Maddie

I know what you mean, for I feel that I have spent a large amount of my life in this state as well. I feel that only lately am I slowly beginning to come out of this "fog". The means which I have used to accomplish this is simply by doing qigong dilligently, trying my best to do practice daily, and just like a tree grows, little by little, changes are taking place. Being American sometimes it can be hard to be patient and let the changes take place naturally lol (we like instant enlightenment), but then again that mind set is part of the problem (ironic eh?).

I'm not going to endorce any one specific type of Qigong because I think likely most types of Qigong if practiced diligenty will produce healing over time. My personal routine mainly consists of 8 brochades, inner smile/healing sounds, MCO ,and healing love, but like I said I think its less the specific routine I do, and more just having the dicipline to do it daily.

Good luck to you in your endeavor to escape the matrix lol.

There are lots of remedies for the common cold as has been seen just on this thread so far. As far as herbs go, again a lot of good herbs that produce good results. In Traditional Chinese Medicine herbs are prescribed depending on the cause of the cold, as there is not just one type of cold in TCM. There can be internal wind, heat, wind-heat, dampness, ect.... So a doctor of TCM would prescribe herbs depending on what internal disorder was the source of a particular cold.

From the more general western herbal perspective, Ecanesia and Golden Seal are very good immune system boosters. If you are familiar with the specific source of your cold, for example dampness then a good drying herb such as Ginger would be appropriate. If you had Liver wind then maybe a good liver detoxifying herb would be called for such as dandilion or milk thistle. Often the lungs are affected and licorice is good to tonify the lungs, and a natural decongestant such as nettle leaf helps with the immediate discomfort of nasal congestion and mucous. If you have a lot of mucous, which is a symptom of dampness a spicey herb such as a hot pepper is good to breaking up the mucous, inducing sweating, and cleansing the digestive tract (which houses a lot of our immune system.

If you want to really keep it simple I really like "Airborne" that herbal mixture that you sizzle in water and drink. It contains a lot of the herbs mentioned above, is easy to prepare, and very effective.

Is the question how to heal yourself of a cold or others? As far as myself goes I've noticed regular Qigong practice is great preventative medicine. It keeps my immune system strong, and its rare for me to come down withi something, and if I do I tend to bounce back quickly. If another person gets sick, such as one of my kids for example. I have found Chia's "Taoist Cosmic Healing" book to be very effective. Its all about projecting your chi into others for healing purposes. I have had rather remarkable results on my kids and others with this technique. I'd recommend anyone interested in healing others check it out.

I've found that in the short term (like I got to deal with this right now) the Big Draw if done right is very effective in helping with this.

You asked the question that has pretty much been the major problem I have been seeking a solution for ever since the beginning of my pracitce. After having asked this sort of question for a few years now, and also after having really not recieved any good answer I have been trying to figure it out on my own. I'm not sure if you read my musings on the Middle Dan Tien thread but I feel like my experimentation has been leading me to get the results I want in that direction (the results I want are the same as you seemed to indicate). After much trial and error, experimentation, and meditation I seem to so far have made the most progress in this area while working on the Middle Dan Tien area (including the organs that fall with in its area, heart, lungs, ect.) I theorize that if a man's middle dan tien is blocked then it might increase the pressure seeking to escape through his more opened lower areas. Additionally one of the major problem areas of the heart meridian is over excitement. Over excitement would definately describe my reaction to seeing a good looking woman. I also think that sometimes we guys seek women/sex as a way to boost our morale when it is low. The lungs are also in the middle dan tien area and their main problem emotion is sadness. So if we are feeling lonely, bored, dull, (all the various flavors of sad) then I think our lung meridian causes us to feel in such a way that we want to reduce those feelings (fire "the heart" melts metal "lungs" = excitement reduces the blahs).

The middle dan tien / heart center is the part of us that desires to connect with others on an emotional level. The sexual organs (in the lower dan tien area) also want to "connect" but in an obviously different way (not good nor bad just different). So lets take person X with a closed middle dan tien relative to his lower dan tien. Person Y has a more open middle dan tien relative to thier lower. It is reasonable to assume that person X is going to be attracted to others sexaully faster (energy follows the path of least resistance) and person Y is going to be more likely attracted to others emotionally sooner. Most often person X is how men are wired and person Y is how women tend to be wired.

