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Yeah exactely. You can control where you want your life to lead but to try to control details is silly because then you make miricles impossible. The range of events that could occur in the next hour of your life are so enormous that you could be however you want to be in unimaginable ways. The saying 'God works in mysterious ways' is so true. Rainbow_Vein: With the remote control thingo.... I remember running one time, at a time when my body was very fit and i ran effortlessly, and i totally gave up physical control. I was watching my body running and there were no levers being moved at all. I went off my course where i ususally ran and just followed the way i was being pulled. I could actually feel a pull and depending on the direction i ran it was actually easier or more difficult to go that way. Best way to explain is like 2 South magnet poles or a N & S. My breath had no rythem like it normally did based on my stepping and it was just smooth, not interating with my stepping. I didn't think, i didn't plan and i just watched my body run to a place i'd never been before. Then i felt uncomfortable because i didn't know where i was (I was in china at the time and harder to find the way back). My spirit lost control of my body and my ego took over again. I think in our life we should practice any moment we can to give the control to our soul and just be amazed and surprised by where it takes us, but also allow the ego to come back into control again too. To be able to switch between the two purposefully i think is a great goal. Both ways of living are very useful for different reasons.

I think the 'doing' is just as important as the 'not doing' otherwise you are all yin and no yang and therefore not balanced. I think the main point is that you are not 'doing' too much so that all your 'doing' actions fight against each other and your putting in massive amounts of effort and energy but getting nowhere because all your actions are in different directions. By stilling your mind and doing only very little you make effective use of your energy and acheive more. I find with myself the better i get at living the less energy i have to use. It's like my soul uses a remote control mechanism to control my body but depending on my level of meditative state, the levers of the remote control become easier and easier move, and they need to be moved in any direction less and less while having greater and greater effect. Another thing i have found in my practice is not concentrating on details just concentrating on general results. Not "I want to become good at qigong so my body can heal" rather "I want my body to heal". It's silly to limit yourself to only qigong when there is so many ways one can heal. Thinking the former is an example of too much 'doing' because you are fighting with the universe that wants to heal you yet you are resisting it's attempts and only allowing a qigong solution. Thinking the latter could also be considered too much 'doing' and is limiting everything the universe could provide you to only healing experiences. But that is the power of thought. By concentrating in one direction your energy is focused, concentrated and powerful. Thinking the latter will heal your body at a faster rate. I found this to be very important. I hope you can understand my explaination to apply it equally to how i understand the different meditative methods work.

There are some preferences that are natural. Like a baby reaching out to suckle on a nipple rather than a bedsheet or something. It's instinct. Tension arises in the body because it is hungery then the person reaches for food. We prefer to eat food over wood. So yes preferences are in accordance with the tao. (I purposesly don't say natural because i think just because something is natural doesn't mean it is in accordance with the tao) Some preferences are not in accordance with the tao within one's self. Like when you do chose something which fights with the tao. Which makes life more difficult. When your ego's preference disregards the natural flow of things and does what it wants despite it being in a different direction that the tao is taking you. I think the key is that if you need to consider or think about your choice and preferences it is not in accordance with the tao. If your hand reaches out for it without any thought or consideration it is part of the tao. The divine has caused your action/choice/preference and not your ego. But i think ego's are natural too. So Everything is natural whether if it is in accordance with the tao or not. I think analizing the topic in too much detail distracts from it's simplicity and causes confusion when there is a simple answer.

Has it? Do you feel more enlightened by reading the great wealth of knowledge here within? It is great to read everybody's stories, some much more enlightened than others. Some very advanced, some beginning their paths. Many helping others. It really is wonderful to see it all. However i find the more i read the further i distance myself from the tao. It can help me from time to time to create tension within myself to rediscover the path of the tao but each time it steps me back before i step forward. But perhaps when i become more determined to rediscover the path of the tao i temporarily lose my connection to it. I am no master but i have spent plenty of years cultivating and learning seems to be the biggest barrier to my internal peace and quiet. Being happy with what you got becomes more and more difficult as you listen to others, and in the endeavour to have what they have you end up with less and less. Anybody else's feelings?

