as though all tthe energy centers in the universe were centered around him'' Her own healing powers increased after that encounter,so who can say? It should also be mentioned in the book of Enoch it reads''The serpent landed in India'' Anyway,here is a book detailing some f his amazing feats:http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Miracles-Investigative-Phenomena-Associated/dp/0803893841 His charity work-building schools and hospitals should also be marked. Unlike eastern spritual leaders L Ron Hubbard fought back against his accusers [infiltrating goverment instiutions,ecetera] and is criticized for doing so. It is similar to the problem of evil brought up on university campuses: If God is good then why won't he stop evil? Yet in certain passages he is called a juding God and takes action against evil and that is used against him, it seems you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. It all comes down to how people feel about you.

Interesting segment on healing, I've been looking for this for awhile. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw_mDZiJQlI&feature=related

Also I should add John Lear said the sun is not exactly what we think it is but has a magnetic sphere.This may help us to futher understand the nature of qi.The inventor of Coral Castle mentioned the astronomy books of the earth have it wrong and I have deduced the secrets that the ancients knew.Chunny Lynn also calls chi the magnetic field. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr9U1cP68eU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrljSjQqArU&feature=related

Hey Vortex this is for you baby! As previously stated Chang said you need yin to levitate...well here is a scientific feat explained by using gravity for propulsion.UFOS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9zoKGaf3AU&feature=related

Not from a book.

Just what John said yang isn't strong enough to levitate[he could be wrong]most sytems are based in yang only. This is revealed by older posts from members.No secret data.

Very good Vortex! Bob Lazar who worked at area 51 and on so-called ufos talked at length about gravity's power and the ability of these crafts to use its force for propusion. To levitate John Chang said you need the yin force as well. Yang isn't strong enough. Natural forces are something else eh?

A very interesting take on accupunture and energy medicine from a respected inventor. I wonder if Ya Mu, Santiago, Shakti Mama, Freementallo, would care to comment on it. The second part. is the most compelling.THAT IS THE FIRST VID!!

Psychic reasearch stuff along with a scientist's views on chi and intention. Declassified files from the KGB on the paranormal with rare archival footage. Everything from actual footage[look at the symbols on the craft] of a fallen ufo to using light entrainment for telepathy, remote viewing, navigating land mines by psychic means, ecetera. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3344143469120447420&hl=en&emb=1 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d35l5Kxg7ik http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6kmgEQN4xro

Hi! Has anyone considered the overlapping similarities between Zeev coleman's healing ways and Chunny lynn's? Also notice the healing postures[movements] and how similar they are to qi-gung: Shaping the energy field, directing energy out of the palm[lao gong] the cultivation of love,the sensation of heat and electricity, ecetera. Zeev seems to have more immediate juice on call than Chunny since people have reported having [broken]ribs immediately rearrange themselves on the spot for healing. Sean Denty's wife had an encounter with Zeev and reported it was fantastic! Denty, interestingly enough recited Zeev's history saying he[Zeev] met several lmmortals in Israel, however, it illustrates the human tendency to project our own world views onto others. Denty's[buddhist/taoist] not a theist so he called them immortals...yet they could hve been angels or aliens; especially being in Israel. Just an observation. Here's a multimedia link with testomonials and healing demos.BELOW!

Well the healing arts should be elevated to the nth degree, I'm tryng to find and codify various techniques for my own practice or learnings.Yes the techniques he advises and practices every morning are very simialar to qi-gung. Which points out again there is a common structure/ method for unfolding our latent abilities. Like Ken a student of Wang Liping I prefer ancient wisdom to the new agy practitioners who can only manifest a small portion of their systems potential. With the proviso...if a new guy can manifest his wares and teach it, make it explicit then I'll accept his wisdom. But that is rare most new agers just stumble onto snippets of truth without a conceptual understanding. I mentioned angels because he was on duty in Israel and their description reminded me of such descriptions in the bible. Here is somehealing advicefrom Zeev...sounds like qi-gung: Five simple steps to self-healing, as taught by Zeev Kolman in his healing workshops. 1. Relax Sit quietly. Meditate. Listen to your favorite music or repeat a mantra, a calming word or phrase. 2. Breathe Inhale deeply. Hold your breath. Use your imagination to push the oxygen to all the organs of your body - including the heart, stomach, and legs. See the breath and oxygen swirl around your head and brain and go out the top of your head. 3. Connect with the cosmic energy Sit with palms up. Imagine the cosmic energy entering your body as a brilliant light. Feel the energy in your palms as it accumulates. Take your time. 4. Work with your hands Create an "imaginary" balloon of energy between your hands. Feel the energy. Continue to build up the energy with gentle in-and-out movements of the hands. 5. Build a blue shield Transfer the energy from your hands into and around your body. Envelop the body with a protective cover of energy, to supply needed life force and to protect yourself from negative influences. Do this every day, regularly, at the same time. Zeev performs such a meditation one full hour each morning. With practice, as you learn to build up the energy. you will not only be able to heal yourself more effectively, you will be able to transmit the healing energy to others. Attend one of Zeev's workshops for more details and other healing techniques. How to see the aura, the visible part of the energy body. 1. Relax Sit quietly for a couple of minutes. Still the mind. 2. See the aura from your fingers Hold your hands in front of you, fingertips touching. Very slowly, move the hands apart an inch or two. You should be able to see the aura between the fingertips. 3. See the aura from the head With a neutral background, look at the area around a person's head. Look around your head in a mirror. Look around the head and body of a pet. What movement and colors do you see? 4. See the energy between your hands Look at the balloon of energy you created in the healing exercise above. If you can feel it, you can see it. Take your time. 5. Practice Practice seeing the aura around other people and around animals. It can be very revealing. Remember, the aura changes with the mental activity, emotions, and health of a person. Seeing the aura can be an important adjunct to healing and balancing. Zeev gives a workshop on seeing the aura. His energy helps you to acquire the facility.