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Relax your arms & legs. And your hips and shoulders, head and neck. Dont concentrate on dantien or torso. This works good for me.

Breathing is a complicated subject as can be seen by the variance of replies. Its not just air volume or how much one breaths but also how and what one breaths. 3 become one =)

If one just lets the chi flow, circulation will be normal. If u compress chi into a ball then circulate that ball, the chi pressure will act as a pump to improve blood circulation. Yin yang, night day, summer winter... All circulate. Perfect weather and still wind allow stagnation

Stop dairy.

If i am really pissed off i might shoot someone if i have a gun. If i got a knife i might stab them, with neither i can only punch. If in punching i will probably stop before they die. That's my idea. Here in Australia ppl cant carry knives either. Ppl have got in trouble for carrying a boxcutter. Its a bit silly i think.

You can see me if you want to come down to Geelong. I can balance u via Bowen and it's pretty long lasting stuff. Can also give you foods to eat / specific meditations to do if thats what you're after.

Yes it is part of the training. All these eastern teachings are paradoxical, a bit like a japanese koan, but when you 'get' it that means you have understood it and 'passed' so to speak. In the west we teach a different way, give all the information and do a test at the end. You seem to be having trouble, fustration is never going to help you 'pass' only getting over that fustration on your own will help. I will give you an answer (my answer) to this koan, because i too was fustrated with how it all went together and it probably set me back due to how western learning style was ingrained as i grew up. If you feel this will 'spoil' the surprise for you in 10 years time, don't read any further. The deeper you go the more you will understand. Here are some answers with some analogies, the best way i find to transfer meaning; To begin with the energy goes up the spine easily, but doesn't come down the front channel easily. So guide, but don't force the energy through the orbit. More guiding will be needed down the front channel. As soon as it starts to run by it's self more, use less guiding and more following. The following is where you want to be at, but you need to 'train' the energy so to speak on where to go. Physically i believe you need to rejuvinate the fascia (extension of the nerves) to get rid of any trauma or any sticking together of the fascia that prevents smooth chi flow. Iron shirt 1 exercises help with this. Do the backbend to help frontal facia. Beat your chest like Tarzan. It can help. You can fake laugh. Loud, quiet, different ways, copy other peoples laughs you have heard of. At times in your laughing you actually will REALLY be laughing, perhaps laughing at yourself, or how others laugh. You watch those real laughs and see what is happening. Replicate that more and you will be doing more real laughs than fake laughs. Eventually you can real laugh any time you want because you have practiced it. You would also have read in the book awareness out, concentration in. They are two different things, the yin and the yang. Controlling the two is the final step before non-dualism. So concentration, focus can be concentrated, focused, directed, while you are reading this your eyes are focused on the words. Meanwhile you will be less aware off the desk your PC is on. This is awareness. You will probably be even less aware of your toes. They are 2 seperate practices. Some meditations expand on and develop awareness, others develop focus. Healing Tao develops both, thats why i choose it as my meditation style all these years, it encompasses everything (more on this later). So you expand your awareness out, searching and being aware, while you turn your focus inwards performing the alchemical transformations within (the formulas). This way you can search for ingredients for your formulas without with your awareness and bring them in to power up your alchemy within. Awareness is expanded in higher levels, especially fusion. Another important point is attention at LDT. If you use your brain to do the formulas, you feed the monkey mind. Use your brain first, until you can do the MCO, then transfer control to your LDT. Your LDT becomes the brain directing the chi in the orbit, and later in the other fusion orbits, organs, and even inner smile. But your LDT needs to be trained how to do it, your brain can teach it. It's like how you don't need to think how to write each letter with a pen, it just flows out your hand. Your brain already taught your LDT that one when you were in primary school. This is only