Biff

'Rods of Ra' sounds like an underground gay club. Not that I have anything against smokers. There could well be something to these well marketed, incredibly overpriced, cheap to make pieces of metal full of very cheap bits of crystal etc. They say you should not attempt to make your own at a fraction (well less then that) of the price because they will not work unless the have been made 'the right way' Anyway... my opinion is that they are nothing more then a 'tool' that focuses intent. Just like Reiki symbols... they are not needed at all. Save your money and get one of these...

I had no idea about all that. Thanks for the reply. It's also the first I have heard about fear to visit you guys etc. I stand corrected and have removed my previous post out of respect.

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Errr... what bullshit is this? Naruto in sage mode would own that motherfucka.

So how long did you practice Kunlun? Just kidding :-) this must be the longest most viewed thread of all time.

lol.. Hmmm, wanted to say that I'm not better then Fimbo and neither is most anyone else. No matter what the 'achievement' or level we are all trying to find our way to the next one. Even when everything is auspicious, further content will either come from teaching and helping or retreating to further develop. If we can learn anything from Fimbo it's to blindly accept what a 'Guru' tells us is as much stupidity as watching TV all day. Fimbo may be rude but he is sincere in his dedication to seek the truth. There are so many who are content with the mundane. Behind the 'language' there appears to be an intent that I believe will lead him to find what he seeks. What's really interesting is the internal response we have to post's that do not agree with us (that include me and Fimbo). This is how we can truly grade our progress. Do we become angry? direct hate? or do we direct something more positive. It has been said that TTB is a mountain of negative posts and bad vibes. But we gaze into the mirror of all that is and what we see is a reflection of ourselves. Good luck Brother Fimbo!

He is a laugh... I don't think he even knows if he's coming or going. Here are some great Fimbos contradictory quotes; Good for a laugh! Hope you have fun in China Fimbo

Not entirely to my knowledge but Dr Morris taught spider breathing that can do the same thing.

Hello Jeremy, Sounds like a secretion of the pineal gland. If I'm not mistaken the Sun meditation is a third eye yang meditation. I think there is a moon/yin one as well. Well done. I'm not an SFQ practitioner myself but these practices overlap sometimes. Drew is the resident SFQ guy and will know more then me. The fragrance is a common thing though.. Dr Yan Xin (one of Chunyi Lins's teachers) actually emitted this kind of smell when he healed. Well done and keep training!

Well if you were a hermaphrodite you'd be all set. In all seriousness, do you think you could have achieved what you did without Chunyi Lin giving you the transmission?

Your input is much appreciated as you clearly have more experience and knowledge with the practices Max teaches then any current Kunlun instructor/facilitator/student/representative that actively posts. You have answered questions others have been unable to. You did this with clear insight and without reference to beings from Andromeda. It's nice that when you have answered someone, it's in regular English rather then a parable or a post that exists for only a few seconds before being replaced with or even To me your agenda is clear, it's to help. You have done more for these practices then anyone ever has on this forum (or other). It's quite possible that you have saved what this place and the negativity of others almost crushed. No small feat! Thank you -O-

I second that What a perfect summary.. 'You are as powerful as you give yourself permission to be'

Sorry if I did misinterpreted you, I stand corrected. I'm sure your willingness to help is nothing new and you have been at this since the beginning. I guess you answer everyone's questions on the Kunlun forum when they are posted too anyways... It's a shame that it's private as people who are looking into the practice have only the B$ on here to read. I would assume that any Q and A that might be on that forum would have detailed feedback from qualified teachers that might answer so much for any aspiring KLuners (dating back years even). Unfortunately here it's mostly just students advising students.... Even if it was read only to non-k people I would assume all the questions/experiences that have been asked and answered by kunlun instructors over the years would be beneficial to the uninitiated and clear up lots. It's great that you do offer help via PM but I assume people on the K forum have always had access to this help so a valuable resource to those wanting to train?

It's true, The only real accusation here did not come from -O-. Several were directed towards him though.

Think you missed my point. But it does not matter really. FYI I have defended Max and you many times, again this is irrelevant. There are ways and means to deal with things, you have chosen your way. My opinion is your behaviour does just as much damage as TexasKnobs. You know who -O- is, take it offline. Better still why doesn't Max give him a call? -O- might have made an accusation but has on this one thread done more to help people with the practice then you ever have. You are all about marketing. You need a real backbone, when you stop hiding behind Max and finally teach yourself you will begin to grow. Like you say there will always someone that will feel slighted. Recognise your words and position has influence here and there will be less of them (the slighted) moving forward. You left here saying you will not answer questions and you have had enough. Now your back talking like a schoolkid. I can because I'm nobody, but you are the face of Kunlun. Is this what you want it to continue to be?