In china with my tai chi teacher it was not the teacher asking for money but all the students wanting to give money to the teacher. Felt quiet strange to me as i didn't feel the same way but none the less i did give gifts to the teacher also just to fit in. These are expensive gifts much more expensive than the tuition fee. Infact i wasn't even allowed to pay for my lessons or give any gifts to the teacher until i had formally become a part of the group. This wasn't until i had practiced every weekend, saturday and sunday with the group for 3 months without a single day off. Only after this time could i formally begin to become a part of the group and the teacher would then spend more time teaching me techniques. I guess it's the chinese / tai chi way. Push gently then pull hard haha. It's so engrained into their bones they do it in every aspect without even realising it. It is their way.

Yeah i agree. It's good helping other people. It's good to ask a question and get responses from lots of people. It's nice to see some good quotes of the literature, i could never be bothered reading through all the literature to find some of the good quotes people have posted in here. However... This is what i find myself doing if i spend alot of time on taobums. Questioning things, using critical thought and "working things out". All of this is counterproductive for me as i try to live with the tao. I think trying to reason things out using logic is of no use. Someone might work it out and 'ah ha' get their moment of peace but it won't be long till theres something else troubling them and the tension is created again until the next 'ah ha' moment. It's similar to being addicted to buying things or even smoking cigarettes in the way of depriving yourself of inner peace. It's the thought process which is the problem. The rational mind is doing the steps of a + b = c, when really you didn't need to do the a + b part, just jump straight to c. It's easier. I find it the best way of living with the tao. By not thinking at all and there will be no questions but all the answers.

Haven't read heaps of your posts but if you are healing people according to what they belive in then you are healing people from the root. I agree it doesn't matter what they believe in you just have to adapt to them. You can't give people a new organ when they need it but you can target the tension created from their thoughts to begin the healing within their body. That really is the key for eastern medicine. Coupled with western medicine it is the best medicine available. However if the plant is almost dead all the N/P/K nutrients, stints, relaxation and change of soil won't be of any use i wouldn't think. Then only the light of god can save the plant and that is beyond any medic, eastern or western!

God knows where you got this from. I think it is very wrong and not your own thoughts just posted from anywhere and everywhere. Seems rediculous to me

Yeah when i lived in china my tai chi teacher smoked and he was a real master who practiced kung fu and other arts his whole life. Bruce lee's old man smokes a pipe! Yep heaps of em smoke. I smoke on occation. Not ever day, maybe only 1-2 days a week or maybe not for 2 weeks. I still love it though. smoking can be great but the more you have the better they become thats the addictiveness of them. TCM says it burns the yin of the lungs. I know thats true. Of course it will effect every system as all things are connected. It relaxes you too. And is good for digestion. When you stop your digestion slows down though! All in all i think smoking has good factors like: Good for socializing Gives you space to talk to higher ranking people in society that also smoke Relaxes you in times of need and prevents you acting crazily or angrily when you really should be calm However of course breathing smoke into your lungs is bad and makes it harder to breath in the future. Living in the NOW would make it even harder to stop. But we all know the future exists and so we need to prepare ourselves for it also. Moderation is the key as is everything. I eat maccas too but not every day. I ejaculate too but not every day. If you like it do it. You can't die wishing you had've tried it. But it's not wise to abuse it to the point it kills you. But we all know this. It's not new news. Socially now it's not accepted. But when have social views effected the taoist.

Yeah i agree. There are much more forces at work that those between your ears. Surround your with stronger forces and you will be carried where they take you even if it's not your intention!