part of the paradox And this is why i like Healing Tao, because it incorporates all levels, the only way to true enlightenment. It can also start from your perineum, or outside your body, from your spirit. This is a bit like the training thing i spoke about earlier. In physical qigong, you use your perineum to direct the power, the physical flexion of the muscles in that area. This develops the physical demi-god within. Your physical ability to feel and push becomes god like - like the amazing feats of tai chi experts. The earth is god. In this style PHYSICAL FEELING is developed. In emotional qigong, it starts from mid eye brow, control is centered in the heart, inside the brain and in the LDT. It is a balance middle point. This is the heart dantien development, and developing the chi within the organs. Practice at this level awakens the emotional demi-god within. You can feel other's emotions, direct healing energy to others, connect to other planets. You can use your chi to push and pull, or move things. I've used my chi in Aikido to hold somebody to the ground without touching them. (Bullshit you say? Yes, to some extent, but to some extent no. They have no desire to get up, my chi was strong and effected their energy body, and they remained pinned to the ground with my intent) This is the world of chi. Chi energy is god. In this style CHI FEELING is developed. In spiritual qigong, it starts from outside the body, above from your spirit, the source of all your spontaneous thoughts and actions - not habits. Here you develop spiritual energy (my weakest point yet it is slowly improving). This awakens the spiritual god within, where you develop wisdom, can predict the future, can direct your life in the way that is most spiritually fullfilling. You can see far away, and develop clairvoyance. To me at this time in my life those sort of things have little purpose for me, so i don't do that kind of thing much, and therefore my spiritual development is reduced to what i feel useful. What i do find useful from spiritual development is feeling and knowing my spirit so that i can more easily fulfill my spirit's desires (or destiny as you may), using my developed physical and emotional bodies. This is the spirit world. Spirits cannot push and pull things, they can't move stuff (themselves), but it is linked to knowledge and understanding. The power comes from changing a course of action so that the people (or things) change how you want rather than using the physical or using chi. I find this type of practice most easily feeds my monkey mind. Spirit energy is god. In this style WISDOM and CONNECTEDNESS is developed. I may be wrong but in my framework of thinking, this is where Spotless excels, and our points of view are like the coming together of yin and yang To me i feel the level one practices at depends on one's personality and stage of life. I am typically a thinker type person, so increasing my wisdom just feeds my monkey mind. By doing physical and chi level practices, my naturally thinking mind develops wisdom from my lower level practices without having to purposely develop wisdom. I confer then that perhaps people who are more physically orientated would benefit by doing more spiritual practices. This is important for the newcomer to healing tao. Trying to race to 'high' level practices because they want to win the race may be counter productive. The level of practice you concentrate on should depend on your personality. High level practice doesn't mean advanced, low level practice doesn't mean basic, it only refers to how high above the earth the control comes from. Now i kind of lied earlier in this answer. None of these powers are really god, they are demi-gods. GOD is incorperation of all 3 demi-gods so that you become GOD. At this level physical, emotional and spiritual insight all reinforce each other so that you KNOW you are right, you are in the NOW and KNOWING becomes the way. A simple example. I'm walking down the street and see a lady walking down the street in the opposite direction. I see her facial expression with absolute clairity (amazing clairty), i can see she is upset yet hiding it, (physical demi-god), i can feel/see with my third eye fear in her kidneys and urgency in her heart (emotional demi-god), i can sense that she wants to get away from her husband and to her mothers ( spiritual demi-god). I can now confer (if i was a real god i would KNOW) she has had an arguement with her husband, she is scared, and is going to her mothers. GOD level =) We get closer and closer to this god level the more we practice and become more advanced in each of, while also balancing the 3 levels. Until you reach higher levels, use the LDT as i described while