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Hi Dam, Take away the name "san bao" and we still have what the name points to, but what is that? Energy. The physical body has a vibrational threshold. Between it's lower and higher ranges, physical and non-physical matter exist and interact with each other at different frequencies of movement. As humans we are a product of the mixing of Yin and Yang and within us we have both a negative and a positve pole ie: Bai Hui and Hui Yin. To maintain our health, well being and to evolve our spiritual capacities, we need to charge both poles by absorbing energy from their respective sources. From the Earth, we receive food, water and air and the subtle Yin energies of the planet. From the Heavens, we receive sunlight and moonlight and the subtle Yang energies of that which is beyond. Our two poles are connected by a third, which is located between the extremes. The top vibrates near the upper threshold of normal human function, while the bottom vibrates near the lower threshold of human function. To interface the two there is a center. Thus we have the Shang Dantien, The Zhong Dantien and the Xia Dantien. They are interconnected, both directly and forward and reverse-cyclically. The energies of the UDT represent unlimited potential and our imagination is endless, boundless, like the endless sea of the Wuji. There is nothing that we can't think of. There is nothing that we can't imagine. Nothing is unfathomable, but nothingness itself. This is why to enter emptiness during Jingzou, we must abandon even our concept of emptiness, for that in itself is a form of the mind, which if pursued will lead you away from the Wuji rather than into it. In fact you must even abandon "entering", for to enter means there is a place of being, a location and this yet again is a trap of the mind which will only damper your progress. To enter emptiness you must go beyond the mind or, to enter Wuji you must go beyond Taiji, the domain of the discriminative mind. The creative potential of the UDT energies, the ideas and thoughts and imaginings, are nothing on their own. If you only had a mind you would be akin to a person in most comas; able to think, but not to express the energy of the mind. The physical body, the bones, the muscles, the bio-mechanical system which grants us locomotion, the teeth, the tongue, the lungs and larynx etc. which gives us our voice are all physical capacities for the expression of the UDT energies. First we think, then we feel, then we act, and although not always in this order, the three always remain connected. The physical body is a vehicle for the expression of our divine nature which is intrinsic to us. When the energies that sustain the physical body weaken beyond repair and their vibration becomes so slow that they begin to resemble that of dense matter such as wood and rocks and soil, then it can no longer house the energies of the MDT which vibrate much quicker, neither that of the UDT, which are even faster. A disconnection occurs and a dissolution takes place. The body (Jing) - YIN. Our permanent vessel, now dead, is burried and returns to the Earth, for it is only temporary. The energy (Qi) - Disperses. The spirit (Shen) - YANG. Our dormant immortal body, now lacking a vessel through which to express its unlimited nature in the physical realm, is driven back into the current of energies that dictate the delicate balance of Taiji and after time it is directed into a new vessel once more ad infinitum. Each of these three energies can be strengthened. We absorb nutritious food and our bones can repair themselves, our muscles can grow and our organs can be renewed. In this way our Jing can be vitalised. We can absorb the subtle energies of our environment to cleanse and invigorate our Qi and we can meditate and absorb the energies of the heavens to develop our Shen. Although direct sources of these energies can be obtained, each of them affects the other indirectly. Because we reside within Taiji, because we are a product of Taiji, everything that exists in one way, can exist in it's opposite. Thus, if our JING can be weakened to cause death, then our JING can be strengthened to bring about life. This is the foundation of Hou Tian cultivation. Through subtle observations, ancient Taoists were able to understand that there were ways in which the JING could be conserved, but much more than that, strengthened. In it's utmost Yin state JING would cause a transformation of the body causing death, but when conserved and built up to large quantities it would reach a state of Yang, which when maintained near it's threshold, would eventually break through and transform into something different. It would be transmuted into Qi. This Qi when continuously fed by more JING and circulated appropriately within the network of the energy system would activate different capacities within the body, allowing the practitioner to experience a different dimension of his existence. Many super-normal abilities are developed which when used regularly deplete the Qi. With continous use, the new threshold cannot be broken. [Althought JING QI and SHEN have different names, they are one energy in different forms which exist simultaneously] By adhering to further regulation and "dieting", the QI could build up from it's Yin state into a peak of strong Yang Qi, which with time can break it's threshold and transform into yet another form of energy; YIN SHEN. When the Yin Shen is concentrated and developed to it's peak, it will give birth to Yang Shen. At this level, although there have been three cycles of waxing and wanning; Yin Jing > Yang Jing, Yin Qi > Yang Qi, Yin Shen > Yang Shen, and 3 threshold have been broken. These thresholds are still within the vibratory capacity of the physical body. However in this direction of development, the SHEN will not leave the body as product of overwhelming weakness as caused during death, but due to overwhelming strength. As the Yang Shen nears the threshold of the physical body, the physical-mind of the brain will have reached a state of fusion with the passive/dormant mind of the soul. The fusion of the physical mind with that of the dormant-soul, means we can now exercise a mental order to directly detach the soul from the body, since they are now functioning as one conscious unity. There are several processes which take place here which overlap each other and they all work together beautifully to re-member us to our dormant soul, so that we can be awakened. The soul is akin to Wuji. Limitless potential. It's not up or down or left or right or strong or weak. These are manifestations of the dichotomy of Taiji. These are manifestations OF potential. Our immortal dormant soul. The part of us that never dies, is a spark of the Wuji. In essence our original nature IS unlimited potential, but it lacks the means to express that potential. It needs a medium with a mind which can give birth to imagination, the precursor to creation. We are in a way like Zeus without his thunderbolt or perhaps Mozart without his keyboard. Unable to express our potential. When our dormant immortal soul inhabits a body and is born into the world it establishes a connection to the physical brain and the physical body as a means of expression. In the early years of development, its pure nature still shines brightly, but the body is young and the brain underdeveloped, so there is little it can do to express itself. As the brain gows and our intellect develops, we form the ACQUIRED MIND of the Brain, but as the function of the acquired mind grows, and our cognition develops we yet again fall under the rule of Taiji; our earthly mind grows (Yang), while the Heavenly mind wanes (Yin). While this process is still underway, young children you will find have much greater access to the plethora of trans-reincarnational experiences readily stored within the soul. They can recollect past lives, see higher dimensions and easily tap into talents previously developed in former lifetimes. But only one mind can be in the foreground at a time, so as the physical mind of the brain grows the heavenly mind disappears. As children we will exhibit the characteristics which most predominantly define our current level of evolution and intelligence, but ironically in a very primitive way due to the restrictions of the developing intellect. Parents should be very careful to pick wisely, which of these attributes they promote and which not, because our refinement begins with our parents. If they screw it up, its not easy to get back on the right track. It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. By the time we reach maturity, the soul is firmly in the background and our acquired mind is in control of the reigns. A product of sense information from sound, sight, thought, smell, taste and touch, the acquired mind thrives when it is in motion, when it is analyzing, when it is absorbing, when it is expanding and growing. If we don't use it to stop it. It will continue to occupy the seat of consciousness and leave no room for the soul. But please bear in mind that, the acquired mind is not simply something to be gotten rid of. It is a quintessential ingredient