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Just wanted to share this beauty with everyone. I recommend you watch it in Youtube @ 1080p to do it justice.

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Exactly Craig! You said it perfectly. I felt like i had a connection-gasm when reading that. It is very pleasing to know that others have experienced this too. These systems are all just empty holograms projected from our own realities over the essence of the "root" as Craig put it. The differences between them are ENDLESS, but so are the SIMILARITIES, but that is because they are one and the same, so going between them would be an infinite loop and you would sooner go crazy than make any logical sense of it. The point however is not to document them endlessly, but to navigate through them, around them, between them, a little from here and a little from there, taking what you need in whatever quantities so that you can do what is truly important and the absolute goal, connecting to the root. The systems. These constructs, they are just designs to help us re-connect, but the moment you connect, even for but a second, the designs and the roads you took to get to the root they disintegrate. They disappear so that you can have no doubt that the source is the only thing that matters, not the method or the system, but the goal. I heard something like this once: Logic like Alcohol starts to lose it's beneficial effects when used in large quantities.

That is your opinion : ) See. This i feel is where your fault is. You seem to accept that a Yogic experience or a significant chakra or kundalini related alchemical experience is only credible and/or experience-able by someone of a direct Yogic practice. Who here has the authority to define what a Yogic or a Taoist energetic experience should be and under which umbrella it should be categorized? We cannot decide what is what just as much as we cannot classify an experience in order to deem it worthy of acceptance as a criteria for debate and separation between the two systems. What if i have a Yogic experience, but practice neither Yogic or Taoist arts, or anything for that matter? Who then is going to tell me i am right or wrong, or that what i have experienced is not authentic or does not pertain to one system or the other. This void here, is the point i am driving. The differences between the systems are obvious at first glance. The interrelation among them? Other than the fact that they are both geared towards reaching enlightenment and liberation? Why compare? I mean... that is why they are two. So that you can adopt whichever concept integrates most efficiently with your capacity to assimilate higher information. People who are born into a system of thought become one with the system. It is simply natural. For others less fortunate, who search for a system to practice in their developed age, have a much harder time because they have to find something that can seamlessly overlap their already molded system of reception. The only way to understand something which is complicated is by diluting it into simpler more digestible bite size pieces for easier digestion. There is nothing wrong with making things understandable. In fact i thought that was the point O_o I think you are creating a great amount of constriction in your ability to understand freely by adding so much significance to "roles", "specialities" and separation in classes. What i explained before WAS from my personal experience. Now just because i have read a Taoist book or two, doesn't mean that i automatically had a Taoist experience. What i have found is that both systems are actually one system and the energies can be interchanged between the paths and routes specified in the individual systems regardless of obvious contradictions which might arise directly from a person looking at things from a strictly structural state of sentience. Complicated spiritual mesh-work is difficult to put into words and sentences, but from what i can tell you based on my personal spiritual experience, and i'm saying this as a person who is informed in both systems of cultivation, that both systems and their respective pathways and centers exist entirely as a manifestation of our own personal conceptual idiosyncratic design. You can reach both goals laid out within both systems by doing what neither system depicts as the rudimentary steps to achieving them. Both systems are dissolve-able and interchange-able. Such a baffling variety of methods exist in number that they can only be equaled to every unique individual and that is precisely the reason there are so many, to cater to everyone's capacity for understanding. The fastest and easiest way really IS, no way at all. And no way is the goal. These systems are designed to awaken dormant minds. They are not made for enlightened beings. This is why they are so full of techniques and rules, because they assume the practitioner has forgotten his innate ability to connect directly to the source. They are designed to bring you back to no way, through a way (a system). During meditation i moved to a place above both of these systems and saw that they are one and the same. The differences we perceive are empty, but in reality. Our reality that is. They seem very palpable. That is because we allow them to be. I know this to be false though. Can i give you data, show you videos or print you diagrams? No, unfortunately i cannot. It is a healthy practice to play with these ideas in your hands, but the moment you get serious about it, you lose the point entirely, because to do that means you're differentiating. And in reality everything is everything. So differentiating and comparing in the long run ironically is like comparing Yoga to Yoga, or Taoism to Taoism. They are one and the same and you'd be comparing them to themselves. I just wanted to say that, but i feel like i will have to step back from this debate, since i have experienced above this reasoning, but cannot show proof for which i am very sad, as i would very much like to share it with you. _/\_