answering your previous question, as the 2nd brain. Where do you feel it? These are only guides. It probably depends on your body shape and how big your belly is It will reveal it's self to you very quickly don't worry. Yes, start inside the body so you can feel the chi and open the orbit. Then expand out to the arms and legs, chi pressure will drop and you will have reduced sensation, but now you know what you are looking for it won't matter so much. You can now boost your chi using whatever means you have learnt so far (fusion is a nuclear power plant) and increase chi pressure however much you want evenly throughout the body. I took too long to expand my practice to my arms and my legs, it's now easy to develop blockages in my shoulders because of this (iron shirt kept my leg/hip channels wide). Iron shirt 2, expanding the shoulders fixes this. Qi stuck in the head.... well chi must want to go there if it's getting stuck there. Which part of the body is furthest from the head? The feet. Get that energy far away from the head, but don't lose it (a major problem with healing tao). Don't be afraid to give your chi away, or let it 'leak out'. At the start of the book it says stop leakages. It should read, learn how to control leakages, but don't hoard energy. There is plenty of energy that you can easily get to replace any leakages, it couldn't possibly leak out fast enough once you progress. You only stop leakage, or hoard the energy when opening the intial orbit. Later share it around and give it away or you will overheat. This took me a VERY long time of dedicated daily practice to really get. It depends on the heat of the energy (from an emotional perspective). In the book it says don't put too much hot energy in the heart or brain, cold energy is fine. You might understand it better from a physical perspective (all 3 paths up the mountain align). Heat is tension, cool energy is relaxedness. When you use hot chi you make the muscles around your heart tense. A tense heart is hard to pump and the ventricles within the heart reduce their volume making each pump less efficient. Don't put pressure on your heart for long periods of time is what it means. However hot and cold is subjective in the individual. I feel hot chi as not hot at all, it's more an intensity, speed and frequency of the vibration that is hot for me. After using hot chi a while it actually makes me feel more physically cold, probably because of the constriction of the blood vessels and arteries, reducing blood supply, but amping up the metabolic rate. TCM would say i burnt up my yin leaving me depleted and cold. Cold chi feels physically hot for me, but the vibration is slow, the metabolic rate is slow, muscles relax and blood vessles dilate increasing the blood flow and therefore the heat. The inner smile and cosmic inner smile are opposites. Inner smile is cooling and cosmic version is hot. This is a very important aspect of the whole healing tao practice. If i had of attended a course i probably would have got this a lot earlier on and saved lots of time. This distinction is just as important as the awareness / focus distinction. It needs to be mastered to be able to become GOD, the real GOD as described above. You need to clearly understand yin and yang before they can be fused and you can experience enlightenment at some level. Sorry, understanding is no use, you have to be able to do (I can still hear Mantak Chia's voice on the tape). I feel what i have written is a real gift for you if you chose to read it. It took me over 10 years of countless hours to practice and realise and understand these things. It's taken me another 2 hours to write it out for you. However, as Mantak Chia says, knowing is of no use, we must do it. And as i have written already in this thread, i think it is less important what you practice, but more important the time you put into practice. Share what you learn with others, healing tao is very rewarding, and knowing the answers from these koans will not really deter from the joy of first hand experience of these answers, you may even find your own answers different to mine. However knowing my version of these answers will hopefully help you progress using a western learning style :-) If it helps at all, i never attended a single workshop in my life, except that of becoming a Bowen Therapist, and learnt everything i know from practice from books. 90% Healing Tao books. I've gone down the wrong path plenty of times, make stacks of mistakes, but i feel i've mastered myself, and you can too. The most important lesson i could tell you is listen to yourself. Take advice, but try it out before taking it as gospel. You are the decider, you must understand, it's all about YOU. Enjoy

