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Did i miss something? - Why are you placing an opposing negative emphasis on Tummo, Kunlun or the Reverse Method in comparison to the article? - Any authentic emptiness cultivation system will trigger Kundalini naturally along the process development.

I think this may be a common phenomenon amongst those of us who cultivate; having experienced the joy and liberation of peaceful abiding i find few things anymore that have the potential to ignite my curiosity or interest. If anything due to that i might seem as though i am depressed. My partner keeps telling me; "you are never enthusiastic about anything", how can i be when "anything" in this material driven world can't even fathom one spectrum of the peace and beauty of meditation and just being in the nothing, awakening to original nature. How can i explain to non-cultivators that the nothing we experience in meditation is in fact everything and more? Lest i want myself to be taken as having lost my mind i have learned to keep to myself. When i am asked, i say i don't know. I prefer to be quiet and stupid in this world. I did not understand what the texts said about this attitude, but the more i experience what cultivation has to offer, the clearer it becomes; communicating wisdom to the unwise is as hard as convincing a pig that diamonds are more precious that mud and shit. The wiser you become spiritually the dumber you appear to the general uninitiate. It takes a lot of grinding to smooth the stone of todays ignorance and spiritual and mental dullness, that u can even begin to reason and communicate a concept or idea of subtle acquisition.

haha - I think Meow made this poll under the sinister influence of little green men or women : )

lol Meow, always putting a smile on my silly face PS: why is there a none of the above option? PPS: yeah! biased much Meow

I have been wondering as of recent, does one need to train/accustom their Qi to certain routines, movements or intents in order to fortify the memory of the mind, body, spirit interaction and build a library of applications and experiences, or is the Qi or Jing controlled and manifested through the Shen instantaneously based on current circumstances? Is it smart enough to know a playful slap wasn't intended to damage internal organs? - What construct of the mind-Qi network manages, directs and choreographs these delicate intentions? Many know of disciplines like Iron Palm and Iron Shirt, Buns of Steel.. wait what? : ) Most of these require rigorous training to direct and train the Qi in order to create and fortify the communication network required to be able to manifest Qi physically for external martial application. This is one way to get the job done from what i have noticed. Beat the Qi into action, but surely there must be a more subtler approach? Ah yes, but of course. All those Shaolin monks we see on TV raising Qi from their Dan Tien into their limbs and backs and heads and fists in order to withstand physical masses and forces that would snap any other mere mortals bones like a twig... Undisputedly it works, but would you spend 10 seconds at gun point raising Qi or Jing from ur nether regions to create an iron vest, odds are you might weird the offender out of his plans than subdue his assault by means of supernatural feats, oh and don't forget to close, 36 then 24, you thought u were gonna make a quick exit didn't u : ) Then we have the mommies and daddies who subconsciously summon the strength of titans and lift up 2 ton cars in fear of losing the loved one trapped beneath its crushing weight, and the only internal work they've ever done is a root canal. So how does this all work? - Do we rely on Shen to control Qi in such situations, or are there exercises one can learn in oder to establish intelligent control over physical manifestations? - Perhaps it is something we learn, just like walking as babies? Is Yi/Intent/Will the governor of these manifestations? Do we control the nature and power or subtlety through our heart and mind? What determines a healing projection as opposed to an offensive projection from a point like Lao Gong or Yong Quan. In my experience it is intent, but how much in control are we of our intent? What if accidents happen? Is autopilot better than manual? - Is it a learning experience or inherent Prajna waiting to be accessed at the right time. I know there are some higher level practitioners here. It would be nice to hear from anyone who has experience with physical projections of Jing, Qi and even Shen for healing, defense or offense. What do you feel determines the nature of your manifestation, you or YOU? : )

Thank you Gold. Your views and opinions are yummy food for my brain. Thanx for joining in : )