So all of that is to basically say that I think that if we work on removing blockages from our middle dan tien area our energy will then have more than one gate through which to easily exit. The method which I have been using to accomplish this is a combination of heart and lung healing sounds and inner smile, as well as breathing into the middle dan tien much like we do with our lower dan tien. This has so far been seeming to move me in the direction I want to be going in. Hope this helps, and any other insights would be appreciated.

I do not know about having multiple orgasms yet... Only this week I have learned how to separate orgasm and ejaculation, so I still need some time to practice and figure things out during intercourse. Here is what I know:

 

Orgasm occurs just before ejaculation. If I approach the sexual climax slowly, coming right up to it, then stopping, then coming up again, stopping again... if I do this a few times, it will make the orgasm more enjoyable once it comes, because there is more energy waiting to explode up my spine. It also makes it more controllable. It's like I'm guiding a chariot of horses towards the edge of a cliff; they're easier to control if they're moving more slowly.

 

So finally, after flirting with the point of no return, I will just go towards the orgasm. I need to pay extra close attention to when the orgasm happens, and I inhale deeply with my belly as soon as it happens and feel the warm energy flow up my spine into my brain. But as soon as the event happens, I also need to be very vigilant and flex the PC muscle tightly. It is easier for me if I am laying down, because I need to squeeze my anus together tightly. This was the hardest part for me to learn, it just takes lots of practice: to learn how to control and stop the ejaculation, and to learn, experientially, how orgasm and ejaculation are different.

 

So in this way I can experience orgasm without ejaculation. The orgasm does not feel as satisfying as an ejaculatory orgasm AT THE MOMENT, but I am not depleted afterwards, so in total, the orgasm is more rewarding. Also, my penis doesn't feel like a beating-red, over-sensitive organ that I would be embarrassed for a woman to see. My body and my penis retain vitality, relative to an ejaculatory orgasm.

 

However, it's not complete vitality -- I lose some stiffness, and I'm not as easily stimulated immediately afterwards. I think this is the right first step, though, in becoming multi-orgasmic: learning how to separate orgasm and ejaculation. I still have much to learn.

 

Tell me, what exactly is the big draw? (What is its purpose, how is it done?)

The Big Draw is what you do with the energy after you stop it from squirting out of your penis. Once you stop it at your perineum then you "Draw" that energy into your MCO and circulate it around till it gets to your Lower Dan Tien where you store it if your doing solo. If your doing it with a partner you circulate your enegy through her, and hers though you. Just a tip from personal expereince.... don't leave the energy in your head, always store it in your lower dan tien.

In the middle dan tien / heart center thread I was stating that I have a huch that in men the lower dan tien is predominate and that in women the middle dan tien is. So I find some of the above statements interesting as they seem to support this notion. I had not heard that women should avoid working with the lower dan tien except when they are menstrating at which time they are supposed to focus on the middle dan tien. But it is my hunch that womens middle dan tiens are naturally more developed and open, while for men its the lower, but thats just my personal hunch for now. Yet in my thread I felt that perhaps men should work on opening their middle dan tiens so that perhaps many "man" assosicated problems would find balance. Maybe if the woman focused on her lower that might help her to find more balance as well. I wish I could find a good source on this.

Ok so today I put this into practice as I'm not one to just rely on theory alone. I spent several hours today working on my heart center area, heart, and lungs (all middle tan tien territory). I did the inner smile and healing sounds for the organs in that area a very long time. Then as I was out and about today I noticed that my out look on the female gender was different. My views of and about them felt a bit more honorable today than usual (usual being my x-ray vision kicks in, their clothes desinigrate before my very eyes, and the imagination goes to work). It did seem that the energy in my heart area was less constricted so that I was able to feel more compassion for them, rather than to just want to feel them . They seemed more like someones sister, daughter, ect.. as opposed to (me love you long time). Likewise I felt less pressure in the lower areas, so perhaps with more energy moving through the heart area maybe the pressure in the lower areas was indeed lessened a bit. On the other hand I did feel a bit more emotional (not to the point of crying over soap operas and eating bon bons on the sofa) but more emotional nevertheless. I'll continue this tomorrow and see what happens.