It's agreed that -O- is not the average poster. Everyone has agenda.... but in the continual debate/attack and defense what are we doing to this practice? What will be achieved by taking another down or even proving them wrong? beside feeding the demands of ego. This is spoken towards everyone reading. To the enlightened (no not Fimbo) everything is auspicious and none of this matters. If there is enough light, there is no shadow cast. lol. Winpro07, you have had openings with this practice. What would be great is an unedited description of how this practice has helped you. If you and Chris and KL facilitators were to perhaps put practice journals or some real experiences down rather then random posts containing riddles an parables then things can move forward. So far we have heard of people with issues. This thread was started by Kyle with bad intentions. That has attracted nothing but negativity to it. You, Chris, Eileen etc can change things by posting your good experiences and life changes right here on this site. A kind answer turns away wrath, and humility will neutralize pride. You have the power to create from intention, do not get drawn into negativity and have your power used against you. This thread should be locked.

-O- is just as entitled to share his experiences as you are. He has been in this game longer then you, please stop trying to be the golden boy. You (well, Max) have done a lot to help people but you are making things worse yourself by attacking. Use the principle of Tai Chi and yield because you are only displaying a lack of emotional control. Like it or not, you have a responsibility to conduct yourself correctly in public. You must have the insight to see how your words will be perceived by people of lower vibration and choose what you say carefully. Saying you don't care... you may think you guys have finished but you are an ambassador of Kunlun and always will be. When Kunlun speaks, all ears are listening. Again, most people have not. So their judgements are based on your words as well as others. Speaking of what you have seen means nothing to the outsider. You know this and it is why you have not shared half of what you have seen. This did not have to be shared. Again consider the judgement of the outsider if you are really trying to protect Max. Master Chun Yi Lin has healed cancer and many others and he does not vomit black blood. A shamanic healer gets stronger with each healing. In Kunlun it has already been said to give makes you stronger yourself. Do you see what is meant by perception? This was the worst comment you made. And most likely the worst you have ever made. How dare you put the well being of you and your friends over others. No matter how insignificant you think other people are outside of your group, you have no right to be so disrespectful. You have a duty, and even if you think that it is only to protect Max and his image then you must at least pretend to care. In this realm of duality it's strange how one brother can ruin the reputation and standing of an upright family. In this place, words are actions. Max has done much and is a true Bodhisattva. But consider that 90% of this Kunlun crowd have been primarily fed by you!! You are the voice of Max here and have created the image that currently exists. Even those whom have been to several seminars have perhaps only listen to Max for a few hours... but you are the true face behind the image you have created. You have expected students to talk among themselves and help each other. You cannot expect any more then has happened. Take responsibility if you will criticize their words. Growth and development take time. To have a child and leave it on the sidewalk is wrong. Once you have issued life/opened the eyes of a student... you must take the responsibility to raise them in the right direction. This is quite disrespectful and a direct threat. You already stated earlier that you have not even read the whole post. Your words and actions are not those of someone who has helped a single soul. Do not take credit on Max's behalf. Please do not also pass judgement on people so easily as you know not how they may have helped others. Unlike the pharisee some do good deeds in private. You have made enough money, why threaten to make more? I think if you want to talk about legality you will be in a world of shit :-) be very careful. Max is a nice guy, stop ruining him. <quote edited - moderator>

Bless you Rain. I wish I could help you out :-) good luck on your journey.....

Lol.. you have not offended me at all :-) I'm just playing about.

Why edit all that stuff from your post? Anyway to answer your questions Hyok... Of course it is. Are you insinuating that I'm not entitled to one? or that yours is more important somehow? Oh... and how is that? Please explain because I'm sure you said... What you were really saying is you do not value anything anyone has said so far. Then you tried to mask your words further by claiming you are not that person. Pride wrapped in humility? Right.... ok yes and... For sure, of course... err did I tell you my experiences? Or are you making them up based on your judgements of me? What points are those? You said you were not an expert. Are you an expert or not? please teach us then guru. The duration and instances of what? And how can you determine the level of a persons health? Can you see energy bodies? Your statement sounds almost like you can make a diagnosis. Are you a doctor? Where did you learn this information? Do you have a fully awaken Kundalini? Are you talking from experience here? Ok. Don't you mean affects it? not effect it. So you don't know? But you said.. Lets not drag this on into another long post about who has the biggest dick. I'm just here for fun really to be honest. Ask Santi if you really want to know... he's the guru. If you think you got what it takes do 100 days and then come back and boast (if you still feel it's necessary). It's all about mind state. Hoarding is no good. Darin did 100 days... great results. Now he realises that he must give... he must teach to progress. Take with the left, give with the right. Why hoard and hoard. Don't be guilty if you spill... smile and give it to the universe. Bless you anyway. Claiming nothing about myself... take it with a pinch. Lol. Learning to give and not hoard changed shit for me. When I send energy to my wife she can see it and it has changed her. She wants to share me out (I'm serious) and has turned from a 'born again christian' asexual woman to a bisexual try anything goddess. This sexual energy is powerful stuff... careful. Like previously stated.. I'm not claiming 'I' am anything. There is always new stuff to learn. Thanks to Smile, in a week or so I will be wearing an Aneros up my ass. You.... are beautiful. Love those eyes..... Biff.