Thank you for that balance, those were very helpful. I am eager to see what Drew-san has to say about this. This one by ShaktiMama appealed to me the most: "We attract people into our lives based on our own deep subconscious programs. If you think you are a loser you will attract losers. If you know you are a god you will attract goddesses. Being a nice and good hearted person is one of the most potent aphrodisiacs out there. Have the qualities of the heart that you wish to find in others and they will find you." Biff: Retention all the way yes. Although i'd like to say that i've kept it in for a full year that would be a horrible lie and Kharma scares me : ) - However i have definitely noticed that you can gain very good results in your practice without having to be celibate all the time. For example if you're "accidentally" relieved of your essence once every 3 or 4 of months, the effects do not seem to be detrimental to progress, comparatively speaking of course with several times a week or once a month etc. I may be way off base here but i think it all depends on the amount of energy needed to charge capacitors to peak highs, so the variation in the effect of feeling drained could very well depend on the level of your attainment or current goal. I would like to go full time though and this is what i am doing. It is a little harder when being in a relationship, but she is very understanding of my limitations. The most prominent effect of retention that i've noticed is my heart opening up. I want to love everything and everyone, whether they love me or hate me. It is taking a while to get use to it, but i have learned through this how powerful love is. Practice wise Biff: I start out with some moving Qi Gong, based on Ken Cohens DVDs, then do the first couple of exercises by Chunyi Lin, then i sit in half lotus do a lot of spine twists and then i do sitting meditation for an hour or more concentrating on the Lower Dan Tien and throughout the day the most important thing i do which i think has advanced my practice immensely is practicing non-discrimination, keeping a blank mind, no thoughts, no thinking, just being. This has opened my mind and grown my wisdom and opened a lot of my channels. I think the best route is the most direct, just sit on your ass and meditate and when you're not meditating, be thoughtless. Reading "How To Measure and Deepen Your Spiritual Realization" has helped a lot.

I am an ok looking guy. I'm no super model, but having stayed away for a year from women and coming out again after meditation, there is just simply no way you can miss the eye piercingly evident difference in that magnetic attraction the opposite sex has. It hits you like a brick in the face. Sort of like you've been driving a tractor all your life and then you get into a Lambo and floor the pedal, it's that obvious, so i want to find out why. I want to know if i am losing energy this way or not, because i have felt so drained the past 3 days after girls crowded me like that, that waking up in the mornings afterwards i felt like i have been totally drained, so much so that i can't even hold my fork and knife without them shaking like i have parkinsons or something. And then after i meditate, i am charged again and feel like a million bucks. I am conscious about the fact that i may be confusing the object which is causing me to feel drained, but when i am with women is the only time during the day that my centers activate like that.

I agree with this Scotty, Some people look damn good and smile, but i'd never be attracted to them with a magnetic intensity. There are a lot of Yin and Yang energies in the body. Enough in both concentration and number to be able to output an individual identifier for every person. For example: I could be 1001101 based on my personal average of Y/Yg energies, which would place me under a particular category of energetic personality types that would be predisposed by their very nature towards attraction with only another specific group of complimentary opposite identification. Maybe there is more than just "ideals" and "principles" and "religion" when it comes to the compatibility between two people that leads to "chemistry"or "clicking". Perhaps it is possible that a strong attraction of the opposite sex occurs when an inverse Yin/Yang identifier is matched eg: Female: 1001101 + Male 0110010 = Very Strong Energetic Compatibility. Could it also be possible that people loose a synchronization in energies as their own personal Yin/Yang balance changes that leads to an incompatibility in personalities within long term relationships?

It's not that Gold. I've had enough experience with women in my life to know the difference, and i am very good at catching subtleties. I have been meditating in solitude for the past year and now that i am out and among women i can tell there is a very noticeable difference in their attraction to me. They are literally lining up and fighting over me and i have no interest in it whatsoever. It does not even boost my ego; every time it happens the only thing that grows is my curiosity to know how it works, so i can learn more about myself. The attraction simply does not make logical sense to me, there must be something more to it and i'm thinking it has to do with increased Jing. Like i said, when i sit in a room now with women my heart will light up, but if a man walks in, my lower dan tien and sexual center will get activated. Surely this on its own is sufficient an indicator to concur that there is in fact an energy exchange of some nature taking place as i interact with people of both sexes, not just women. I believe there is a process of sorts that takes place subconsciously or otherwise. Exactly. This is quite what i am saying. Do you not consider a change from the state of being "uptight" to that of being "approachable" a change of energy in itself? - When people are angry, even if they don't look it, sometimes you can sense that "vibe", is it then too far fetched to assume that Jing the coarsest, earthly and most palpable of the three treasures may have the capacity to radiate it'self intelligently in a form of energy interaction with other individuals? If beings residing on an entirely different frequency than us can sense and feel attracted to an increase of our energies through meditation, then why do we exclude that a similar reaction is capable of creatures on our plane of interaction? I disagree with this Gold; i am personally very attracted to people who are depressed or in pain, whether they look good or bad externally. I am attracted by a strong sympathy and love to help. I understand this principle and am well accustomed to it, but on that note, who is to say the subconscious mind doesn't notice Jing or Qi and feel drawn to the object. Maybe Jing and Qi and even Shen/Light from which i am very far, may hold information within it's frequency that sort of advertises our personality, health, character, intention, feelings etc. - sort of like pheromones or saliva. I have heard of cases where people can actually identify an individual by their frequency emission from a distance. If the mind can identify with this, then surely it also has the capacity to identify and distinguish that frequency in other manners that would increase the uniqueness, quality and character of the emission to make it not only receivable, but distinguishable and subconsciously "ratable" on a good/bad scale? I think there might be more to it Gold. I really do feel a huge difference and that heart and sexual center interaction around women and men is an indication that something is going on too. I am definitely not hurting anyone, but I will investigate : )