The body is one complex unit. There is no way in hell that MCO and Kundalini are unrelated. I have gone to some far away places during deep meditation and i can tell you right now that Chakras and Dan Tiens can be moved and interchanged and are always co-developed. Because one culture chooses to call it one thing and another something else doesn't change the fact that all these processes are happening in the same system, within the same confined space and all centers and individual nodes are interconnected regardless of their names. You can build energy in the Lower Dan Tien and move it up or down to activate the chakras individually or pass it around the MCO. Whichever method you choose to concentrate on during your practice, regardless of whether you are focusing on chakras or dan tiens, BOTH chakras and dant tiens will be affected and developed simultaneously. Creating a coarse vocabulary division between common junctions and their paths in order to respect cultural heritages is total absurdity and IMO very short sighted thinking. We have the ability to shift our awareness in order to create a palpable idea of concepts which in themselves are formless, but this is only because we are limited to experiencing matter in a more unrefined state under most circumstances. This however should not confuse us into believing that, what we understand is absolute. These constructs we have of systems are simply handed down conveniences and more often than not will constrict you before they lead you to a true liberation and ultimately a path suiting to your tempo and nature of spiritual development. I respect the opinions of both sides of the conversation, not because they make sense, but because this is the natural order of things, that there is the left and the right, the up and the down. I do not agree with either of you and neither of you should agree with each other. But in my humble experience there is one ultimate goal. The "way" to reach it is entirely dependent on the reality you create, the beliefs you hold, the conviction of your thoughts. Someone with "heart", without knowing what they are doing, which meridian they are working with or what a chakra is at all is very capable of achieving results much greater than the common "educated" alchemical adept, and faster to boot. They can do this because they skip the material construction and connect directly to the source. These systems pertaining to Dan Tiens and Chakras within the reality we exist in are nothing more than calcified propagations of our own though creations brought to physical manifestation by repetitive contemplation and dedicated cultivation of empty ideas. They are like a holographic network emanating from one source which has no form at all, they appear and feel to be what we create to match out convenience. We need them to brace our Shen to a pattern our lower consciousness can understand on a material level in order to coax our dormant spiritual potential into awakening. This in my opinion and personal experience is the nature of the Yogic and Taoist systems comparatively. They are one, but are two. They are two, but are in fact one. Choosing to believe in one over the other is just as valid the other way round when you understand they are empty formulations layered over absolute infinity. Just my two cents anyway.