to the complete awakening of the soul. It is the YANG of the YIN and we need to fuse them together. The dormant soul is a silent recorded of events experienced by the body and synthesized by the acquired mind of the brain. Even if the brain exploded at age 25 and the physical body died, the dormant soul will still retain all information up to the death of the brain. The soul on it's own is just limitless potential without a means of expression. The body on it's own is just a piece of meat without something to express. To simply think, "my soul leaves my body" will not trigger conscious awakened immortality, albeit temporary forms of this are possible during OBEs. In order to move the soul and harness it's potential, that is, in order to awaken ourselves, we must fuse the intellect of the acquired mind, but not the actual brain! The brain is simply the physical mass. What we must do is FUSE the product of the brain; the mind with that of the soul. In this way we endow the soul with the power to manifest. The power to IMAGINE. When you combine the power of the acquired mind to IMAGINE with that of the soul as unlimited POTENTIAL, you give birth to the awakened immortal soul. No longer dormant. It now has a mind to express itself directly within it's non-physical form, without the need of a physical body. Now acting as one entity, the awakened (no longer dormant) immortal soul, can now simply wish itself out of the body. The difference? It now has mind. It now has thought. I believe we are all sparked from the Tao in this way. Potential but dormant souls. Through our endless journeys from one life into another, we seek to develop ourselves so that one day we will have the experience and know how to fuse the acquired-mind to the dormant soul in order to endow it with mind and liberate it from its constant return to Taiji in search of completing itself. The foundations of meditation are such that the aim is to still the acquired mind to a point whereby it no longer occupies the space it normally does. During these sessions of low occupancy of the acquired mind, we begin to see glimmers of what is in the background; the dormant soul and we slowly and gradually begin to re-member, to re-collect ourselves into one. Although this is all very broadly spoken, there are many processes inbetween that account to all this happening. The longer we stay in emptiness during Jingzuo, the stronger our connection to our dormant soul becomes and the more powerful our connection to divine power. Soon we can use the analytical mind to peer into the endless archives of the souls experiences, to look into former lives on record, to access previous talents and information amassed before and to experience and control the divine energy within the soul and Shen aspect of the energy complex which will allow you to express yourself more prominently as your true form; that of the Immortal God. At the peak of this process; the fussion of the emotions, the energy and the mind with the dormant soul, produce the awakened immortal. One complete entity capable of divine expression in both physical and non physical form. Now you may stay within your body until it's natural death or abandon it's shell. Your soul, or YOU are now ONE. Awakaned. With your mind, and will, capable of thinking, you no longer are subject to the current of the Taiji, thus need not reincarnate. It is all about raising the energy from the Eearthly to the Heavenly. But this is fusion. This is why it is so important that the vessel must be cleaned before serious Neidan. The pot must be washed before clean water is poured in and boiled, or even the vapor will be repulsive. XYP still uses the conventional San Bao model of alchemical relationships and it adheres to all it's laws and reactions, however instead of absorbing earthly energy and utilising the potentials of the body to nourish the JING first, in order to raise the vibration from low to high, we connect to a source of unlimited Shen energy beyond the body which nourishes our Shen directly. This means that our peak Yang threshold is broken very early in cultivation, which accounts for many instances of conscious out of body experiences while meditating amongst Tao Yu in our school. The higher vibrational Shen energy envelops the body of the practitioner during initiation and is amplified while interfacing with your Fu Fa Shen during practice as well as while practicing with other Tao Yu. Our Shen Gong practice acts to transform the high vibrations of Shen received during Tao Yin Shu practice and steps them down into Qi and JING. The practice itself is a catalyst to enabling the reverse transmutation of Shen to Qi to JING. The process is quite literally flipped at this point during cultivation. Because of this altered sequence of events, access and development of super-normal abilities and recollection of information stored within the dormant immortal soul is increased as a result of the rapid stimulation of the Shen energy. As the Shen Gong practice is continued it progresses in stepping down the vibration from the UDT to the MDT to the LDT. All energy can be converted, forward or backwards. As the QI accumulates, it helps clear the meridians in preparation for further processess. When it gets to the LDT, our Qigong practice begins. Here different breathing exercises are carried out under the administration of FFS. This helps compress the energy into the LDT until it eventually rotates. This phase is similar to all authentic cultivation practices and most people here will be familiar with this. Once the LDT is enegized to capacity, it's energy is coaxed through specific non-conventional directional combinations along the REN and DU channels in order to bring and hold the energy in the UDT. It is of my opinion that all three Dantien play a very important role and they each contain specific ingredients which are extremely valuable and necessary for the successful completion of the alchemical process. Eventhough we begin from the top in XYP, we still journey down to the LDT before we route the energy back up to the UDT. Once the Qigong practices are complete, the final phase in our cultivation is undertaken. Once again, this is similar to other schools. Our form of meditation is Tai Yin Jing Zou Gong: empty mind, empty body. Now that we have purified the vessel and mixed and raised the complete vibration to near threshold levels of the body's peak potentials. It's time for the final push. In this phase you will sit and meditate while Fu Fa Shen helps guide and stir your mind into the Wuji for the final leap. The dormant immortal soul (YIN) enters the body and uses it to produce the acquired mind of the brain (Yang). Then the acquired mind of the brain uses it's will to fuse with the soul (through cultivation) which combines the microcosm of heaven and earth into one, creating the awakened immortal. There are countless benefits to becoming initiated with XYP, but my words can only encourage. You'll never know until you try it for yourself, until then everything I say is as much the truth as it is a lie. Indeed. This is something very important, which I feel people need to understand. The worldy life is a like a school to your FFS. Your body is the laboratory. There are countless opportunities within society which your FFS will avail of to refine your body, energy and spirit. If you exclude yourself from the influence of the world, you reduce your recources. The body is easy to refine, so is the subtle energy, but the Shen and aspects of the mind are very difficult to remedy without the opportunity to facillitate the creation of lessons from which to learn from. The kite flies highest against the wind. How can we become an immortal if we have not yet become a human? There is more to the meaning of human and humanity that goes beyond the text-book definition of homosapien. Introspection is paramount to development. I can't emphasize how important it is to constantly revise yourself. There are times when your FFS or another FFS of higher authority will test you for up to half a year. This doesn't mean the immortal will simply ask you a question and wait for you to answer or give you a task to perform. No. You're analyzed during every waking and probably sleeping moment of your day for the duration of that period. What you think, what you say, what you feel, how you act, how you treat people etc. There is nothing you can hide from your FFS. It is an extremely humbling experience for many people and you will never have felt quite this "naked" in your life. As we refine the subtle aspects of our mind, we come closer to representing the name of our school and a prominent concept in Taoist philosophy; Xiao Yao. To be carefree, easy going, free, unrestrained. To be able to express yourself naturally and to revert back to the non-discriminative mind of the young child. To attain Qingjing. We have a wonderful community of Tao Yu and every Tao Yu I have met till date have been remarkable people. Kind and humble and loving. They all see beyond their current existence and when we look at each other we see ourselves, because we understand that we are all connected as one. We are all walking each other home.

