Maddie

Apples don't make the tree, the tree makes the apples. 😌

The worst transphobe I ever faced in my life was the one within.

Here's my issue with transphobic people though. Growing up in Texas in a very conservative and religious home I was taught that basically all lgbtq people were wrong and going to hell. As kids we just tend to absorb our parents' view so I actually thought this for a long time. This caused me to feel very sad for lgbtq people. It however did not make me want to go out and actively want to antagonize them or be mean to them. We can not understand something or even not to agree with something and still be polite.

Yes lol. It's not about the appearance it's about the identity.

I think that's why this topic tends to be so triggering for people, because it challenges the concept of our own identity and what do we cling to more then being or existence? According to the Buddha clinging to existence is the reason that we reincarnate.

Oooooh 😗.... Yes!

One side effect of transitioning that I'm not so keen about is that I used to be strong. Used to be lol.

No that's called crossdressing. We change our appearance to align better with our identity.

Oh I don't think anything is wrong with being gay, just saying that verse is not about being trans.

That's about homosexuality not being trans.

One of my family members told me I was going to hell for being trans and I said can you show me where it says that in the bible? They were unable to LOL.

That's very insightful!

Oh yes okay I understand now. This is exactly what I did for several years when I was trying to fight the whole thing. I told myself identity is an illusion it shouldn't matter. My mental health didn't care about my theory LOL. This goes back to what I said about the raft. And the big picture I realize identity is a construct but in the meantime I'm in the middle of the river on that raft I'm not there yet I need to do what I need to do to have the best life I possibly can and not be miserable all the time. I think a lot of people are forgetting that the process of enlightenment is typically long and slow and takes a lot of work and we can't just ditch identity because we decide that sounds like a fun thing to do on a Wednesday afternoon.

Well that's rational thinking lol

I'm sorry I don't think I understand.

Ironic isn't it?

Not only has almost all of my family stopped having anything to do with me after I came out as trans but since they're very religious I've been told repeatedly that I'm possessed by the devil and going to hell for being trans because they're concerned for my soul which I guess is a spiritual argument. So getting spiritual about being trans definitely is triggering..

One doesn't see through identity by being told that they shouldn't have one anymore than one solves their financial problems by being told they shouldn't have bills.

^the actual reason I transitioned.

I think it is important to remember that just because we discard the raft when we get to the other side of the river does not mean it would be a good idea to do so while still in the middle of the river.

That was an excellent summary. I had been feeling like someone else's spiritual understanding was being projected onto me.

Does anyone ever feel their LDT start tingling/buzzing for no reason, just randomly?

I don't recall in all of those semen threads someone saying "I am a 32 year old male and I really want to retain all my semen because then I'll be able to shoot lighting out of my nostril's like Palpatine" and someone coming at them like "why do you identify with being a male? Don't you realize gender doesn't exist because something something spiritual reasons?"

I haven't seen this level of "enlightenment shaming" for other topics lol. I guess on a forum like this one is more likely to try to disguise their transphobia with "spiritual terminology"? 🤔

People seem to get very "spiritual" all of a sudden when it comes to being trans lol.