I have always found Pranayama to be extremely effective and helps activate my centers frighteningly fast. At the same time i am a dedicated proponent of the Taoist school of Alchemy. How does one mix the two? I do physical yoga and wai dan regularly and those seem to compliment each other, but when it comes to the internal alchemical processes described in both paths of attainment it seems that there is are significant differences. Are there any major Taoist alchemical initiatory methods that adopt moving energy directly up the chong mai at the beginning? And what of this scenario; You have a certain current of Qi built up in the false Dan Tien, you move it to the perineum and activate the Muladhara, it's throbbing, bobbing and all of the above. Is it safe then instead to take all that Qi after activating the Muladhara and move up to the solar plexus, skipping Qi Hai here assuming that it's already activated, and then proceed up the Sushumna? Or how about turning the waterwheel running up the Du, down the Mai, completing the whole MCO and then on day two practicing Kundalini Yoga from Chakra 1 to 7. Has anyone had any negative experience mixing the two? I always get faster results with Pranayama, but i basically have the whole Taoist Alchemical process as per Lu K'Uan Yu and Richard Wilhem memorized. It's straight forward and explained step by step. I am lacking that raw approach from the Buddhist texts, which are often too flamboyant in their descriptions for a comfortable mental digestion. My highest aim is spiritual realization, but i appreciate the Taoist school more for also concentrating on external exercises and helping build, train and use Qi for physical and Martial applications as opposed to solely health benefits with physical Yoga. Are there any records of Buddhist Indian adepts with martial abilities like those? I am curious. Is that what they term "siddhis"? In Yoga the most i am capable of deciphering of the alchemical process is that Kundalini (Yin) is raised up the chakras to meet and unite with Siva (Yang) and then you go into samadhi, but that is as much as i can decode. Taoists on the other hand move the Yin in partial quantities up the Du Mai through the brain then down the front and in time they manifest the true light, then bring down the light from the brain to copulate with the Lower Tan Tien and give birth to the spiritual embrio, then bring that back up again to the brain etc. Comparatively, it seems both systems are moving Yin from the lows to the highs and uniting it with Yang. If i am not mistaken in Taoist Alchemy after the Real Tan Tien is strong, it is moved up the Chong Mai centrally to the brain, this is a procedure independent of the MCO. It seems as if the MCO practice helps you prepare and energize the meridians and increase their capacity for handling Qi, similarly in the way Physical yoga helps energize the nervous system and open the nadis to facilitate the environment for Kundalini rising. Can i deduce because of this then, that Moving energy from the RTT up the Chong Mai is synonymous with Kundalini practice, and if so how do you classify MCO circulations and what is the relationship between semen retention and Kundalini practice? How does one go about "taking advantage" of both of these schools at the same time without casing any harmful effects? I'd also like to hear from people on their comparisons between MCO, Raising Chi up Chong Mai and Kundalini, why Taoists work with the Tan Tien first instead of the Perineum (Now that i wrote that i just realized that Regular and Reverse breathing includes breathing with the Perineum, so in essence Taoists work with Chakra 1 and 2 together at the start). Thanx.

If a man shoots someone in the head at point blank range and walks away and a woman sees him a hundred meters away. To her he is evil. But to the man that just avenged the rape and murder of his wife by a common criminal it is an honorable deed worthy of praise. If the woman never knows the truth, then the act always remains an evil one to her. Evil and Good are entirely subject to relativity and depend on the perspective of the viewer and their perception and reasoning of the situation. Some might postulate that. However if we assume that Karma, this almighty force, which is beyond relativity, beyond conceptions, yet is still capable of differentiating between Good and Evil deeds in order to distribute what is due in the great wheel of Samsara, then what do we believe? Should we believe that there IS an absolute definition of GOOD or EVIL and if so why is a factor so important to the determination of our conduct in life kept away from us. Would it make any difference if were all born instinctively aware of what the absolute notions of good and evil were? Would it make us more righteous? Would we never do evil? Or would lust, anger, jealousy, hate and lust still draw us to evil deeds regardless of our conviction. I mean, when you think about it. I guess we already had that scenario and failed. The bible had the 10 commandments, that didn't seem to go too well. If Karma knows what is good or evil then surely it is not a concept of our own minds, rather something from above, but how can we understand things from such a high perspective? What does one have to do in order to be able to identify original good and evil. If you sit down and try to think about it. You might say to yourself, ah that's easy. I already know what good and bad is. But do you really? Ask someone else about the same thing and their opinion might be entirely different. Yet to you it could be plain as day. Where is the original good and evil and how does one identify it in order to teach ones self and others the right way. Is it in the heart, the head, or are humans just destined to be blind people pointing in different directions assuming personal truths for everything. Living in their own delusional realities. It almost appears to be a chaos by intelligent design. But what is the point and would the world be a better place if we all knew what good and bad really was?

This is the conclusion i have come to as well Sloppy, through observation. If you pay attention to your life during the day. Everything that happens, everything that is said and how that relates to everything that you have said and done. You will see that it almost always matches correspondingly. I say almost, because the mismatches, so to say, are karmic manifestations of actions you have already forgotten you have made. But if you have a really good memory, or simply exercise to keep track of these things, you will notice. A week, a Month, a Year, a Decade in the future things will manifest proportionately in positivity or negativity in your life based on something you did. I think our minds are simply weak at this point in evolution to account for everything accurately, but i can imagine, and i have read this in the texts, that because trained meditators can see very far back they can LINK everything together. And it all makes sense, just like that. Our handicap in not being able to track every direct manifestation of karma i think is a memory issue. I have heard that at some point after you open i think the throat chakra or the 3rd eye that you can see back into all your lives and link everything together. Have you ever thought how funny it is that LIVE is EVIL backwards? : )

