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believe me he knows where he stands. You are not him nor have his ability nor his humility nor his level. Its not a false humility. He has true "ILMU GURU SEJATI" (True Inner Self power). It is the highest form of Ilmu Kebatinan and development. But even with such things he recognizes that it is coming 100% from the true source within & with out. ALLAH is much more than what we can "comprehend".... Let me ask you something "gold is heavy"..can you create planets yet? Can you create life out of nothing? How about more mundane things??? Can you cure cancers? Aids? Can you cure people of their ailments with out effort? Can you treat 30 people or more a day and not sleep and not get tired and not be affected by the energies, karmas etc you take on? What Pak does is almost "saint" like in my book. Even in true Bon po the highest tantric lama offers his abilities and all his attributes to the highest "non" conceptual mind both within & with out. There is nothing higher than complete self surrender to the ultimate DIVINE nature. The Sufi calls it ALLAH. Islam is that "surrendering" the real Jihad is killing ones ego & negative nature. ALLAH is much more than just what we comprehend as a "God" or the "true self". I am positive you do not know yet what ALLAH knows. I make no such claims either. Peace & God Bless Santiago

Exactly. the natives in America have a "Tummo" aswell. So do the Alaskan Inuits. It is from the Maha Siddhis Yogis (Rishis) this they all admit once you are behind closed doors. I know cause i have tummo empowerments from various tibetan lineages. Tummo is part of their "Trul Khors" yogas, the predecessor to the 6 Yogas of Naropa. As for the Bon claims it originates from an ancient Kindgom that spanned from ancient Persia to Tibet. All attribute it to the maha siddhis Yogis (Rishes). Peace Santiago

Actually you are wrong its from the Mahasiddhis who brought into Tibet it comes from India where it is HOT. It stems from under standing the "Solar" plexus Chakra. Tibetans have mastered it cause they need it. But it was actually practiced in the heat in India way before it was brought into Tibet as a "Yoga".

Very true man Amin

Abilities are for what? Why do we get them for? What is their Purpose? If all you are looking to do is to have abilities you will be chasing your tail for years. But if you look to help others on your path the universe will give you the abilities with out effort. And yes My teacher and teachers have done things like John Chang and in some ways have demonstrated things i have yet to see John Chang do. I in no way mean any disrespect to John Chang. I am just making a point here. There are many "Buddhas" among us. Peace Santiago

depends what Jinn we are talking about : ) Better to get things straight from the SOURCE

It takes time. The breath method I use is the KAP's Tummo Breath and the same found in Ilmu Batin. Except in Ilmu batin we are in constant "Zikr". Pak Muhammad's "Shock" is much stronger than mine. And he will be the 1st to tell you its not "his" power its one hundred percent from ALLAH/God/Universe etc. Peace Santiago

he is in UK he is doing a lot of healings daily on people all over UK. Sometimes he treats 30 people or more a day.

<<Also he is talking about certain techniques which work only on a real attacker. If the person is not attacking then those techniques cannot be used for anything else.>> this is tenaga dalam. <<He says - that it belongs to a method called golden dragon - but he insists it's not qigong as it's not thought - action - but rather a spirit that helps you. He also used a Somehow the spirit is activated by the mantra. He tried it without the mantra but the effect is very weak almost insignificant. It's a family style. >> this is what we call in ilmu kebatinan "jinn" magik.

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Pak Muhammad is from Banten (Cimande Village). He is also from the Badui. Very mystical people. He has a lot of knowledge about SILAT & Ilmu Kebatinan. He is truly a great man and healer and very humble. He tends to shock you when he touches you. sometimes like you see in that massage its a constant current.