I have, after some time, finally gained enough control of my PC muscle and my sexual function to reach orgasm while stopping the ejaculation process. I have realized that orgasm occurs right before ejaculation, and after orgasm, can immediately "close the pipes" and stop the ejaculation. I think that this is a positive, because I don't feel drained, now, after orgasm, and also my penis doesn't become sore and limp, or especially sensitive to touch or stimulation. I have done this several times through self stimulation, and once with my partner

 

However, my erection seems to go away after the orgasm -- not as quickly or as completely as an ejaculatory orgasm, but I do still lose most of my stiffness.

 

I am wondering if any Bums with experience can tell me why this is? Can I continue stimulating even through the orgasm? I tried once, with my partner, but I found it was more difficult to hold the fluid in (in fact, I didn't hold it completely in). Or should I stop even sooner? Or, is there a third option that I'm not even considering? Perhaps just patience and persistence, letting my body adjust?

 

Thanks for any help! May any light you share with me find its way back into your life in a form more useful to you.

In my own expereince after you stop ejaculation and do your energy circulation it tends to go limp a little, but I think that is just a sign that you have moved the energy from there to the places you want it to be. Once you begin the next session it tends to get right back to attention

I think there has been a lot of good advice on here. 1. Cardiologist, 2. Acupuncturist, 3. Your probably just becoming more senstive to what was already there. All those things have been already said and I agree with all of them, and though I'm not a pro so don't take this too seriously my intution tells me its probably 3. but I'd still start with 1. to rule out any possiblity of a more serious problem. good luck

Hello everyone and how are you, haven't been on in a LONG time, but I need some advice. I am trying to learn sexual kung fu and would like some tips from you guys on how to go about doing it.

 

I have found that Michael Winn and Mantak Chia have excellent sources on taoist healing love techniques and I have practices quite a few of them but I am still having a problem mastering injaculation.

 

Even though I am doing the big draw I find that I still get that tingling feeling in my penis like it wants to ejaculate.

 

How do overcome this feeling of wanting to ejaculate to experience injaculation?

 

What are the best sources for learning sexual kung-fu besides the ones I mentioned above.

 

namaste,

 

Immortal

From my personal experience and from what a lot of others have said .... I tried to do the Big Draw before I had a good foundation of other practices such as a good and flowing MCO and inner smile / healing sounds. The whole point of the Big Draw is to draw that orgasmic energy into your MCO. If the MCO is not really open well then its not going to work properly, and the energy will get stuck in your genitle area. This can lead to stagnation which then can lead to a whole lot of other problems. Check out this well read website [email protected] and look at the dangers of retention article under healing love.

Just for a moment, let's forget the energy thing.

 

What if the dantien had a physical substance to it that needs to be trained before you even can start thinking about energy? Its separate from sex, doesn't matter if you retain or not, and can be filled regardless of timing.

The whole purpose of qi gong and nei gong for that matter, is to build up your internal reserves at every level, that you generate more vitality and can eventually supplement your pre natal qi, regardless of your parent's or grandparent's disregard for its existence. (and i did that without mentioning energy...)

 

Its a lot like trying to cook a meal in a crappy Target bought pot, with very thin metal. You may be able to make a decent meal, but the cookware will disintegrate sooner than later, and you'll probably only slightly enjoy the nutritional benefits of the food.

 

So putting the cart (energy) before the horse (physical structure) will reap only minuscule rewards.

 

With that said, get control of your dantien. That means externally with the physical muscles of the abdomen, obliques, and back. Then start to control the inner aspects of the lining. Deep belly breathing with pocketed control of the pressure in every region of the peritoneal cavity. Then learn to use the deep fascial connections

that connect the qua to the upper chest region.

 

This is learning how to use the "walls" of the tire, before you up the pressure of the dantien. You don't want a blow out at any of the sealing points, so best to have thick walls and good control over all regions. This alone will greatly alter your post natal qi and start you on the right track.

 

any recommendations as to how to do this?

yes the lower one and there's more dan tiens to fill? and if u have sex do you have to start over again?

There are three dan tiens, lower, middle, and upper. The question on if you have sex and having to start over again depends. If you don't have sex too frequently you don't necessarily have to "start over" just replace what ever precentage that you lost during ejaculation. If your dan tien was very full then most likely returning your energy level to pre-ejaculation won't take as long. Of course if you over do things sexually then the rate you depelete your dan tien increases and therefore it takes longer to recharge it. It also depends on your age, health, general constitution, and the amount of pre-natal jing you are born with.