Rightly so should you be, but it is only when our desire for the truth overcomes our fear of our reality, that we can experience true meaning. The endless perversions of mainstream Western spirituality and religion are not founded on actually providing the answer or gratifying you with the truth. Rather they will tell you that there is in fact an answer. That it does indeed exist, but then trick you into believing yourself to never be worthy of it. You are constantly a sinner in pursuit of the Lords forgiveness and you spend all your life cleansing yourself that you might walk on the path, rather than actually walking the path directly. "God" would not have given us the ability to do something only to punish us for doing it. It would be a sick little game then wouldn't it? Everything is permissible, but we must mature and follow our internal compass and learn how to discern that which causes sadness and pain from that which causes happiness and pleasure. It is only then that we can find the mid-point between the two. It is there that the truth lies. In the emptiness. Poor Jesus. - "Are you the son of God?" - "I am the son of God." - "Blasphemer! Crucify him!" It is such a pure statement, with so much meaning. The right to express your divine nature, your origin. "I am, the son of God." - I am of the energy of the universe, as it is of me. It is beautiful. But people wouldn't understand this today, much less folks several thousand years ago. There are those people whom are so scared of the truth, that they avoid it at all costs. They like the idea of the truth. Oh it's tantalizing. They love to be tickled by it. Seduced by it. But they will never dare to unravel it fully, for what purpose thereafter would their lives have? They prefer the fantasy to the reality for there they can retain their control. It is not extremely committed, nor a difficult operation. I can tell you right now that you commit more time to having breakfast every morning. And difficult? ...nothing could be easier or more natural, but the mind is overbearing. It's shadow is great. So we think and analyze. How do we do.. when do we do... is this ok... is that ok... should i this or that. No. Don't do anything. Don't do anything and you will become anything (infinite potential) and from anything you will become everything (manifestation of mind.) It is through mimicry that we grow into society and onto the earth and it is through mimicry that we will grow out of society and into heaven. If the goal is to become a painter then, mimic painters. If the goal is to become a chef, mimic chefs. If the goal is emptiness, then mimic emptiness. Nor can an awakened god walk the path for you. What really is initiation, but an opportunity? Nothing is forced upon us. Everything is choice. This is the law of the universe. Even if the highest God commands, you may still exercise free-will, and that right is as much ours as it is mandatory that we bear their concequences. Are the resulting manifestations of initiation only attainable through initiation or can a practitioner reach this state himself? One can be initiated and die 10 years later with no progress made. Half of the effort comes from your Fu Fa Shen and the other from you. Your physical body is a laboratory, but we are no qualified al-chemists. We have all the tools, but do not know how to put them together. Fu Fa Shen is like a skilled al-chemist. Our own personal Walter White : ) During the initiation he/she/it is assigned to us through a request made to Tai Shang Lao Jun. When you start practice and invite the presense of your teacher, it will guide you through the process of transformation. Oooh.. look at those dusty beakers : ) Lets clean them up first shall we, Padawan? Now lets gather the necessary ingredients we need. Whats that there? 2 ounces of mecury and 1 pound of lead? Lovely : ) Now lets mix. Put a little here, says Fu Fa Shen! Noooo! Not so much. Now stir it. Not so FAST! Slower... Goood. Now stop. Wait a little. We need more oxygen. Ok, increase the fire. Hold It. Now Push! Push HARDER! HARDEEEEEEEERR! FART!!!! Woooo! Good! We cleared that blockage, or was that just the Indian food? Without Fu Fa Shen. Navigating the complicated maze of our body's energy matrix would be a very difficult thing. Not impossible. DEFINITELY doable, but requiring a lot of attention and care. A lot of learning and preparation. The advantage to having Fu Fa Shen's assistance is that we can refine and combine our internal energies in a very effective manner. For all intensive purposes, we are on autopilot on a highway of spiritual evolution. But its much more than that. You can ask questions, directions, advice, seek help. He/she/it is not just a teacher, but a friend and a guardian and it si there to help you re-member who you are. To re-collect yourself back into the original one. Without the availability of your body as the lab, Fu Fa Shen, can't do anything. That availability is provided to FFS when you invite he/she/it to practice. Without your intention and heart to work and cultivate, Fu Fa Shen won't bother with you. And although you are being instructed in what to do and when to do it and how much of it to do. These are only instructions, only guidance. It is you that must do the lifting and mixing and preparations and cooking. That is why it is called the divine GUIDANCE art. So don't think that you get it DONE. It is you that does the doing. When you go to a boxing class, the instructor will show you how to punch, but he can't do the punching for you. You have to hit the bag yourself. You have to sweat on your own. Ache on your own. Grow on your own. Still it is better than punching the heavy-bag with your fingers wrapped around your thumb or with a bent wrist and then breaking your hand. That is what FFS is there to do. Eliminate all false methods and guide us directly through the path of least resistance, with the aim of reaching the goal in the least amount of time. The goal? But of course, to be reborn in the Kingdom of heaven : ) But not in a body of flesh, but a body of spirit. We must give birth to the immortal spirit, a cohesion of our Yin and Yang capacities. We needn't learn to die in as much as we needn't learn to be born. The acquired mind is unnecessary for either of these transitions of existence to take place. When death and birth are perceived from the perspective of the temporary physical body and the temporary acquired mind, the thought is frightening, because it results to the complete annihilation of identity, but when the practitioner has become aware of the higher self and made contact with the infinite nature of their original self, their mind is reborn into a reality founded on the idea that we are a form of eternal consciousness within a temporary body. We are simply passing through. Birth is a process of this passage just as death is a continuation of it. There is no cessation in the motion. It is not then to die with grace that we should perfect, or to prolong the lifespan of our physical vehicles, but rather to savour the experience of existence. To perfect the expression of our divine nature through creation. To create with our minds, to create with our energy and to create with our body. We are here to learn about our potential to create, to develop it and to be awakened from our dormant state into one where we can harness our full potential as Gods. In our natural state as children, we occupy our every minute with refining control of our capacity to express our minds through our physical bodies (Jing expressing Shen via Qi). This should never stop untill we die. In fact we should work to make the process of expression even more refined, even more pronounced, untill all three become one and we are no longer separated. Until mind, energy and body function as one manifestation of impulsive energy expressing itself unambiguously, with complete totality.