That's just the thing Sloppy. We have a model, but it's our own human model. It could as well be different in every country. In fact, laws are very different in every country. Some people spend a lifetime in jail for smoking weed. Here in Holland i do it in the park while having a beer and enjoying the scenery. These notions of good and evil that we have created, are not absolute. I too have lived the frog scenario i had never killed another animal. My friends killed and tortured the frogs, tearing their legs off. I simple could not. I wasn't disgusted or scared. Even at that age i could not understand what they derived out of ending another creatures life. I still do not today. That is just pure evil at a young age. When you grow up and you have a conscience and a better understanding of write and wrong and you still give into those evil impulses, that is EVIL on a whole different level. Either way. I strayed. My point is that. Karma in order to dish out what is due based on what you have done, must have a working algorithm. And that algorithm i think is the absolute good and bad of the universe. But how can we ever know it, and why are we kept so far away from it? Thrown into the chaos of the world, gifted with a conscience. It is at the best divine comedy. They are probably up there laughing at us. And yes. It is true there are people benefiting from evil now and those receiving evil in return for their kindness. Do the good suffer because they were evil before and simply have evil karma to burn? Do the evil now live lavishly because they did good deeds in their past life, but will suffer again in their next? I don't know honestly. lol But its intriguing to think about.

This is one of the points i was trying to make. If karma is distributed fairly and indiscriminately based on what we have done and gives us what we deserve in proportions equal in negativity or positivity to our actions. Then there aught to be an absolute definition of Good and Evil. YET, and here is the joke. We are born without any workable inherent concept of good or evil, we have to learn it and have it conditioned into us, but we are given a CONSCIENCE. It's almost like, someone telling u to find a speck of glitter in a swimming pool. It's just torture. Why give us no rules, but give us this construct that constantly forces us to pursue and establish them. And when we do, they are never absolute. It's like mockery lol. Imagine all the planets out there and all the other intelligent forms of life that exist. Have you ever wondered what their definitions of good and evil are? Would they coincide with ours?

If you poke yourself with a knife then bleeding is just a simple effect. It is not necessarily good or bad. If you jump of a building and die, it is also just a simple effect. When i implied something to "deserve" i meant as a consequence of the EFFECT not as a consequence of the CAUSE. So i am speaking of repercussion of the aftermath of your actual actions. eg: If i shoot you and you die. What does that death deserve me? - Negative Karma or Positive Karma for me to experience in the unknown future. Then from the perspective of the individual being shot. That is their Karma. Yet also, that could have been achieved by voluntarily deciding not to cook today, but to go out to the newly opening restaurant where you got caught up in an armed robbery leading to the said death. The distinct distinguishment i make between the two scenarios is that. In one case. The action and reaction are immediate. Where as Karma might be more likely a consequence of the effect of the immediate action. O_o I think i just went cross-eyed.

Hmm... A most intriguing sentiment. *ponders I can relate your perspective, but if we assume that what is written in the texts is true then Karma does, without naming or labeling, differentiate between a good and an evil deed. How else can it otherwise attribute fortune and misfortune accordingly? So many of the main religions including Taoism, Buddhism etc. all believe in demons, ghosts, hells and heavens on different levels of existence. One is full of pain and suffering and the other of delight and pleasantries. Even without naming separate actions as goods or evils, as creatures we can easily assume that an existence in hell is worse than one in heaven. Juxtaposing Pain and Suffering against Love and Bliss is quite sufficient as selective criteria even for a measly rat. My point is that. If there is up and down, Yin and Yang. Malicious demons and benevolent all loving buddhas. Then there must be a clearly distinguishable factor upon which to define the conduct required from one in order to be deemed deserving of either of these existences, be it in Hell or Heaven or otherwise. We as humans tend to see good and evil relatively. Our dads and moms propel their collective understandings of these notions unto us through discipline as we grow up, but the family next doors' could be absolutely different. If Karma is the indiscriminate force which distributes what is due, the EFFECTS of the CAUSE as you put it, without considering whether it is good or bad based on our personal understanding. Then it must have a system of it's own based on which to make these decisions, in order to make sure you get what you DESERVE. Karma may not name it. But if you believe that it does have criteria for defining good and bad. And if you assume that Karma is an uncorruptable entity, then there must BE an absolute EVIL and GOOD in existence. Something which regardless of what we people think or justify with our own reasoning, simply NEVER changes. An unshakable foundation of justice so to say. This would be the foundation of Karma, how else could it be everything it is said to be? And if this is so, why of all the things that the great sages have shared with us have they skipped the most basic rule book. Maybe it was just too long to write? : )