There are two types of evolution. Outwards into the spawning of new life and inwards into the development of the self. The key to retention is not to be focused on the fear of loosing jing. That misguided intent creates problems and will lead to failure. Do not be afraid to have a wank. But don't go and try to fill a milk bottle either. Honestly, it happens naturally with the right training. To someone who can transmute or can separate jizz from the bizz it's not so much an issue. Like I said it happens naturally. You obviously think you know enough to make the judgement that no one else knows. lol. An attempt to appear humble as transparent as glass. It is obvious that too much wanking will 'make you blind' and there will not be enough energy for the third ventricle to open and the inner eye to see. But then extreme retention and over yang addiction will give you balls like David Verdesi. Both extremes are no good. But then to visit each extreme.... perhaps you will then find the middle path.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. People read way too much into things. Max is trained in lots of different systems and styles. None of it has anything to do with Kunlun directly. He spent 29 years with Lum sifu. You think all he learned was Red Phoenix? Kunlun is a combination (primarily as more can be taught) of two of the highest practices he has learned (and willing to teach publicly). Both of them Maoshan but from different sources. Out of the many different styles he has learned and after many years of dedication he has stated that everything he has achieved can be done with the practices he has put together to call Kunlun. So yes, he may have Bonpo but that has nothing to do with Kunlun. He knows and teaches lots of shamanic stuff to some people but does not call it Kunlun. The fact is he has spent a lifetime training. Most people that comment on him have spent a few years at most even the hopping from one system to the next learning from DVD's lol. Out of that lifetime of training he has discovered that all he achieved can be done with the two practices he called Kunlun. Understanding that peoples egos need history and linage, he created that also. Right or wrong it was done in order to pass this teaching on. Direct experience over time (not two months fimbo, lol) is the only way to find out what is bullshit and what is not. So many people of these forums want to put in their 2 cents and feel important. Giving advice when they know nothing about their own self. Like a fat person giving advice on health and nutrition we must be cautious of what anyone tells us. Only by doing we will know. And by doing I'm talking years not hours or months. You think your going to loose that fat belly in a week?

The trap is the attachment to it and the attutude of 'must not loose a drop!'. There is no logic to some things.... how can we gain energy by fasting for example? There is nothing wrong with 'conserving jing' and cooking it. But will you give it back to the earth or the universe? If we use heaven and earth breathing as an example.... when you take the energy from heaven, cook it and then send it to the earth, the earth will automatically send you back more. And vice versa. Now I have taken energy and cooked it then given it away with awe and respect. This way I am open, for it is better to give then to receive. But by nature I will receive more. Hoarding I will have less. There is a period for cooking as this is the nature of alchemy but if the stream is not flowing then the water will become stagnant. If I take with my left hand I must give back with my right. Try as you might you can never keep everything you take anyway. If you take water from the ocean and boil it into steam it will eventually fall back to the source. And so we can realise I AM now, or realise it on the other side. The unfortunate nature of retention for most practitioners is that it becomes an attachment. With the loss of semen comes guilt and feelings of failure. What I have not seen anyone speak of yet (much) is transmuting. If you cannot cook the WTF are you doing in the kitchen. Someone who knows how to cook (transmute sexual energy) will understand the ingredients of their recipe and will share what they have cooked. To keep adding to the pot endlessly will cause it to overflow and the flame that burns will be put out. Since you mention Santi I assume you know him or do KAP or something. So I wonder, how does retention fit in with Giri? He may retain but I assume he can transmute and does he not give freely to his students? all I read and hear is how he is freely giving shakti! so what the left hand takes the right hand gives. I wonder if Santi might agree that giving brings in 100x more energy then hoarding. Thanks enough for now... I am busting for a crap.... night. Biff

This statement is truth. The Loss of Jing concept is a Taoist trap. A control mechanism and is designed to use your own intent to manifest. The most important thing to remember is intention. Are you going to hoard and solidify the illusion of separation or wake up and realise I AM. You cannot loose until you intend to. Will you allow your intention to be controlled by belief? We must ask ourselves what this hoarding mentality of 'store as loss will make me weak' creates. Now it can work for you of course. But what is working is magnified intent through discipline (regardless of any truth). The truth is, give and you will receive 100 fold in return. "For Where Your Treasure Is, There Your Heart Will Be Also" Matthew 6:19-24