The body has a template structured to facillitate the development of extraordinary functions. These functions require energy to be developed. Some of these functions are physical, others are non-physical and the highest forms manifest at the level of the mind. There are different types of energies required to develop these varying functions and there are corresponding reservoirs and containers of these energies which are used within the body as laboratories for mixing and transforming these substances. Further yet, beyond these, there are even more miraculous functions which can be cultivated. At the higher levels there are only 3 factors: 1. The flexibility and emptiness of the mind. It's ability to be open. 2. The availability of potential for the mind to manifest into being or non-being. 3. An activated connection between 1 and 2 to give birth to 4: nothing or everything.

General Sensation: To me it feels like cold grains of sand flowing through my meridians. Jing: Have you ever heard a harley davidson engine? If you placed a bowl of water on top of it while its running, the vibrating water would be my jing. Every once in a while i feel a charge up and then an explosion, sort of like a sneeze only it's not air but energy and i feel it explode through my body. If you've seen those Fa Jing movements in Tai Qi you'll know what i mean. I'm not sure if that is good or bad, but it happens lol When i am trying to get to sleep sometimes in my LDT i feel like someone starts that motor engine, i feel these very heavy low frequency vibrations, it is like they are trapped in a sphere, then the sphere starts compressing and the vibrations become denser and denser and my Dan Tien shakes more and more until the sphere compresses to a point and then implodes through my whole lower region. The implosion can sometimes make me jump right out of bed into the air. Yin Qi: This feels very magnetic to me.. i'm not sure how else to say it. The closest i can relate this energy to is my experience with playing with magnets. I feel like something is sucking. It's a sort of no zone. It's neither up or down, back or forwards; it feels like the perfect center, yet at the same time it feels very influential and without moving from it's center is able to influence. Yang Qi: This feels hot to me, can't say much else about that. Shen: No experience here.

How: 1. Place your attention on the Xia Dantien and relax the body and mind. 2. Return your attention back to the Xia Dantien, when you become aware that it is not there. 3. Repeat Do not use intention, use attention. This is the root. There are many branches, but this is the root.

