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Maddie
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I think what I find interesting about all of this is that it seems to show that there are multiple methods of accomplishing cultivation. When I read the Pali texts they seem to suggest that only what the Buddha taught works, but maybe that's because at the time they were made they only knew of a small part of the world.
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Ok, so this is all very interesting to hear from someone else. Since I approached this from the Buddhist side of things, this is stuff no one told me about but "surprise surprise" it happened. Especially the blister like things at the end of my fingers and palms, and certain joints especially particular vertebra cracking as loud as a gun sometimes.
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I'm curious in your experience with qi going to work in your body did you notice your meridians purging junk and like having random crap come out the end of the meridians in certain joints popping a lot for a while? Did you ever get randomly extremely aroused sexually for no apparent reason like you're just sitting there staring at the ground and then bam? I'm just trying to make sense of some things that I've experienced when doing lots of practice.
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This was definitely my experience with it. I thought it was going to make me feel great and in a lot of ways it started making me feel worse. Also yes I really don't think most people have the patience for it. As an acupuncturist I'll have people who have had a chronic issue for 20 years and then when one acupuncture treatment doesn't make them completely better they think it doesn't work. Most people's patience is definitely not adequate.
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I have found this to be the case my personal experience. I gave Qigong an honest try for several years and honestly didn't really notice that much difference or benefit. As an acupuncturist I think I can get more health benefits and needling myself for 20 minutes then doing hours of qigong. I recently just started doing the workout videos that my teenage daughter does for fitness and I actually started noticing a lot more health benefit from that than I ever did doing Qigong. And as far as meditation goes I eventually switched over to Buddha's practices because I felt like that Qigong meditation was driving me crazy. I think the thing that disturbs me about the Qigong movement and taoism in general is that it's hard to get clear answers to what exactly is going on and I get the feeling the reason is because most people don't know what's going on. I also agree with freeform that getting into spirituality to get powers is the worst reason that you can get into spirituality. What sense does it make spending your entire life learning how to start a fire with your hand when you can do the same thing with a 90-cent lighter in 5 seconds?
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If one's practice does not make them kinder, more compassionate, and tolerant then I am not interested in their practice.
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And is filling the dantein synonymous with dantein breathing?
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So the specifics of Neigong tend to confuse me. Is the MCO part of inner alchemy or is it something else? and if so what? Is it related or different than Dan Tien breathing?
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I've found that FPMT has many practices for helping with one's financial situation. There are numerous sutras and mantras and other practices that are said to be helpful. This is what I am currently doing as my financial situation isn't that great lately. The Buddha taught that money or the lack there of was due to karma, specifically the karma of generosity.
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So is the process the MCO or Dan Tien breathing or something else. Understanding what the process is, is confusing. -
Would you mind elaborating on both what the practices are and the karmic cost please? *Edit: I've also seen Lama's recommend certain sutras like the heart sutra diamond sutra Golden light sutra and Sungata sutra for help with money problems.
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I get this effect through mantra practice even though I didn't know that was going to happen.
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I think for me the confusion with the Taoist method is that the label is used a lot but the methods seem to be vaguely referred to you so I don't know exactly what's happening. That being the case I primarily use Buddhist methods but what I've noticed through my own experience even though I haven't really read about it from Buddhist sources is all kinds of weird changes that take place in my physical body as I progress. I can feel my body purging old karma through my kidneys and several of my meridians expelled dirty cruddy Chi and I get these watery bumps along the line of the meridian. I also have electronics go haywire around me sometimes. But this is all stuff I just experienced that none of the Buddhist sources are read told me it was going to happen. Recently my daughter has begun to do some of the same practices as I do and she's begun to experience some of the same effects including the weird bumps along the course of meridians and other things.
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This is an interesting topic because I have dabbled with this mantra on and off but I always feel a bit uneasy about it. I wonder if anyone has done long enough to get any results?