Yes every day. It is like trying to start a fire with two sticks, if you stop spinning the spindle for a moment you will lose heat and drift further from your goal. You have to keep the friction going until you see smoke and then fire : ) Every time you stop it takes a little longer to get back to where you were. As for nocturnal emissions... You need to be mindful of your penis and your Jing and your mind. When you get aroused you will feel it, sometimes you may not even be thinking sexual thoughts. Either way whenever this happens take the opportunity to meditate for a short while. Sometimes it may take 10 mins sometimes 30 minutes to bring everything back to the lower center, sometimes longer, occasionally a few well concentrated deep breaths into the LDT will seal what i consider "a leak". Imagine your LDT is an empty bucket, the more you meditate the more you fill it with petrol (Jing). Right under the bucket you have a silent burning flame; Your Penis, always ready for action, like the cyclic igniter on a stove, it just goes click, click, click, click until it gets some gas and boom. The good thing is that only your hand can turn the dial on the gas. As the quantity of the petrol builds in the bucket the weight of the liquid forces itself through the small cracks (This is your discipline) and pushes out of the container... If these leaks are left unattended they will roll down the sides and bottom of the bucket accumulate into one larger stream and trickle off the bottom and into the flame creating a chain reaction which will ignite the entire volume of the bucket. If you do not patch the leaks when they occur... if you do not sense them in time... When you go to sleep it will be too late. There may be other theories on how to handle this, but IME u have to meditate to seal the leak when it occurs. I use Taoist breathing to do this, with deep breaths, the sort of deep breath you take when you are halting yourself from ejaculating. In fact one deep breath can halt an ejaculation entirely, so when it comes to simply patching a leak it is very effective in centering the energy and calming the jing. As your character and concentration and will build you may notice that you do not even think about sex anymore, and the cracks in the bucket start to close on their own. But do you have to meditate when the jing is stirred? - IMHO very much so, yes.

Sloppy, I had the same problem as you untill several months ago. I deal with it very naturally now. Whether someone is irritated, or angry or sad or shy or in pain, i've noticed that if you stay "Detached" you can reply to everything with unconditional love and sympathy. Then the angry people aren't just angry, they are aggravated, they are irritated, they are escalated, they are in pain... and you automatically want to help, want to love, want to make them feel better; oddly enough even when they are being angry at you. Two separate people women this week asked me, "are you this nice to everyone", "do you treat everyone like this", and when i replied yes, they became threathened and unapreciated because the "i am being nice to you because you are special" factor just flew out the window for them; and i do not have the vocabulary to express to such a person why giving love to everyone, whether you like them or not, whether they are bad or good, sad or happy is a GOOD thing, is a BETTER thing. In the past year i've steadily learned to detach from that emotional spider web that would normaly grip at my heart and mind and make me a prisoner of my emotions, causing me heartbreak and pain and sorrow and sadness. The more i learn to let go, the more i become surprised by the capacity of my heart to love people, to go beneath the surface and i feel love and sympathy for them. I am very sensitive when it comes to peoples vibes. Before when someone was mad or angry i'd become very aggitated, if someone was sad id become sad with them through my want to help, i'd share their pain. I would soak their energy in and share it with them, but now i realize all i had to do was what they were doing and give them a waterfall of love, give them an energetic love bath. It is very weird, but i feel that love is like the 5th element when it comes to emotions. It can suck in everything else and dessolve it and transform it. I think you should always try to meet emotions with love. This is what i have learnt thus far. The more you love the less pain you feel, the more you can love and the more you can share and heal with your love. Try opening your heart more Sloppy and the next time you encounter such a situation take it as an opportunity to exercise your unconditional love. Chunyi Lin keeps writing about unconditional love and ive read it 100 times, but only untill recently did i understand what he means, and really there is no better way to describe this concept than with the words "unconditional lovë", his message truly is inspirational, if more people could understand it the world would be a better place. Also Sloppy, i think a big factor in helping me reach this stage of transformation was having intimate relationships with women, but without sex. This really opened my eyes to the transformational power of love, now sex has dropped really far down on my list. Haha i just felt my third eye go crazy when i wrote that last paragraph. It was like yieeaah "10+ XP".