I know that a lot of the fajin movements within forms are interlayed within the form itself but sometimes when i am doing a non fajin form i feel a charge, almost like a build up of potential and sometimes whether i force it or not i am compelled to explode the energy out of my body and it makes me shake just like in a scripted fajin, is this natural fajin? It feels like a mini orgasm to me. It mostly happens when i am performing something slow. It's almost as if the soft Yin movements build up and consolidate until the Yin produces Yang and the Yang just literally explodes into being. This is what fajin feels to me like, very similar to sitting meditation where through doing nothing the Yin builds and produces true Yang after time and when the Yang reaches it's peak it turns to Yin. Amidoinitrite lol? Also i have noticed while doing Chen style Tai Ji that the points at which the choreographed fajin is executed is normally the point around which i feel the need to explode. Could it be that the movements prior to the fajin in Chen style are specifically tailored to building that charge up during the form and letting it go just at the right time? To me it feels like poetic perfection that someone could invent something so subtle and accurate in correspondence with the coarse body, it's beautiful. This is the main reason why i completely fell in love with the fajin movements of Chen style from day one, because it spoke to me immediately and without even knowing what it was at the time i was like, i get the urge to explode like that on my own all the time while doing other forms of taiji. Quite fascinating. And yes i noticed his deep breathing, it stood out very prominently to me as you don't see that a lot in other forms. He was really working it. I have most of Master Ren's instructional videos/DVDs. He is very inspiring to me. I've heard he practices for hours on end per day. I hope i can reach that level of endurance and find that much time during my day.

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Nanashi! Dragon Rising is beautiful! Thank you : )

That being said, then what is the point of posting about it at all if he already has no intention of explaining it, assuming he doesn't. Arrogance? Teasing? It's like walking on stage in a hall, seats full of students, to announce that you have a book that will teach them what they need to know in 1/10th of the time, then end the speech at that and walk out. lol.. Sorry, i don't care what it is, money, lineages, oaths... It's pointless to even start a conversation about technique without actually talking about the technique. I don't see why that is so difficult to see through. Hey guys, in fact there is a technique which will get it done in x minutes and its really easy. Ok bye, now. Is it really only me that finds that irritating and hilarious lol?

Either you're selling something or you're going to recommend someone who is selling something, otherwise it makes no sense that you would post all of that and then not include the most important thing, the technique itself. Perplexing.

Apparently it has a lot to do with visualization to help lead the Qi into the body from the outside or from the inside. So far i know 3 meditations to do this 1: Breathing into the body imagined as a stick man. 2. Breathing into every bone of the body. 3. Breathing into every pore of the body. What i want to know is, which type of breath is used to move Qi from within the body around or to other areas of the body and what breath is used to move Qi from the environment into the body. Is it belly in on the exhale or belly out, I know there is a difference, because one method to me is more efficient in sucking in Qi from the outside, while another is more effective at moving my internal energy from one part of the body to another. I would imagine that as the concentration becomes stronger the physical breath becomes of less importance. Still thought i think more light should be shed on this topic. No referrals to products or paid systems if possible. Just a discussion on technique, effects, results and achievements.

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Why the hell do people post stuff just to remove it? I mean how unsure of yourself do you have to be? Even if you removed it because you came back to it as a wiser man and saw your mistakes, why be ashamed of who or what you were/are. Weird.. and highly irritating.

He taught me that i had no idea how to relax physically, even though i thought i did.

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What a beautiful mind you have Stig. Thank you.

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