I have taught myself many things but i still had to occasionally look and see what others are doing & also seek out those that actually have a clear picture. I know what its like to dig for years and get a glimpse and then meet a teacher that in five minutes basicaly shows you everything you did in 20 years. I do not regret or condone self discovery, but truth is someone has probably already done it. So do both. Learn from your self and also from those that have true connection to the true inner Self. Peace Santiago

Mike do not waste your time. You know what you know and you know what is truth. That is all that matters. Peace Santi

Hi my brother may you find work soon : ). I am well just got back from UK. Adjusting and getting back into the swing of things in America. See you soon. God Bless Santi Absolutely brother it can not be faked. The real power does not come from any man but from the ALMIGHTY (TAO, AUM, MAHASHIVA-SHAKTI, ALLAH). We are just granted slight access as surrender more and help others. Santi Jesus didn't start a religion he came to show light & Compassion. It was man that "started" churches etc and it was man who distorted his teachings. If you read the Quran it sets the record straight about Jesus. Also check out he dead sea scrolls. Gospel of thomas is clear as day as to what Jesus felt one should do. The King James Bible is the worst interpretation of Jesus since it was written 70 years after the fact and it is not accurate and has been changed MANY Time. Quran never has been altered. Neither have the dead sea scrolls. Absolutely brother amen to that : ) You my friend have zero adat Hormat or Adab I would seriously doubt Jon Chang would appreciate you commenting to Mike & Kostas this way. If you knew anything about indonesian culture this is not the way to be. I could let the cat out of the bag here but I wont due to respect for my elders and teachers from Java. If you look closely all that Mike is doing is warning people cause things can be dangerous if not done right. That is all. There is clear evidence that some paths are just a dead end. Peace Santiago

Some times the electrocution & massage was painful. Pak Muhammad tends to run electricity through him. He can shock as he touches you. Also his fingers are like steel. He massages al the bad energy out of you. What came out is Blood, water, sugar & Toxins from the internal organs. Its fascinating to watch him work. Peace Santiago

Christian nei Gung = Ilmu Kebatinan Christ Got it from GOD & the archangels direct as did other Prophets. How did Moses part the red sea???

It was great to meet you James & Tuk! And it was great to share with you how things are done & how Glenn's stuff works. Here is video of my Silat teacher Guru Ipin (Sheik Mohammad) healing me in UK. Peace & enjoy Santiago UlxCmszgxxM o79Zwz-hBR0

Mantis.... Why you haven't come to see me yet is strange since everything you ask for on this forum i can help you with. You think all I do is QI GONG? If you are humble bro I could teach you many things & also get you in contact with men that are truly on the "Next" level. Peace Santiago Just in london yesterday I MET 2 MAGUS/JEDI.....one from Malaysia & One from Java, BANTEN. (My Guru). They are out there and accessible but if one is not humble forget about it. No money in the world will make them show you a damn thing. Peace & God Bless. Santiago

Absolutely. Its not about getting rich its about feeding your family providing shelter and also being able to travel to tend to students etc. NOTHING IS FREE. There is always an exchange whether it be physical or Energetic. Peace Santiago

This is SO TRUE. Books can be good medium but to be honest in my experience they do not "have" the actual answer to the experiential wealth one needs from a good teacher. Cheers Mike. Santi

There is a lot in JKD that is very good. Bruce drew from many sources. There is infact a lot of "pieces" of Methodology from Xing Yi, Wing Chun, even Tai Chi, and he also trained and absorbed some of the real Silats when he went to Malaysia & when he trained in the US with Paul de Thouars and William Reeders. Bruce was a good gate way for people to get "in" to Martial arts. He speed and ability but he also had the proper "Tricks" to steal steps & make the best of timing & angulation. Peace S

Good Post Mike. : )

Hi bro send my Salams & warmth to Pendekar for me. Santi

Hi Folks those of you who have been patiently waiting i have some news, So far we have to potential locations 1 in Wales 2 in Way's house. I will have further details hopefully tonight. I personally am aiming for Wales simple cause we will have plenty of nature around us to get the most out of the CHI KUNG training. I will post soon . Peace Santi