My tai chi teacher in china was talking to a few of the other students about a plant in china growing 'through' the glass on a windowsill into the sun on the outside of the apartment. Like it was fully in the news and everything. Everyone seemed to be in agreement. I dunno i didn't see the news story. i guess there are enough people there to see strange things that rarely happen

i dunno about you guys, but something long and hard poking around close to my bum hole is a sure way to quickly make my errection go down hahaha

Yeah it is possible to get into it. You gotta get past the hump then ur whole life can be about it. You don't have to give up everything just the things you don't need. But not because you want to meditate, just because you will find it will give your meditation easier. You don't even need to give things up untill you find you have no use for them anymore! Now i do it before i wake up, on the way to work, while at work, on the way home, and any little bits i can in between. The more i do it the easier it becomes. It's like saving your energy so you can use it later. You can choose to use your energy at any time but if you can save heaps you can just live on your excess and still live with piles of energy to spare. First you feel tired, recovering from any excess energy you've overspent. Then you start saving it and you can always be in the black and not the red like a bank account. Sitting meditation is only a beginning so you can learn to do it in every day life. Thats when it becomes wonderful. REASONS TO BE INTO MEDITATION: Don't worry so much any more Don't think about the same thing over and over again Do something about things you think about and make positive changes to your life rather than just having good intensions Have excess energy to do the things you always wanted to do Having a wider perspective and realizing the things that really matter Not being bored, being able to change the boring times into fun meditative times that you have fun doing and make your life experiences (times when ur not bored) even more fun! And they are just the general things. There are lots of specific things but it depends on an individual needs. If you're 16 and having a great life i wouldn't waste my time with it. It could make life better but it's great already how it is and it's good to have life without meditation i think. But as you get older or if you have an illness it's wonderful. I'm only 28, been doing it for 4 years and now it's one of the top priorities in my life that nobody can take away. It can be anything you want it to be. If you've given it a decent go for a period of time you will be able to tailor it and It really is training yourself to be how you want to be.

According to TCM fruit and veges are cool, with fruit juice being the most cooling and meats and fats being the hotter foods. BUT.. if i drink lots of fruit juice and eat lots of fruit it gives me lots of energy and i don't feel calm or yin (maybe because of too much sugar??). Then meditation is supposed to be yin too, but if i meditate intensely for a whole day, or a week, during that day / those days, i have periods of relaxedness but also periods of fustration and very un-relaxed feelings. After i stop meditating in the days afterwards i feel more relaxed, but still not calm and i have heaps of energy. It seems things yin things actually make me feel more yang. Funny enough though if i go back to eating heavier more warming foods, or begin a more busy life after meditating breaks i feel more yin and relaxed (while on the journey of being more yang). Then on the other side of the coin.... if i run or go to the gym which are yang exercises after i feel relaxed, calm and more yin! what the...? But then i know if I keep doing yang things to feel more relaxed etc i finally become exhausted and feel tired and can get exhaustion and internal heat symptoms. But further, when i begin doing more yin things after the exhaustion my internal heat and exhaustion symptoms get worse because my body is beginning to decelerate and i feel super exhausted and dry. But this is the only way my body can recover. What does make me feel yin and calm is being consiously connected to the earth energy while at work throughout the day and the 6 healing sounds. But these are using the mind to effect the yin/yang balance directly. So now i find via eating food, by eating yang food i become more calm and yin initially but later become more yang. Then by eating yin food i become more energetic initially but then more yin. Another point is coffee. I guess that coffee is yang (not sure?) So you drink coffee, become yang and warm then when it wears off or you don't drink it you are exhausted and become yin and cold. It's like the energetics of food fool you into thinking your going in one direction when later you end up in the other direction. I'm interested in everyones personal experiences with food /drinks. Especially anyone trained in TCM like Paul Walter. I think it's important if you realise what the food is doing to you because it can make meditation easier.

Yeah it's true i do think too much but food definately has different effects. Another thing that seems strange to me is that in mantak chia's book's and other places i've read that it's best to be yin. When you are yin you don't get cold in winter. But yin is cooling so how can being yin keep you warm in winter? Or... is it that in the process of being yin your body by nature of trying to become balanced slowly becomes more yang to the balance point and in the process you feel warm. Anyone?

Once you can do level 1 well, level 2 and 3 are easy. Just practice. Also spend more time doing Iron shirt 1 while doing kan & li or ya won't be grounded enough. I don't even bother with kan & li any more unless it's just a once off thing, just for fun. Grounding exercises are more useful for me.