It is very complicated, agreed. With complexity comes a fast but disorientating path to percieved great power. What are the best results? What is your goal? Balance, calmness, keen observations power of mental faculties? Obviously that would be achieved if that is what you are practicing. But were pushing, pulling, powering up organs, strengthinging organs to physical martial arts attacks, or healing physically sick organs were the goal, then Iron Shirt would see the best results. Horses for courses, Practices for capabilities Mantak chia has a huge amount of course content. One can't read Chia's MCO book and understand what healing tao is all about. There are 3 levels, and each level goes to the peak of the mountain along a different route. One can't understand without climbing at least halfway on each route.

I see myself go into ritual, i know it is not healthy. It is good for getting work done, i can work like a madman, drink beers to slow down and sleep, then work again the next day, on and on, powering past others. Some of my best work of my life was done like this. The body doing the same things over and over again, while becomming more and more aligned and intune with the direction it's heading, eventually overdevelops certain muscle groups, certain mental thoughts, certain looping. It all comes to a crashing halt as it swings too far out of balance. What i have found is seeing and realising those overdevelopments early, using TCM theory of foods and qigong meditations to control and limit these overdevelopments both in physical organ tendon meridians within muscle groups and thought patterns, to pull ones self out of the loops that we loose ourselves within, with relative ease... as if there was no attachment to the ritual at all. To me kindness and justiceis the sweet spot to hang around between for health in society. Virtue.... perhaps if you're a hermit, otherwise somebody else might destroy your health. By being spontanious one does indeed learn to flow, and by feeling what is flowing one collects themselves, if you catch my drift (pun intended). I have experience of this, infact more experience than collecting myself first before learning to flow. The vast number of ways to practice qigong is amazing, and becomes aparrent discussing with others. It just sinks home yet again to myself that the most important part of qigong is practice, time spent practicing is much more important than what is practiced. Watching and learning of course are important too.

I like this. It will just bloom by it's self, that is eastern thought. But in the west we control every aspect and also bloom, but with big guns, warships, and medicines and operations that zap cancers and destroy enemies (or others that aren't our enemies). Constant work, finding ways to control the problems that our constant desire for control causes. Either that, or the eastern way, constant work, finding ways to ignore or overcome the temptations for control, where were we to exercise a few of those temptations it would lead us to find it easier to overcome further temptations. So then, we become good at controlling, so good that to an outsider it seems we aren't controlling at all.... or we become so good at flowing and going with the flow that to an outsider it seems we are controlling every single aspect of it.... or number 3, we control sometimes, and other times we flow, and to an outsider they still have no idea of what we are doing inside. It is all a funny game, round and round, no matter which way one looks at it. There is no right or wrong, there is only one's path, And that path should be one that the individual enjoys, else it is all for nothing. There is a time to control, and a time to allow to bloom, which is what you go on to say later. That is also the path i enjoy.

If energy and matter are inseprable, both exist together, then i pose the following.... If after one dies, their life force goes into the great pool of life, or heaven some may say, (they may also be reborn some may say), then they are immortal. Everyone is immortal, just they don't realise it, but some hope to realise it by doing qigong, or spiritualist practices etc. So... the same thing happens with the matter, the body dies, decomposes, goes into the great pool of matter (earth), then becomes reborn as plants, which are eaten by animals, which some elements or atoms of can become their offspring and it all goes around again. To me this is the easiest way to understand what happens to the spirit after death. So then it appears to me that part of the goals of some other practices is to become immortal, in that the individual spirit is retained as the individual once was so that they themselves may be immortal and live forever as they were... not to be immortal as in the the great pool of life or becomming a part of heaven as such. If this is the case, then the matter must also remain whole. People say around cemetrys there are lots of ghosts. There are bones there, their spirits will remain so long as their bones are not decomposed. I would guess that when the matter is all decomposed, so is the individual's spirit decomposed into heaven. Perhaps this is the slow way to go to heaven. What about cremation? Is that a shortcut into heaven? If you're cremated do you have a ghost, or are you absorbed by the pool of life as readily as the ash is absorbed into the earth? So then comes the mummification idea. If the person is mummified when they die, then would their ghost continue to exist as the individual, so that they don't seep back into the heaven. Is mummification a physical shortcut into individual immortality? The less or the slower the decomposition does that mean the more powerful or dense an individual's ghost is so that it can 'do' more on earth? Why would somebody want to rush to heaven? So that they can be more quickly reborn? I guess after your children, and their children die there's not a whole lot of point hanging around on earth as a ghost. I guess the egyption mummies are 'stuck' here now in our museums and can't go to heaven, can't be reborn. Their tombs have been robbed, opened, their civilizations have perished, but still their ghosts are here？ If an individual is fully enlightened it mustn't matter where they are, as a ghost, in heaven, or alive. But different people have different desires of what is fun. Donating ones organs is an example i believe in extending one's spirits presece here on earth, yet not fully whole. Not as whole as a mummy, but more easily able to interact with the world of the living. Not something i would want to do. Only half of what i have written is from experience, the other half is from scientific adaption and prediting using what i know and feel. But in my opinion it makes sense. I'm not a ghost talker or listener, if anyone knows better please post! From my mussings, enjoy the light of the day, there are alot worse places to be for those not fully enlightened!