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I find the concept interesting but I think the reason I ultimately went the Buddhist route is because the Buddhist route is well explained and I never could figure out how to actually go about the Taoist route. Do you know where to find resources on how to actually accomplish this process?
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I was searching this forum for anything on Nam Myoho Renge Kyo and was surprised to find nothing said about it. Does anyone have experience with this mantra? Lately I have found it to be pretty amazing. I'd be interested to hear anyone's experiences.
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Can you tell me more about "xing" and "ming" and how these are accomplished?
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What exactly is the Taoist niedan process? I hear it spoken about a lot without hearing what it is.
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Thought I would bump this topic and see if there are people out there with experience with this mantra. I am not really interested in talking about SGI but other sects of Nichiren are fine. Mostly interested in the mantra itself and people's experiences with it.
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Two paths to cultivation. Consciousness path(dhyana-samadhi) and esoteric path(energy,qi channels)
Maddie replied to Asher Topaz's topic in Buddhist Discussion
The source? I guess that would be the New Testament of the Christian bible, and the four gospels specifically. lol -
Two paths to cultivation. Consciousness path(dhyana-samadhi) and esoteric path(energy,qi channels)
Maddie replied to Asher Topaz's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Most of what I have learned up to this point has been from the Theravada point of view, so their take on it is that Arhats do not come back, that they are fully enlightened. The Mahayana view is different from what I learned but on the other hand I've recently been finding Mahayana practices seem to work for me much better than anything I did from the Theravada side, so who knows? -
Two paths to cultivation. Consciousness path(dhyana-samadhi) and esoteric path(energy,qi channels)
Maddie replied to Asher Topaz's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Actually I think as science understands more about the cosmology of the universe the idea of large amounts of time and speculation about what happened before the big bang and how the universe ends seems to line up a lot with dharmic notions of Kalpas and the cyclical nature of existence. -
Two paths to cultivation. Consciousness path(dhyana-samadhi) and esoteric path(energy,qi channels)
Maddie replied to Asher Topaz's topic in Buddhist Discussion
This earth and this Buddha Gotama are of course not that old, but what was being spoken of was not this earth, but other worlds and other universes and other Buddha's in the past. Buddhism teaches that the universe is born and ends immeasurable times and that there have been countless Buddhas in the past and that other worlds and solar systems and galaxies and universes have their own Buddhas as well. I remember one time I was reading this book I think it was set in the 70s and some westerners were at The meditation retreat center of some Tibetan Lama and one of them said what's the point of meditating if they could just drop the bomb any day? And the lama didn't even pause he said "they've already dropped the bomb so many times it's nothing new so just keep meditating". -
Two paths to cultivation. Consciousness path(dhyana-samadhi) and esoteric path(energy,qi channels)
Maddie replied to Asher Topaz's topic in Buddhist Discussion
There are several reasons I do not think Jesus was a Buddha. First from what I have read in the Buddhists texts, it is not possible to kill a Buddha. Several people tried to kill the Buddha but it never worked, they were always unsuccessful. Jesus on the other hand was obviously killed, and quite brutally as well. Also the primary message of a Buddha is the Four Noble Truths. While Jesus taught plenty about compassion and forgiveness (which is good) he never taught the Four Noble Truths or any thing like that. The Buddha taught that everyone must ultimately save themselves and that no one else can do it for them. Jesus on the other hand taught that he could save people if they had faith in him. -
Two paths to cultivation. Consciousness path(dhyana-samadhi) and esoteric path(energy,qi channels)
Maddie replied to Asher Topaz's topic in Buddhist Discussion
My understanding from the Pali Suttas is that Arahants also are completely liberated from Samsara and do not come back. The difference being that Arahants accomplish this under the instruction of a Buddha after he has already brought the Dharma to the world, where as a Buddha is the one that initially rediscovers the Dharma in a time and place where there is no Buddha Dharma. Buddhas also tend to have more wisdom and powers than Arahants.