The Jing Zuo in Tao Yin Shu is considered a Tai Yin practice and corresponds to the Kun (earth) trigram, which is composed of 3 Yin lines. In this state the body is Yin, the energy is Yin and the mind is Yin. In other words, the body is stilled, the energy is not directed consciously and the mind does not visualize. When the body is still, the Jing is cultivated. When the breath is still, the Qi is cultivated. When the mind is still, the Shen is cultivted. The aim of this type of meditation is to allow the lower mind to reduce it's activity in order to allow the higher mind to operate. By continuously maintaining a state of Yin, based on the Taiji Tu, the body will gradually give birth to true Yang. You can observe this below: When Yin peaks it gives birth to Yang. I recall Wang Li Ping, during this foundational phase in cultivation, was left to meditate in a wet hole in the ground. I imagine this was implemented by his teachers with the purpose of saturating the body with more Yin from the environment in order to speed up the process and bring about the birth of Zhen Yang Qi in the Xia Dantien. I have also heard of schools who build the foundation by meditating in water, which just covers the navel. Our awareness, as a product of the physical brain, is present in Taiji, on earth. In the physical dimension, while our dormant immortal soul exists simultanaeously in both the physical and non-physical dimensions. Our aim is to expand and fuse the awareness of the physical mind to that of the dormant immortal soul, in order to give it volition and awareness, so that we can then manfiest ourselves as infinite potential, as God. The aim of spiritual cultivation is to re-MEMBER and to re-MIND ourselves. So there exists a basic notion that we are disconnected or not-whole and spiritual cultivation is a process where by our separation is extinguished and we are united into one functioning self-aware divine whole. If you imagine the dormant immortal soul (the part of us that reincarnates, the only us) to be like a brainless zombie that just follows the current of the horde and flows in and out of reincarnation, without any volition of it's own, then the idea of it all is to take the brand new mind that forms in the physical brain of the physical body after birth and transplant it into the zombie. This way we create a fusion of physical mind/awarness and body, which produces the now awakened immortal soul, which with it's new found awarenses and volition, can now express it'self as creator, as God, as unlimited divine potential, such as we are. If we fail to bring about this fusion in this lifetime, then in the next, if we are lucky enough to have developed a mind that is inclined to spiritual cultivation, we may have another chance to fuse the new physical mind of that new body to the soul in order to awaken, re-mind and achieve conscious immortality. To do so we must drift away from Taiji and enter Wuji. Thus emptiness is the goal. The rule is very simple. In order to become something, while you are not yet it, you must practice being it, untill finally, you become it. Practice makes perfect : ) Thus emptiness of body, energy and mind is the quickest and most direct path to entering the Wuji. Visualizations are effective and have their purposes, but if you want to awaken to yourself most efficiently, you must turn inward, silence the physical mind and allow the information complex of the dormant immortal soul to come to the foreground and begin to create a fusion with the awareness. "Silence the mind and the soul will speak." The dormant immmortal soul is a spark of the Tao, it is the Tao. It is God and infinite potential, but unrealized. We have the power to create worlds through our thoughts and manifest reality, but not in the dormant state. So the formula is simple Physical Mind + Dormant Immortal Soul = Awakened Immortal. If you die and don't fuse them, the Physical Mind dies with the body and in your next life you will have to create a new physical mind and have a new opportunity at fusion. Mind you, you do not need to achieve complete fusion of the Physical Mind and the Dormant Immortal Soul to leave the body. It is enough to fuse a sufficient amount of the Physical Mind to the Dormant Immortal Soul in order to endow the soul with volition. Once it inherits the quality of volition, then the soul-physical mind complex can simply WILL to abandon the physical body and continue developing in the non-physical dimension. All the dormant soul needs to awaken is a strong enough connection to the physical mind's awareness to allow it to exercise volition and then you can leave the shell and experience yourself in your natural state in Wuji. Practising Jing Zuo helps us make this fusion possible.

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He whom claims there is but one way to achieve a goal, does not understand nature or Tao. If anyone implies that Jing Zuo cannot be used to cultivate the spirit. I have the following to say: Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those doing it.

It seems to me opendao, that rather than condemning meditation, similarly to many other schools which practice authentic meditation, the author is condemning a specific type of meditation; one in which the disciple sits idly without the proper internal focus required to initiate the conversion of Jing to Qi in the Xia Dantien. If the Shen from the Heart Fire is not directed downwards through Yi in order to freeze the spirit within the Xia Dantien and arouse the Kidney and Urinary Bladder Fire by merging them, then the body cannot create enough heat, which will not bring about the Zhen Huo required to transform the JING essences into QI. Without this there can be no alchemy in the Xia Dantien. The Shen and the heat from the Heart Fire have to be directed through Yi and/or through focusing the eyes on the Xia Dantien as the Shen manifests through the eyes, to which it is connected, but is rooted in the heart and can thus direct the internal heat of the Heart Fire where it is needed in the body. People who sit "dully" or "idly" do not know these things and may sit aimlessly. I know such people who even after decades have no internal skill or achievement whatsoever. Yet if you know what you are doing, you can fill the Xia Dantien with Qi until it overflows and triggers the Dai Mai and the movement of Qi manifests within the Xia Dantien signaling it's maturity to enter the coccyx and break the three passes to the Shang Dantien, and manifest the white light of Qi in the center of the brain to confirm this, all in under 3 months or 2 months if you practice diligently for hours every day together with celibacy. But all that is achieved through meditation. You can do it lying, sitting or walking. However, if the breath is not regulated, the heart will be stirred and an uneasy heart cannot effectively direct the Shen through Yi into the Xia Dantien. In these beginning phases of alchemy as well as others the breath will be used to sedate the heart, pacify the lungs and thus restrain the po through controlling the lungs in which they reside, in so doing the postnatal emotions can be controlled leading to the Qing state of mind required to establish stronger connections to the prenatal energies needed in the later alchemical stages when establishing conscious connections to Wuji. I say conscious, because the Eternal Soul is always connected to the Wuji, even while in the body of a disciple who is energetically or alchemically dormant. The breath can be used to lead the Qi together with the mind for greater efficacy while the mind and Qi are still separated. When the Qi and Mind unite, that's a different matter. Then postnatal breath is not required. But before that. The breath must be regulated through the different fire times, which require careful applications of forceful fire, no fire and gentle fire, all in respect to the phase of alchemy the disciple is in. If you neglect controlling the breath in Neidan, when it needs to be controlled you will sabotage your results. You say that the breath is not used in Neidan, but I think that this is false. Whether you pick up a tea-cup and fill it with tea or leave it empty, you are still using the tea-cup. You cannot practice Neidan solely by holding the breath in as much as you can by solely inhaling or solely exhaling. Whether the mechanism of the breath is engaged or not or how it is engaged, in what place and which with force, will define whether you can support the phases of alchemy within the body. Every process of the body and mind takes part in Neidan, whether actively or inactively and when they do not it is because they have either dissolved, united or transformed into something else, with a different function. IME, meditation is definitely part of Neidan. Perhaps not all meditations qualify as such, but the right type are definitely part of Neidan. If you claim to practise without meditating or using the breath. I am more than open to what you have to say, providing that you actually explain it from your own experience and internal processes rather than solely from quotes. I am always open to new views : ) As Laozi said to Confucius: "The men of whom you speak are long since dead and their bones are turned to ashes in their graves." Let us hear it from those which are still breathing and can speak of their own bodies and not the bodies of others.