Yeah i agree. However that is what i find is the beauty of qigong. Gaining consious control over you're body functions that most people can't do. It's learning new ways to play with your body, it's addictive and fun. It's not easy and takes years and years to master. It's like an art, like drawing, or painting, but the canvas and paints are setup infront of you always no matter where you are, all day and all night. A blending of TCM theory with qigong. Mantak chia has several different approaches, spiritual, physical, emotional, and they all end up at the same place. Different ways work better for different people. Mantak chia has combinded them all into a system, using TCM theory as the foundation for the first two levels so that one can experience the interactions between the elements themselves... at many different levels. Mantak Chia's methods give the practitioner access to limitless amounts of chi. It's a bit like nuclear power. How big do you make the bomb? Need to be careful you don't blow yourself up. But power is good too. First we thought a hand saw was great for cutting down a tree, then we got two handed saws, and that was the bees knees, double the power. Then i guess larger and larger chainsaws came out and we could chop hundreds of trees down in the time it took to chop down one with a stone axe. More power, more possibilities, more ability. Build up slowly though, you learn to use a hand saw before you use the largest chainsaw available, or end up chopping off your leg. I also like this. Finding ones own way. There are lots of good ways, we can try several different approaches and use what works best for us. After all once you have experienced what your aim for is in qigong, there are so many more things one can do, and things to explore. Answering the OP, you will know you have it right when it does it's self. You will know you are advancing when you need to do less to get to the same point. You will know you are there when the chi dissapears and you just 'live'. I like all the answers in this post. Just do it how you think. You can use strength, but eventually that strength will give way. Use strength but be receptive too. But most of all just practice, there is no substitute. You need do nothing more than practice to find out how to do it right. The right way will be shown to you, that is something you can feel confident in

I think you've got your answer right there. It's easy to be swayed by what others think, or the way something is taught and overlook you're own wisdom, knowledge and insight from the person with the closest experience to the problem. 7 years of practice is nothing to sneeze at, i'm sure you're capable of knowing and fixing the problem. Prehaps start developing the other centers, condition them, then go back to your original practice as see how the sensation compares. If you note improvement, this could be a good path to follow. In healing tao in more advanced levels all 3 centers are developed. Just a suggestion of something else to try if you don't want to keep doing it the same way and smash you're way through. I have no doubt that the 'putting gentle awareness on lower dantien' gradually develops all dantiens, as excess chi bubbles up to the next dantien, i have noticed in my own practice that if i direct focus/intent as well as simple awareness to the lower dantien, that the higher dantiens empty out and chi is redirected, overcompressing and overloading the lower dantien with chi. I haven't experienced any side effects from doing this, it seems a great source of power, however releasing my intent and just being aware in a balanced fashion i feel all three dantiens fill with chi in a calm and balanced way. As i mentioned before, i'm not sure of your method or using full lotus, but it could be that you're focus/intent and awareness is different from other's, and because you've been doing it such a long time it feels normal the way you're doing it. It could be a topic to discuss with the others in you're group if you would like more consensus as to what you may be doing differently from the others. However i think the most important thing is listen to you're self, you are most likely correct.

Does it matter that Einstein got his idea from Poincare? I could bet that every expert borrowed many ideas from many others on their way to expertism. You're point here seems invalid. As to the usefulness of the quote, well it wouldn't be quoted so many times if people didn't find the idea useful. You are right, it is common sense. To me, relying on a chaos dynamics theory for meditation is counter productive in my practice. Sure, if you crash into a closed door, you will bump / bruise your head. Next time you will bruise your head a little more. After 100x perhaps your head would start to bleed. Maybe after 1000x you will break through the door and enter the next room. If you stayed there and didn't enter the next room, but continued to move back and forth through the open doorway, continuing for another 1000 million times, perhaps you may be zipped through a portal to another realm. Who knows it's all possible hey. I prefer trying something different, based on my 'misquote'. If the second or third time i try turning the knob and the door swings open, i've saved myself getting a bloody head, or in this case getting a zapped heart.