I assume we are talking about filling up the lower dan tien eh? It did not seem to take very long for me to fill up my lower dan tien when I first gave it a try ( a few weeks I think). Filling up/opening my middle dan tien seems to be more tricky to me by far.

I just woke up this morning and I had this dream that I feel gave me an important insight. There is the heart center which lies in the Middle Dan Tien, and the sexual center which is closer to the domain of the Lower Dan Tien.

It has been my observation that people with blocked heart centers tend to be more focused on sex, while people who have blocked sexual centers seem to be more focused on the emotional aspect of relationships.

Think of it as a PVC pipe with water flowing through it. Now lets say I drilled two holes in this pipe. As long as both holes are clean water is going to flow out of both holes more or less equally. Now lets say that one hole becomes clogged or blocked. This will have the effect of raising the water pressure in the remaining hole.

So lets say one has their heart center blocked. Then that would seem to indicate that more pressure would tend to flow out of the sexaul center. Now it would seem that for what ever reason that a lot of men (and of course some women too) tend to be more straight foward "mission minded" less emotional in regards to sex as compared to women. Women on the other hand tend to be a little more problematic when it comes to achieving an orgasm than men (and usually are more sexually hesitant), but also seem to emphasise the emotional component of a relation ship then men.

This would suggest to me that in general men have more problems with blockages in their heart center, and women have more problems with blockages in their sexual center (and yes I know there are always exceptions). The man with a blockage in the heart center would have more pressure trying to escape their sexual center, and vice versa with the woman. It is easy to see how this would not only create a great deal of internal frustration (sex obsessed man, emotional woman) but inter-relationship issues as well. To the woman the man would seem to not care enough about issues of the heart, and to the man it would seem hard to get into the womans pants.

In my observations on homosexual couples, women who have become lesbians often tell me that their relationships with women are much more soft and tender than with men. Homosexual men seem to be highly promiscuous changing partners often. This behavior tends to reinforce my theory on where blockages tend to predominate in the various genders.

A third category might be the serious scholar / nerd who might be blocked in both the lower centers and only open in the Upper Dan Tien, the kind of person who seems uninterested in either sex or emotional relationships, but only in study and contemplation.

So then I suppose that the idea state is of course to have all areas unblocked so that in all aspects of life we remiain well blanaced. Yet if in a certain aspect of life we do seem to be unblanaced, then understanding why we have such an imbalance is likely the first set in finding a solution to that imbalance.

Flower remedies are a good way to determine a tree's personality, or at least the effect it can have upon your personality. Check out this description of flower remedies (a lot of "flower remedies" are from trees)

http://www.anandaapothecary.com/bach-flower-essence-remedy.html

Actually today I had an experience that was the exact opposite of fireworks exploding. I felt unusually lonely today for what ever reason. On a hunch I began to do the heart healing sound and inner smile. I was breathing out that lonely feeling (kind of like on Top Gun) but the odd thing was, the "lonely" energy that came out of my heart felt like "anti-matter". It did not feel like something but rather the opposite of anything, almost like a black hole. As I was breathing out this energy it had a very imploding collapsing feeling, very odd. At the same time as I was breathing out this anti-matter feeling stuff, I was breathing in intimacy as I believe that is what a heart lacks with it feels lonely. Yet as opposed to seeking intimacy from another human being this technique seemed to have me connnect to intimacy within. It was rather unusual, and difficult to put into words.

I like Ken Cohen's book too, lots of good basic info. I'm sure you will get a lot of various answers here as you already have. So I can't tell you what is the "best" for you, but I can share my experience.

When I first began Qigong I experimented with all sorts of various practices. What I found in my expereince is that starting off with the Physical Qigong (the movements) helped me to prepare for the more still sitting meditative Qigong. At first it was very hard to make my mind still enough to sit and meditate. Doing movements on the other hand took less mental concentration, yet had a very beneficial effect on my mind. After I had done the physical Qigong for a while (and I still do it almost every day) then it was much easier for me to move on to some of the still Qigong. Even now I usually do my moving sets first in the morning, and then do meditation.

Ok I'm no master, but thats just my experience, hopefully it may be usefull. :-)

So.... does anyone know much about the middle dan tien???

