Maddie

They were scary as heck! lol

Interesting you say this. If I had to pick any one organ or element that relates to wealth it would be the Lung/Large Intestine/metal element. I've noticed over the past year or so as I've been working on this topic I get these weird water filled blisters along the course of the meridian.

Hmmmm 🤔 very interesting to ponder this.....

Possilby, but what exactly do you mean?

I didn't have any dreams last night, BUT I was woken up by pain in my root chakra area which is something that happens periodically when I'm working on these and similar root chakra issues.

They looked like sisters, they had wild hair and glowing eyes. They came out of the attic and we're chasing me. No there was no basement.

Actually a few minutes after I woke up I did think about what you did lol

So I was in this dream version of an old house that I was a kid in. So I'm in the house and I get the feeling something strange is going on in the Attic. When I look at the Attic these two creepy Spirit witches are in there and they look really creepy and weird and scary and they start coming at me but I'm saying one of my mantras to keep them away but I can tell they're looking for a way to get me. So anyway this goes on for a few minutes and then I wake up and I can feel something really bad in the room with me so I do the mantra for real and then it goes away. Coincidentally my daughter said that she had a weird dream last night that involved zombies.

In my dream they were. When I woke up I still felt something bad in the room with me. It went away with the chanting.

When I first started cultivation I had no interest in this sort of thing at all, but years latter now it seems to be my main practice and what I get the most out of for what ever reason.

lol I know what feng shui is, I was wondering if you had any specific advice for what I was sharing?

I get these types of patients in TCM as well sometimes. They think I should be doing this for free for some reason.

What feng shui advice would you have for this? Or explanation?

Ok so probably the weirdest thing (and least expected) by far is the spiritual opposition I've felt from posting this. Even before I posted it I felt something or someone was very upset at the notion. Last night I was harassed by two evil spirits when I was sleeping that had the form of evil witches or something. It even woke me up and I had to ward them off with the Vajrapani mantra. Today I've felt inexplicably agitated until I again did the Vajrapani mantra which is specifically aimed at warding off evil forces. This is really weird and totally unexpected.

This is probably going to take me some time to digest, but I think this is really good!

You are probably sort of on to something. If any good has come out of this thread so far its the questions I've gotten about why I feel the way I feel about this topic. After a great deal of contemplation I have decided that the best explanation is that its simply karma. I've already had two great karma projects in my life. The first was relationship karma which after a lot of effort did change. Same goes for career karma. I began with those two because I went in the order of how much I felt each one was affecting my life. Now I'm at money. I remember when I first began to deal with the other karma at first it seemed over whelming and impossible but with persistence and time it did improve. That being said I am reasonably confident that this will be the same. It's just going to take time and consistency.

I think what does get weird is a few things. First of all the reason I posted this topic in the general discussion as opposed to the rabbit hole or on this website at all is because I wanted an "alternative" point of view on the topic of money. I am already aware of the common sense basics such as don't spend beyond your means, there is a difference between needs and wants, save money, ect., but this is a lot the feed back I got. Secondly there were a lot of assumptions made about me, with out knowing me. I was told to be generous, and grateful, yet I am. Alan Watts makes a good point that along with a lot of other aspects of Western culture there is a lot of guilt regarding money and it is assumed that money must come via suffering. The last point I'll finish with, (and this is hard to explain and still vague to me) is that I have felt an unusual level of "spiritual opposition" since I began this topic. I don't understand this and find it odd, but nevertheless I notice it.

Yes I get that. The tricky part for me is that I have been burned by so many "teachers" its hard to trust anyone now. Though I am aware that practices don't exist in a vacuum. I do think this is a common attitude for many Westerners. Meditation is the last thing listed on the eight fold path and most advanced, but many Westerners like to just skip ahead directly to it and ignore most of the rest. One thing I actually do have a lot of training in is TCM which is one of the reasons I am wanting to explore more cultivation techniques that utilize this.

.... reducing reactivity.

I noticed over the years that I tended to have adverse reactions to a lot of practices that I was told were safe. Last year I even had to back off of Buddhist breath meditation for the same reason.

Very strongly agree. Getting off autopilot, not reacting to reactivity, waking up is the goal. Typically when I notice reactivity that's when I take a look.

I would agree that I have a peculiar reaction to the topic of money.

It's why I stopped several years ago with this practice.

I would say "it gets weird". The Allan Watts the video that I posted discusses many of the weird attitudes about money we have in the West. And at the risk of sounding like a crazy person I was just woken up by two evil spirits that are extremely unhappy for whatever reason that I brought up the spiritual side of money. Coincidentally I had to ward them off with the mantra. I know this is not a typical day for me. So yes it got about as weird as it gets.

Well I was going to post the quote from Bill Brodi where he states Zhunti practice requires none of those things you just mentioned but then found this for the first time in my life. But just to show what Brodi said. Nevertheless I had made two points. The first was doing a lot of zhunti had greatly changed other karma in the past very effectively. The second was it sucked and was painful. Like I said for years I was under the assumption from Brodi that Zhunti mantra was totally safe to do, but my experience and that first article that I just found and posted it seemed to indicate otherwise. On the other hand last year I quit meditating because I was having adverse reactions to that as well. That being said there are several mantras and chants such as Nam myoho renge Kyo, Amitofu, and om mani padme hum that are said to be totally safe for anybody to do by the groups that advocate them. As I stated earlier in the thread it's not like I've been unsuccessful with mantra practice as I gave more than one example of karma that I had changed successfully. It's just that my money karma is the most recent attempt of mine.