Also it's a long way into Neidan the point at which the postnatal breath must be stopped, during the second manifestation of the golden light of the unified 5 organ energies. This is after the Micro-cosmic is developed, after the Macro-cosmic is developed, after the white light of Qi manifests, after the cauldron moves to the Shang Dantien, after the 5 organ energies merge..... so many things happen before that. Until then the postnatal breath and Lower Dantian play an integral role in Neidan development, clearing meridians and assisting the Qi in adding pressure where it is needed to perform certain internal actions.

Sometimes in Neidan the postnatal breath is needed to support the movement of Yang Qi, which naturally wants to flow down and that of Yin Qi which naturally wants to flow up, especially if the quantity is too weak to make its way through an obstruction. Because sometimes the flow of Qi in a meridian classified as Yang or Yin is reversed for certain purposes. Eventually when the breath, mind and Qi fuse, then postnatal breath is no longer needed, but until that happens IMO, Qigong plays an integral part in Neidan. And Neidan doesn't have to be done only sitting. You can be standing, walking, whatever. It depends on how far you are in the process. Every phase has different requirements. There are a lot of processes in Neidan which demand working with the breath to clear obstructions and catalyse various internal transformations in order to facilitate further development of the 3 bodies. In fact everywhere along the process regardless of what you are doing even if sometimes on a minor scale, the Shen, Qi and Jing are always interacting, so is the Yuan Qi and Yuan Jing and Yuan Shen and the Gu Qi and Di Qi and Wei Qi and Zheng Qi and Tian Qi and Zhou Qi and Qing Qi and Zhong Qi and what have you. The more we advance the less separation there is and the more all this melts together into one, until it does become one. Just one. Only one remains. Like you said ChiDragon if the breath is not regulated, the heart will not be regulated, if the heart is not regulated the Shen is not regulated, If Shen is not regulated the Jing is not regulated, if the Jing is not regulated the kidneys are not regulated and if the kidneys are not regulated, the liver is not regulated if the liver is not regulated the Hun are not regulated, if the Hun are not regulated the Po run a mock, if the Po run a mock the Lungs cannot be regulated and neither can the heart. Regulating the breath in itself is a crucial part of Neidan, because of the effect it has on the energy of the 5 Yin organs, without the transformation of which, IMO, no real alchemy can reach maximum development. But here is where I differentiate from many Taoists, because despite what I know or have learned and have experienced, I will still say anything is possible and I will always remain open to other possibilities, until I can prove them wrong of my own doing.

Opendao, for the sake of your name Would you tell me if any of the phases of practising Neidan include Qigong and how do you define Qigong based on your education? Thanks

Qigong isn't just about the breath though, the breath and the energy work together with the mind, and they are all qualified as Qi, albeit different types. Qigong can include a lot of practices and is also part of Neidan, but it is not Neidan. Neidan is Neidan and Qigong is Qigong, but both include each other in different stages. I don't get what all the arguing is bout on the other thread. I agree the idea of Neidan comes from Waidan, that's why they used so many metaphors as mercury, lead and gold, crucibles, cauldrons and bellows. Neidan is the process of transforming the inherent energetic potentials of the body through purification, combination and transmutation with the aim of bringing about the birth of the immortal. Does that include Qigong? - Yes. Can it be done without Qigong? - No. So wherein is the confusion? - O_O

I'm still waiting for someone to answer these 4 questions in one post: 1. Define Qigong 2. Define Neidan 3. Provide a basic theorertical & practical explanation of what the practice of Neidan involves. 4. Provide a basic theorertical & practical explanation of what the practice of Qigong involves. 5. Explain whether Qigong is included in Neidan. 6. Explain whether Neidan is included in QIgong. The person who answers these is the one who knows what they are talking about IMHO.

It is simple to resolve the conflicts in this thread. Just explain the following: 1. Define Qigong 2. Define Neidan 3. Provide basic instructions on how to practice Neidan. 4. Provide basic instructions on how to practice Qigong. The essence is in the doing, even when the doing requires not doing. So why not dispense with the terminological magnifications and get down to the nitty gritty of the doing and be done with it? Seems more reasonable to me to bite the apple than debate about whether certain biting techniques are classified as biting. Give instructions and the argument will dissolve itself.

You just dropped a bomb on the thread. hahah - Love you man I'm wondering If I should chime in on the discussion. I do have a lot to say. hmm.. *I'll make some more pop-corn for now Ok. Ok. Just a little bit. Then I slap myself on the wrist. Neidan is not Qigong and Qigong is not Neidan But does Qigong include Neidan? Does Neidan include Qigong? Let's see who the real master is now On your marks. Get set! Discuss! *slap

Can you please prove your statement by explaining it from a logical perspective?

I've read all those several times over and have never found them to be in conflict with what is considered to be "conventional" Hou Tian practice.

San Bao are interdependent. If you nourish the JING it will nourish the QI. If you nourish the QI it will nourish the SHEN - Hou Tian Xiu If you nourish the SHEN it will nourish the Qi. If you nourish the QI it will nourish the JING - Xian Tian Xiu The best way I can explain it is through an image so here, I made one for you. When the cultivation is Heaven to Earth - Heavenly Energy is fed into the system to trigger the transmutation. When the cultivation is Earth to Heaven - Earth Energy is fed into the system to trigger the transmutation.

Empty on the outside. Full on the inside.