That was pretty interesting and ironic because just today I was pondering a lot of the issues mentioned. I was pondering evolution and the purpose of it all. Additionally I was pondering the Jehova god of the Old Testament / Torah. This is just my most recent opinion, but to me Jehova seems like a rather immature yet powerful, yet unenlightened being. He does not seem all that well adjusted and on a constant ego trip. IMO he is just a being with some power but without Tao. One thing that has long baffeled me about Jehova is whats up with the animal sacrifices? For that matter why did so many ancient religions practice this? Does sacrificing an animal for a powerful entity give that entity anything? or perhaps it was based more upon human understanding? I don't know, as usual I tend to have more questions than answers.

I found this site http://www.namastecafe.com/edu/symptoms.htm , and I have noticed that I am experiencing a lot of those symptoms as I have begun to focus on my Middle Dan Tien/ Heart Center. I still do not really understand what this area does/is/is for, but I seem to be experiencing a lot of those same symptoms nevertheless. Now I do not think that this is any sort of enlightenment, but rather I feel that it is the opening and healing of something previously closed and blocked (at least that is my assesement). Anyone else have any experience with these symptoms and/or the heart center/middle dan tien?

I had a very ...er.."interesting" weekend. Late last week I just had this intuitive feeling that I needed to do Middle Dan Tien breathing. I have no idea why I had this feeling, but I did. Usually in my Qigong practice this is the most ignored Dan Tien. So for the last couple days of last week I focused on my middle dan tien while deep breathing and also did the Big Draw to that area as well. Well this past weekend I was an emotional wreck. I almost never cry, but I was a basket case last weeekend. I felts soooo emotional on Saturday, and was weepeing, and sad beyond description, yet at the same time I was thinking about my children and felt as though I had never loved them more. (This is all very out of character for me). On Sunday and today I litterally felt ill. I felt sick and could not really stand up with out feeling dizzy and almost blacking out, and felt nauseous. I'm not 100% sure if it is connected, but it would not suprise me if it were somehow connected.

I don't know why all the guys on the taobums seem to want to rid themselves of sexual desire.

 

Well I can't speak for others, but as for myself I have several reasons for wanting to decrease sexual desire.

The biggest reason is that when my drive is strong it tends to be obsessive for me. I get a total one track mind and can not really concentrate on anything else. This is not blalance, and so I guess really balance in life is what I'm after, and it just so happens that a major area of imbalance as been sex. I suppose if it was gluttony or over eating then that is what I would be concentrating on bringing into blance.

I think it's more or less like you say...you just have to keep at it until it starts to feel real. I'd work with fusion of the five elements first for a long time until you really feel like you have that grounded in your body first though. When you really get the fusion of the five elements going chances are that lesser kan & li will just happen on it's own anyway. Afterall, it's really just a natural process that's happening all the time. The meditation is just a way of becoming aware of it and helping it along. And yes, a class would very quickly give you a feel for it more than any advice here could do. When you go to the class and the teacher has kan & li bubbling along, and the other students start to get it you'll get it too without really trying. Just like if you go into a room and everybody's laughing. Very easy to start laughing too. And once you've got the joke you'll never forget it. But you can sit around reading about the joke for a long time and never see what's funny. It's like they say...."you'd have to have been there."

Yea I see what you are saying about doing the fussion practise first. I can definately see how that could carry over to Kan and Li.

Hi everyone,

Well I can't believe it but I'm actually going to comment on this thread. At first I found it a little loly. But I do see your point on this. I have known a man from 19 to in his late 40's, and he has changed so much. You know it is true that woman always are about the deeper love, and affection... Men are more about the outside and just the getting it done lets say.

 

Now this is when we are young. I am 40 this year. We change all of us. Now as we mature, men also start to want the deeper side of things. And woman are just like well... are we there yet? So it does seem as if we change our attitudes on this to some degree. And it just could have to do with all this... And every person is different.

 

I know one thing that I have always noticed was "charisma" I think this is so amazing. I can spot it clear across a room. A person either has it or they don't. And as for all the outside good looks a person can have. If you don't have charisma than, well it's just to bad...lol Now thats just me... Take care Mel

 

 

I can't say for sure, but perhaps part of the reason that as men get older they seem to emphasize the physical less (at least some do) might of course be maturity over time, but another reason might be that as he gets older and has lost more of his jing, in the realtive sense he has different jing to chi ratio than that of a younger man (who are notoriously sex obsessed). And perhaps as people go through life and ponder life, this may act as a sort of mind yoga that may clear some of their channels. I'm not sure how charisma relates to this, but sometimes I feel more charismatic than other times lol.