I haven't had a cold in years, but when it does happen, i eat fruits and exercise. Apparently it seems, the cold doesn't handle exercise too well : )

ShaktiMama (hugs) He is just expressing repressed anger about his lack of experience with older women, thats all But i think he was quite serious as a matter of fact Well if you can have mind blowing sex and keep from ejaculating and that is your goal, then i don't see any logical reason why that should be limited to only more mature women with as you put it, non-tight vaginas A leak in your boat somewhere I am sensing, there is.

I'm sorry man, but that just made me mega LOL I'll have you know btw, that an older woman, whether less physically attractive or not can blow your mind sexually compared to most young gals out there... And i'm not even talking about vaginal or anal sex. It is all in the mind trust me. More experienced women can take sex to a whole new level, so i have to HUGELY disagree with your recommendations. I also don't like the way you objectify women, but thats just me.

If "my way" is A and the deviation is B, whatever "way" resulting from the contrast of A + B is not necessarily = to "the true way" (which by definition is relative), but just another "way", which could just as credibly be someones else's personal understanding of "the way" or "their way". Although the quote certainly has a deep sense and i can see it's applications and definitely has the potential for aiding problem solving, i remain partial to the texts of the man who said that: - The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name. The unnamable is the eternally real. Naming is the origin of all particular things. Free from desire, you realize the mystery. Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations. Yet mystery and manifestations arise from the same source. This source is called darkness. Darkness within darkness. The gateway to all understanding. - Yet even if you achieve the highest goal, how can you be sure it is? Is the Tao you think of the real Tao, is your way the real way? A question within a question, within a question... "This source is called darkness. Darkness within darkness." I say No questions, within no questions... the gateway to all understanding! If the man on the bicycle rode while concentrating on keeping to an obstacle free road, he would have concentrated on an obstacle free road and thus all obstacles would have been non-existent.. rather he looked at the 1 obstacle in plain view amidst an obstacle free road . And the job was not done efficiently : ) I suppose you can either look at the obstacle in order to determine what part of the road is obstacle free, or you may simply directly look at the obstacle free road : )

Hello Awake, Consider having an ECG and based off those results maybe even an echo-sonograph. (Cardiology Department) You MAY have slight heart palpitations: http://en.wikipedia....iki/Palpitation I can tell you now that this can be hereditary or anxiety and stress induced. Funnily enough the same could be said for almost any dis-balance : ) I know the sensations you are experiencing and it's an annoying disturbance. However, If you get quiet enough in body and mind you will naturally feel your heartbeat, also during excitation. So it's perception is not always related to a condition that should worry you, but it's best to check things out, this way you will know what is going on and after a *cough brute diagnosis some of us here more competent on the matter may be able to provide some less invasive advice to help remedy the situation. Go ECG >> SONOGRAPH to make sure it's all good. Good luck : ) PS: The reason for my palpitations were adrenaline during anxiety attacks, living in a hostile environment. So moved to a new country and started meditating, all gone now : D

Read Taoist Yoga Alchemy and Immortality.

One of the 100s of these threads really needs to be stickied. Perhaps an official intro-guide on the sticky?

lol Thats what i eat every day, less the cheese : ) It's not a diet to me though, just a habit

Cheerios ShaktiMama! Hugs!

Internet and free Qigong! - I'm moving to Norway : )

Sounds like he is a happy camper : )

I uploaded that to youtube this afternoon and it was going viral until YT took it down due to animal cruelty. I had titled it HEARTLESS girl drowns puppies in river... HEARTLESS i SAY! Was she too lazy to leave them at the pound? - I am sure they would have found very happy owners there, rather she submits the poor defenseless creatures to such a cruel fate. She's really raged up the internet and people have already come together to find out who she is and i believe they have her facebook and whereabouts. Honestly i'd be scared if i was her. I know some pretty angry animal lovers. Animal cruelty is a no no, especially after watching Disney's Brother Bear 1 and 2 this morning, i am in a bit of a rage myself lol.

lol Blasto : ) OP - All i can tell you is that when i am away from girls with a physical/mental sexual disposition, it is as if sex or urges do not exist at all. My mind simply ceases to think of sex unless it comes from the outside. In fact i totally forget about sex until i see something explicitly sexual, only then do i feel my Jing stir, but this too is coming to a stop gradually and what would arouse me before now simply looks neutral. So to me desire is simply the arousal of Jing by sexual sound, images, bodies or other media. Thats all as far as i am concerned and i honestly don't see why bother looking into it. Just let it go. Most answers probably will not make your meditation better. If you get aroused, meditate afterwards to settle everything back in the Dan Tien. Honestly, your post is a bit of an overload for me, so many questions. Let the questions go and the answers you really need will find you. What do you care of this anyway? - It is what it is. Will the sun shine brighter if u know exactly how it works?