This is true. I had a discussion about that with a fellow practitioner recently. There simply isn't a lot of information out there about genuine Xian Tian Tao Yin Xiu. It is a very tiny part in the history of the art, that under which practitioners of the system have been granted authority to discuss some of it's details openly. We were even making a joke about it a week ago, because a fellow Tao Yu recommended I write a book and I laughed and asked "why bother?" It would be 995 pages of Hou Tian and 5 pages Xian Tian. Hou Tian Xiu can by mapped out linearly in an instructive format, such that once one has familiarized themselves with the instructions, they may sit and begin to practice and say "ok, first I start with A then move to B then C then D etc," but with Xian Tian Tao Yin Xiu, every individual practitioners path is completely complimentary to their condition of body, energy and spirit-mind. One Tao Yu may skip 10 steps that another must do, and some may leap-frog ahead 10 years of others, while other's may be stuck in one place for just as long. It all depends entirely on the persons talents, the persons diligence and the current state of their 3 bodies at the time of initiation. Because of this, right after initiation practitioners will be guided into different forms of meditation dependent on their current level of spiritual progress; thus your Immortal may guide you into moving meditation (seated), moving meditation (standing), postural meditation such as Zhan Zhuang (standing or seated), seated emptiness meditation to penetrate the Wuji. It may when necessary control your breath and direct your Qi in the body to perform certain tasks at the required times bearing in mind the micro and macro-cosmic timings of the heavenly bodies and the internal organs, meridians and energy fields etc. It is all very, very personal. We do have a very detailed Xiu Tao flowchart which outlines and describes all the hallmarks of our schools cultivation path from Beginner to Immortal, but this is very superficial in comparison to every practitioners personal experience. It's not that complicated. The process of transmutation is reversed. During Hou Tian Xiu, we use low vibrational resources derived from Earth, Air, Food, Drink and Hormones to build Jing. Jing is the foundation in Hou Tian Xiu. When plenty, the Jing is then refined to Qi, the Qi later to Shen and the Shen to Wuji. In Xian Tian Xiu, we use high vibrational resources derived from Heaven through our school and by absorbing the essence of the Sun, Moon and the heavenly bodies that vibrate at the Shen and Wuji level. Shen is the foundation in Hou Tian Xiu. When plenty, the Shen is then refined to Qi and the Qi to Jing. On a side note, another one of our recent Tao Yu and a close friend of mine whom I personally invited to the initiation has also recently separated his Shen from his body and was able to travel to familiar places around London. Although his spirit is still in Taiji and not in Wuji. To enter Wuji requires that the spirit undergo a lot of transformation and this is inevitably achieved through Jing Zuo; sitting and forgetting / emptiness meditation. The reason why our Tao Yu are able to achieve Yin Shen skill so quickly is because our Bai Hui is activated during initiation. Yin Shen is not something extraordinary. It is a minor spiritual skill and even non spiritualists can achieve it by modifying their consciousness through drug use or OBE practices. Building the Yang Shen / The Indestructible Immortal Spirit is a process which takes much longer, but we don't start from Jing to Qi to Shen. In our school the priority is the Spirit's transformation, so immediately after/during initiation we begin to refine Yang Shen and every practice thereafter, when we practice at home or anywhere else will advance the refinement of Yang Shen. In Hou Tian Xiu, after the Yang Shen is born, because it is still a baby, It is weak and vulnerable. If the practitioner were to die while the Yang Shen was in such a state I fear the possibility that It may be attacked by other spirits or demon and could be destroyed, dissolving all progress up until now. In our school, because every Tao Yu is enveloped in the divine golden aura received from Tai Shang Lao Jun, even if we died and our Yang Shen was still in an infant stage of development, we could continue to develop in the divine realm under the guidance of our Immortal teachers, without the fear of spiritual attacks. The golden aura protects us and so does our Fu Fa Shen. We may call on it for spiritual refinement or to aid us and help us with our daily lives. This is the very reason why less than a month for one case and 2 months later for another Tao Yu, they were able to freely and fearlessly explore the environment and even far away areas with their Yin Shen, knowing they are under protection from demonic attacks and possessions. I would otherwise be afraid to do so. I say this, because of the experiences I've had with demons attacking me during sleep paralysis. I believe there are two types of dream states: During the first the Hun retreat to the Liver and the Po to the Lungs and the imaginings of the dream state take place in the mental consciousness of the brain. The dream takes place in the body and the soul(s) remain within. The shell is full. During the second, either then Hun and Po both leave the body or the Hun OR the Po leave the body and travel away to distant realms to experience genuine interactions with other worlds and beings, not of the mind. The soul(s) leave the body. The shell is empty. If you speak to a lot of practitioners they will tell you that when they are exploring with their Yin Shen their body is in a state of paralysis. They can see themselves sitting and meditating or laying down or however they were positioned prior to separating their Yin Shen from the body. It is exactly at this very point that I've found people are likely to experience demon's of the night and It is of my strong belief that these demons take advantage of the empty shell to attempt possession. I think this is why whenever you her testimonies of sleep paralysis, they are often accompanied by the demon weighing down on your back or chest. It has only happened to me during sleep paralysis when the Yin Shen is out of the body. This explains why I always observed the events from a birds-eye view and why I could see both my body and that of the demon fully. My mother whom is also an initiated Tao Yu works in a care-home, where she just started work. The other day she met a patient whom had a very depressed and sad demeanour. She asked him "what's the matter?." The patient kept shying away and trying to avoid the topic, but my mum could sense something was the matter. She poked a little more and the patient finally admitted that they were scared they'd think they were crazy or something if he shared his concerns. She managed to get close enough and the patient finally disclosed that every night a demon would come to their bed and weigh down on them. It felt like it was both pulling and sucking them and weighting down with a very strong gravity at the same time. They could never sleep, because of the fear of the experience every night and had sleep deprivation. My mother used a mantra from our school to disperse any Yin influences in the vicinity and said she would come back to check on them tomorrow. Well she did and they patient said It was the first time since moving to the