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Sorry if you feel I came on to strong...yes it may be subjective and that is okay as long as there are works with the faith. On one level all of it is subjective yet a means must exist for discerning effective qi-gung from watered down qi-gung. As I stated healing is the greatest yet people go by what they see...and manipulating physical reality [since we are taught to worship it in school]on the gross level is what most people [mind reading here] covet.

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Well than...please explain your logic, because I've read posts before where you wrote there are qi-gung masters as powerful as Chang! I think a lot of respect goes out to those who have united the yin/yang gong because of the objective element involved. They can demo there skills anytime,as opposed to healing which is much more subjective. Yet what is greater than allieviating pain and misery?

Hi! A friend, fellow bum is trying to make several neigung copies for me but he sent me this message: I'm having an issue making dvd's and I was wondering if you might be able to help me. I have a compaq presario from 2006, stock. It's a laptop. I've purchased dvd+r dvd-r and whenever I insert one to burn I get an error messege as Insert Writable Disk. Do you know how I can actually make dvd copies? Oh, my computer can read dvd+rw because I have a few of those with some neikung and liao training, etc on them.

Hi! A friend, fellow bum is trying to make several neigung copies for me but he sent me this message: I'm having an issue making dvd's and I was wondering if you might be able to help me. I have a compaq presario from 2006, stock. It's a laptop. I've purchased dvd+r dvd-r and whenever I insert one to burn I get an error messege as Insert Writable Disk. Do you know how I can actually make dvd copies? Oh, my computer can read dvd+rw because I have a few of those with some neikung and training, etc on them.

Amazing eighty year old qi-gung master! Look at his skin and movement! Also I found a new video on Master Jo from Ripley's Believe it or Not

technology being applied to multiple subject[space travel] areas. A recent coversation began about applying different devices with our brainwave [meditation]entrainment,like kinnesthetic movement[entrainment] or game speakers. Well, hopefully this will inspire novel combinations of ideas for our forum. I've thought about combining virtual reality glasses with visualizations or learning videos, nice to see Nasa is already doing so. Soon 3-d monitors or 3-d glasses will be sold on the market, this should [the potential is there] open up a brave new world for learning and conditioning. It would be so cool if the private[average guy] sector would pick up on this tech. Oh...even if workstation can't connect with the epoc headset, the effect of brainwave entrainment could still effect its readings. DON'T GET DISTRACTED BY THE LADY...SHE'S KINDA HOT! Learning chi gung or martial arts at home won't be the same! Way more advanced than the neurosky headset other bums brought up, cost a little more too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSNQZF3Pm30http://www.youtube.c...feature=related http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Sorry, here is the headset:http:

This is one of the questions I truly wished martial development had pursued or addressed in his interview with Jim. Jim said ''Conservation of jing is the question I'm most frequently asked'' Adding he went ten years without getting married but the depression or loneliness finally got to him. Also saying he was delighted to find he could control his sexual energy. So that would immply some conservation is demanded.

Also notice how his arms are filled with chi! Similar to John Chang's yet different,more static.

In Taiwan some practice tai chi in graveyards for yin chi. The yin chi of most systems isn't the yin chi of mo pai.

Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experiemented with so-called dna sounds or devices like sonic bloom which increases plant growth manyfold. I'm thinking whole body breathing[delivering chi to every cell] while playing these sounds may have a more powerful effect on our qi-gong or sitting practices. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-clZzj9BZMQ&feature=related

A guy demoing real iron chest...not to many m.m.a. fighters could do this or take this. Watch the form, learn the, form it contains many secrets for those with a discerning eye. He has several qi-gung books but I haven'tread them yet so can't comment, on the whole not bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD75-zRluy0&feature=related zRluy0&feature=related Most likely shaolin hard qi-gung, soft power developed by bagua is suppose to be able to drop most shaolin forms.

Sorry here is the demo

Mayhaps it also explains the profound effects of the five tibetan rites according to some.

Here you go! http://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3286

What's new eh? In his book swami Rama gives an account of his master transfering his consciousness into a newly[fairly new] dead person's body. Of course this was to teach a lesson on the nature of transitory exsistence. My question is do you or have any of you heard,read about such practices? For taoists it would be a longevity practice indeed! Or just thought transference in general...I guess telepathy or remote infuence would be modern examples.

What makes you say that? One does not necessarily infer[imply] the other, perhaps his skills were limited to his mortal coil. He was very old at the time and the body was recently[Ganges] dead. Also ,Rama himself had mysterious origins and there is one story from his disciples that he had transferred himself from a previous time. At any rate, it would be akin to Doctor Who and a way of keeping impermanence yet escaping death like the Doctor. At this point, it would behoove us to remember Rama's abilities were on Chang's level. Very funny indeed!

What makes you say that? One does not necessarily infer[imply] the other, perhaps his skills were limited to his mortal coil. He was very old at the time and the body was recently[Ganges] dead. Also ,Rama himself had mysterious origins and there is one story from his disciples that he had transferred himself from a previous time. At any rate, it would be akin to Doctor Who and a way of keeping impermanence yet escaping death like the Doctor. At this point, it would behoove us to remember Rama's abilities were on Chang's level.

I'm curious you mentioned thailand, another tao bum mentioned meditation masters living in thailand with abilities similar to John Chang. Care to elaborate? Or share any stories?

It is everything you wrote and more. The more is the objective external evidence that acompanies valid displays. It's like finding proff that God is real! In modern culture[western world]all paths are suppose to be equal, pluralism is the order. More pie guy, got into a huge debate merely saying peole like Wim Hoff, John Chang, and proven others are on a different plane from average western magic practitioners. People get scared if their path is not as certain as others. Read the holy books of the earth and you can discern that.

J. Chang fucked up and so did Andreas. WHY? What do you mean?

I read about a doctor who went to medical school at 48! I have read hundreds of books on memory and I have some gifts if you want them. Also I knew a man [security guard] who would race 15 teenagers down the block and come in seventh place! He was 53, in great shape,worked out five days a week. Could do a lateral leap onto his desk, break bricks on his forearms, bench press so much weight that the bar started to bend. Sometimes he couldn't sleep without performing a workout! Push ups or something. Pmemory is okay but it uses memory aids just like all the rest. Why would you want to move away from California I'm thinking of moving there! Beautiful weather and women,open minded as well. It's nine degrees in Chicago! California is so huge! I should add with a education in nursing, medicine, law, and other in- demand areas you really can't go wrong. Money for better or worse grants social freedom, it's the other traps you have to be wary of: A woman getting[hasn't happen to me yet] pregnant, false friends wanting money, law suits, stealing in all forms. I haven't responed to that thread on ''Something is holding me back yet'' but it defintely seems society is configured in away to keep us defeated. That is, without the proper knowledge and willpower-self discipline.

Hypnosis can and has done this before. It is also practiced in nlp, here is an expose on what is possible for the human being.