Well you've at least got to be getting to the level where you are using your energy body. If you can't do the Microcosmic orbit you've probably got a long way to go. Iron shirt is good but i don't think it's directly going to help with OBE's, although it would in a roundabout way. Really once you've got to the 2nd fusion level, the one after fusion of the 5 elements (forgot what it's called... at work at the moment) OBEs are easy. There are other ways to do it and have OBEs easier i'm sure, but Mantak chia's stuff lets you have more control in your OBE experience. But thats for OBE's and since you spend most of your daily life in your body it's probably more useful to spend more time doing iron shirt and the MCO. In my opinion.

Everyone gets what they deserve? Should you care? No. Does it matter? No. Will you get what you DESERVE? You will get what you want. That 'only' is true. At least instantaneously? Everything is current. Looking to the past or the future is only a figment of your imagination. Only what is happening now is true and real.

Maybe this works for you but.... Why create work for yourself? i remember the saying 'life is simple but everyone chases complexity' or something like that. If you feel you are lifting heavier weights than what u actually are you are creating more work for yourself. Your muscles are working counter productive of each other. You should be practicing using all your muscles in unison to make life easier not harder. Yeah i can stand in the same spot and stress all my muscles against each other and be in a pool of my own sweat but what for? I could run a marathon and use a quarter of the energy by using my body efficiently, using my bones and a little muscular effort for maximum acheivement. Practice doing what you want to achieve. If you want to make life hard for yourself keep doing what ur doing. If you want to have an easy and productive life practice that. Go with the way, don't fight against it. Go with the tao and life will be easy and blissful.

Just mantak chia's stuff from books. Thats all. The more you practice the more you can apply it, just look outside the square. Nothing beats intense practice though. Thats the only way to learn. Then you need chance to apply it in your real life and that takes time. Thats where benefit comes from. Even if you are the ultimate buddah at home meditating in a room. It is all useless unless you can make use of it in your daily life.

I think the benefit of doing standing meditation is that you are more grounded while you do it. You are grounded within your body, keeping your alignment good WHILE meditating and using energy. It's easy to become ungrounded while meditating sitting down. Meditation is hard on it's own but if you keep correct posture at the same time you improve your mind to be doing many things concurrently. It then becomes easier to keep good posture while you are studying or working things out with your mind. While you are distracted. You can be very high, using high energies while still 'within your body'. It's the integration of the 3 pure ones, into tai chi, the perfect balance, yin-yang harmony. I think to do it well it's not for beginners. But when you are good at grounding work, and then become good at higher level stuff, integrating them into one is the next step and where great benefit begins. When you can punch with perfect structural alignment and shoot the energy out at the same time the perfect harmony of tai chi is achieved and power of the punch is the greatest.

I had a cool OBE. I was working while meditating at the same time at a meat factory before i could get a decent job. Someone at work has been acting weirdly around me and didn't like me for some reason. They had some hostility to me but didn't directly act badly towards me. Anyhow i shot up my astral body and came into contact with his higher body on purpose. It was aggressive and trying to overpower my astral body me. I pulled up earth energy, making my astral body more heavy and physical strengthening it, as well as attracting more star energy to it too. With the added size, strength and energy of my astral body I forced his astral body to retreat and it recoiled (yet i wasn't nasty or anything). Then he (in real life) after that took a wider berth around me, treated me with more respect and wasn't hostile any more. The astral affected the physical in a very real way. The whole thing only took about 5 mins or so and i did it while we were both working. I have to be practicing regularly and be in the zone to do this kind of thing but yeah it definately works. When you can learn to do it, it makes life more fun. It's whole. You can use your mind to affect your environment in very strong and real ways.

Haha yeah that is very right and very cool.

Maybe you don't need to 'ask her out' just try be good friends with them, start chatting, then maybe try catch up out of class some time later. Before you know it she will be phoneing u more and more and she will be showing so many signs that she is dying to be with you hehe. I rekon this is the best way.... every time i've got a girlfriend via this way it's lasted a long time and been great.

I think if the light on one of those stickers comes on and there is no battery attached it has to be removing some of the radiation, else where does the energy to light the globe come from? It must reduce the power of the radiation somewhat, however i'm not sure how much.