care home that they had a normal night's sleep. Demon free. Some people with developed talents, whether in this life time or a prior can easily slip out of the body during sleep to explore other places and are very often due to this victims of demonic attempts of possession. They don't seem to attack when the spirit of these spirit travellers is still in the body and I would imagine it is because the said person has a very strong spirit. You would need one to be able to slip out of the body of your own volition. I think these demon's wait exactly for that and then they try to weaken the physical body somehow or to sever the connection between the body and the adventuring spirit in order to occupy the shell. Anyhoo. Just rambling : ) If you refine your Yang Shen enough during this life time, when you die you can go to the divine realm and be a Fu Fa Shen to your grand children or great grand children or perform other duties in heaven. You would be a Shen Xian too then. An immortal spirit or a god. There are different levels of divine status and the term god does not refer to only one of these levels. There are lower gods, middle gods, higher gods and all sorts in between those. But for all intensive purposes one who practices as a human and created the Yang Shen body by merging the Hun and Po is considered a Taoist God. That could be you if you practice diligently or it could be someone else. Bear in mind however that there are those humans that refine from an earthly state into a heavenly state to become a Shen Xian, but there are also Tian Xian or heavenly immortals who have always existed as immortals or gods and did not start from a physical form, but one can get to this state of their own effort as well. Gui Xian > Ren Xian > Di Xian > Shen Xian > Tian Xian I'll speak for myself and for the Tao Yu whom are close to me and say that it's all of the above. like I said whether you are moved or not depends on where you are in your practice. To develop the consciousness and awareness required to enter the Wuji we need to practice a lot of sitting meditation. Since the initiation, I feel like I am hooked up to a constant and very strong source of energy. When we invite an immortal to practice with us during the day or night and they then begin to move your body, energy and mind the interaction and force of this energy influence increases. For example, during the day I will feel Qi moving around in different place. Sometimes it feels like a hand reaches into some part of my body and tweaks something. Imagine a hand, but no bones or muscles or tendons or anything physical, just energy. Then it reaches into your body and interacts with an organ or the Qi flow in a meridian. Sometimes it feels like that for me, and that's before I've actually invited an immortal to guide me. Yesterday after I finished practice which consisted of my regular Yi Jin Jing and 5 organ forms, I asked my Fu Fa Shen if it would please continue to refine me while I sleep in whatever way possible... Well.. Let's put it this way. I didn't sleep all night hahaha. I was being thrown around like a rag doll in the bed, in all sorts of positions and mudras. I quite literally felt like I was a fish in a frying pan and it was just flipping me around. The immortal is so strong that it can just flip me from a lying tummy position to on your back in one go. I feel like I don't even roll. It just picks me up and spins me. And when it moves my hand it does it at such a speed like I know I could never achieve with my own musculoskeletal system. I feel like the flash. In fact. My hand moves and reaches it's destination before my mind realizes it has moved. At first It was a very strange feeling, but then I realized it makes perfect sense that my brain would lag with the information since it wasn't me initiating the movement. It had to catch up a little. Yes. I know It all sounds a little strange, but the reality of authentic spiritual cultivation is such. It's filled with the supernatural and unexplained. We like to keep this stuff between Tao Yu, because when we say it to someone else, they label us crazy and put us in the loony bin. But you know how the saying goes: I awoke only to find out that everyone else was still asleep. The immortal is... super-conscious, all pervasive. To it the past, present and future are one. But what you must understand is that our OWN physical bodies do not vibrate at that level of existence. Our organs and meridians and Qi flow wax and wane in accordance with the moon and sun and forces of the earth and other influences. We tire, we exhaust ourselves and we need rest. Everyone's body can take a different amount of stress. I say stress, because during Tao Yin many of the exercises can be very exhausting. For example, my mothers Fu Fa Shen always forces her into really tough Yoga Poses, that I wouldn't want to try. When it let's her go, she is often sweating and just wants to go to sleep directly, because she is so tired. It all depends on your endurance, but like I said our bodies work on timings. Often FFS will need to wait and hand pick a certain timing in order to create a specific effect in the body. This means that It may ask you to perform a certain exercise at a specific time to help advance a healing or refinement process in your body. This is the advantage of authentic Xian Tian Tao Yin Xiu. You have an immortal there to tweak you EXACTLY when you need to be tweaked. It's the difference in cultivation between rubbing two wet stick together to make fire and using a magnifying glass with the sun. It's strange to say if it comes for you. Because it's literally beyond speed and time and distance. The moment you think of it, It's already there. Immortals have a skill which allows them to replicate themselves over and over again. This means that It can be in many places and guiding many students and performing many tasks at once. It is your personal teacher and friend. In my experience FFS will leave you when it determines that your body is too tired to sustain the task at hand. Or it will leave you when it has reached it's desired effect for that time or place. Often a lot of the "issues" which it addresses and heals during practice are complex and cannot be fixed in one go. So during one session it may fix 10%, then it may need to come back again when the timing of the organ or meridian or sun and moon is right to push it from 10% to 20%. Then maybe it will wait for 4 months without doing anything, because it needs to wait for the right alignment of criteria again, then it will advance the refinement from 20% to 50% etc. It will intelligently do what needs to be done with absolute wisdom in action in order to bring about the state and result necessary to elevate you to the next step in cultivating the Tao. Indeed it is all very interesting. I believe one would have great success when being well educated in both Hou Tian and Xian Tian cultivation methods. This will allow the practitioner to safely refine the Jing (body) while refining the Shen (spirit-mind) and thus meet in the middle Qi (energy) Thank you kindly. May you be blessed in your cultivation : )

Thanks Zerostao, Sadly words are also often not very effective, but that yet again is where our school stands out, since we provide evidence of the divine realm through personal experience from day one. The words are just a bonus with us Beyond that point there isn't much else stopping the disciple but their self-doubt and ego.