I've practice for around 10 years without a teacher so i have come across problems myself with no teacher to ask for help also. Prehaps what you have is a habit. Doing something you enjoy which has actually become a habit and a problem in it's self. Prehaps you need to just take another direction. Do what makes you feel good, not what makes you feel uncomfortable. You can build power fast now, good, develop the balancing and controlling or uncontrolling aspect of it. Balance is good, habit causes imbalance. Perfect balance is even a habit in it's self and unbalancing as crazy as it sounds. I have used taobums to help me lots in the past, by asking questions or reading other peoples. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't, however often later on i realise what some other people have said actually were good antidotes, however i usually found my own way around each problem. Learning on my own i make more mistakes, come across more problems, but my understanding becomes deeper and wider because of no teacher. I know why things work and why things don't. The answer to problems are right infront of my nose i just need to see them. Here are some simple things you can try... Try spiralling the energy. You can at least condense the energy clockwise where you want it instead of racing through your body out of control. If you would rather try disperse the energy spiral anti clockwise. When spiralling clockwise don't expand your awareness out or you'll get even more energy. I hear feet on the ground helps to process the earth energy before it comes into your body instead of full lotus. Full lotus, i can't do it properly so i don't know. However it seems that the gall bladder meridian is stretched out to hell when the rest of the body is not so i don't see how this could be 'balance' or good from TCM theory. Not unless it is a part of a yoga workout where every other organ meridian is also stretched out. Stupid is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Change, break the habit, allow balance to re-enter. Good luck

Massive change in time perception. Without meditation, i feel like i don't have time for anything, always just task after task with no rest. With meditation, i feel i have time for everything. I can do something right now, or at least start it. The problem is meditation takes time also, so it is a bit of a catch 22

Oh and i wouldn't meditate. Some certain types of meditation may help but a delusional mind cant be trusted to choose the right one and will most likely reinforce its own delusions.

Eat 3 meals a day, sleep every day try for at least 8 hrs, do plenty of walking. No drugs. Wait. You are tripping out.

Drugs are poisons that people take in certain doses routinely and don't die. I guess they are pleasurable or they wouldn't keep taking them. At least if these were the poisons u took u might get desirable results and something to try to replicate using chi. I have never heard of someone addicted to snake poison. But if u want to feel what it feels like to die there are many methods

I like your reasoning, and its commendable. To me ethics is a bit of a muddled up mess because there are several different schools of thought, i forget their names but i had to do ethics for my computer science degree. Perhaps i seem cold because i wouldn't mind you lying to me in those circumstances if i was the employer. The main thing is you made the right choice for you. Binding and liberating. For those without ethics they are liberated already but likely to be bound in chains by everyone else

You may not want to be lied to, but you surely will be. Animals and plants lie to each other through disguises and tricky appearances. This is god, this is Tao. I think its impossible to take a fully spiritualist path without having some lower virtuous traits, after all Tao seeks balance. A lie is a lie, truth is nothing but A truth, and what is real is what is real. Flow and change is inevitable and so long as one thinks, they need to think up ways to feel good about those thoughts. What if you didn't think? Would you still be lying?

The best thing about ethics and following one of these Asian philosophies is that ethics can be switched around every which way. Its apparent in Asian culture with the high level of corruption. Most people lie in interviews, i think interviewers expect it and those who dont get left behind. What if that tiny fib got you the job and you made them lots of money because you loved it so much, more money than the next guy who ended up with the job. I think the main question is would your heart be more comfortable in the long run knowing you told a little white lie but doing what you love and getting paid, or working a different job or currently no job and getting government handouts from everyones tax money Of course you could always just apply and in the interview just explain the situation, they may be fine with it. That's what i would try.

MMmmm not repair physical deformity on it's own, it needs certain exercises and massage too. There are exercises to do that can improve eyesight that have worked for lots of people. But chi can make somebody asymptomatic for physical problems that still exist.

Yes, there is a free guided inner smile meditation on the healing tao website. Just follow that but pay particular attention to the lungs.