Vajrasattva

Thanks Scotty, its hard to get away Peace Santiago

Dr. Glenn Morris Taught us that the secret sword could be done with or with out mudra. You could use the tibetan Vajra Dagger mudra or "Phurba" I learned this in my Tibetan training. Or you could use and Kuji or the Taoist one. (pinky & ring folded in under 1st thumb joint, Middle and 1st finger out straight and firm. There is an exercise we do to develop it in all the fingers of each hand so its not just limited to one mudra. or a finger for that matter. I should mention here Ken Cohen has a great 1 finger zen routine that is similar to the one we do for our development. So if you see his 1 finger zen training that will give you a good idea. The real secret sword eventually is You its not limited to a finger or a mudra etc. When you understand the 5 elements in your hands (fingers) you then can choose what element to work with your secret sword there for you would use the element you want for your secret sword so the mudra may change depending on what you want to achieve or do. Its a great thing to know as a healer to do deep work or precise energetic surgery or energy work. Peace Santiago Dobles

When i first did it I used a small copper pipe i bought at home depot...(OUCH).... But I sterilized it and then added boat loads of oil & Ghee so I could get it in me. I do not recommend that method. Later on My brother Tao discovered you could get medical supplies catheters for like $2.00 each. So that is the best way to go to be honest with you. They are already sterilized. To do that I just let it all sit in a mixture of peroxide & alcohol. Then I add some oil or ghee to lubricate it and then you just put it in little by little till it gets to the bladder. Careful in the bladder do not FORCE you could fuck yourself up badly if you do. as tube is going in I actually I blow a little into the catheter to help the tube go in. Mind you blow gently do NOT EVER FORCE. It also helps if you get one of those little kid nasal cleaner squishy rubber things and fill it with some peroxide and water and squirt that into your penis a few times to clean and open the channel. This may sting a bit but will not kill you. All of this does desensitize you a bit but you will not loose sexual feeling. It just sort of makes your dick tough like if you did push up on your knuckles. Again NEVER EVER EVER FORCE. Once the tube is in you can practice some Uddiyana Bandhas, Nabhi Mudra, Ashwini Mudra, Nauli Kriya. Madhyama Nauli Mudra. Once you understand the "channel" then you just follow it mentally you do not need the tube any more. This & the Big draw will do wonders in the sack for you and your loved one. Just remember one thing as Dr. Morris taught me about energy...... If you take once Give back twice..... This way you do not drain your lovers. Anyhow if you are scared of this stuff DO NOT BOTHER. If you do not know Nauli, uddiyana bandha, mula bandha, ashwini mudra, etc DO NOT BOTHER doing Vajroli Mudra. Learn the basics first then go through a harder step. When I began Vajroli Mudra I was already doing 1 hour of Shirshasana a day & 500 Nauli Kriyas a day with 10 to 18 rotations per side. If you think you are ready for vajroli then make sure you are CLEAN and your gear is CLEAN and your tools are CLEAN. Once you know the inner mudras you do not need apparatus. Also the real stuff is energetical not physical. I or Tao Semko can train you to get to that point if need be most of that stuff is found in umaatantra.com Peace Santiago Dobles

I can not take all the credit, The Creator and my Javanese Guru & Glenn have something to do with it aswell. Did you see how beautiful the sky was tonight?

I can show you how to do this. I did this for years as did Tao Semko. Its good, but to be honest with you its not needed. Better to learn Uddiyana Bandha & Nauli Kriya & shirshasana & Tummo if you want to transmute Sexual fluids. Damn I really tried to get away from the forum to get my work done : ) Ok I am heading out again i have some meditations to do. Peace Santiago

Actually........ Its a method of Healing, Cutting attachments, running your energy (Circulating Chi), a method of collecting divine intelligence, a method of directing energy for either healing or combat, a method of disrupting chakras, meridians, a method to deceive opponents in combat, a method to cut auras & etheric layers, a method to cultivate power. Its taught in KAP 2. The mudras are secondary to the actually secret sword. Peace, Santiago Dobles

THanks to everyone here. Some of you guys here are real Gems. Right now I am focusing on a heavy Ilmu Batin practice and preparing for a new career so I am taking the time to do those things. Like I said I am available through email [email protected]. Or contact Tao Semko [email protected] he is extremely knowledgeable. I will still have my account on here and will keep it I will just be more of a shadow for a while. here is a response i made for Adam West: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Adam West <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Santiago, I hope I didn't precipitate your leaving Tao because of my post regarding your inner circle correspondence course. My interest and questions were and are completely legit and sincere, and charitable. I guess I just wanted to know if what you were offering is legit - the real no nonsense, no filler, no doing all these levels to get to the real stuff? And more details about the material on offer itself. In Australia, not being American, we really notice the influence of American marketing - overtly sensationalist and over the top. And statistically, one generally finds the product is rubbish and there was only hype in advertising. Americans have made an art of it and are known around the world for it. It starts to undermine credibility and is no longer straight talkin, rather a recognisable marketing paradigm.>> What I offer is very real. And the only filler is the things you may need. Everyone is slightly different and at different stages so I offer tools for everyone. Unfortunately I do have to "sell my Dharma" as the Dalai Lama told me personally but there is nothing wrong with that if it helps people. So yes I have to use a slight amount of marketing but I am pretty conservative in that as well compared to others who do not offer a tenth of what i do. << I am a full time researcher, practitioner and aspirant to the inner wisdom traditions and enlightenment - started when 14 years of age when I had my first voluntary, conscious and intentional outerbody experiences induced through meditation. Since then I have had many profound experiences. My life is devoted to full awakening to our natural state - the non-dual Tao / Divine. I tell you this, because I want nothing more than to find a course such as yours that indeed was all that it presented itself to be. My point is, I am a legitimate "open cup" student with all the discipline and follow through one could ask for and am seeking reassurance you are a legitimate realized teacher who has a system anyone can learn that has basis is the authentic esoteric traditions i.e. Taoism, Bon, esoteric Buddhism, Kundalini yoga etc.>> Well I do not just teach but I live the stuff i have and do it daily. It has worked for my teachers and it works for me and my students. The only way for you to know would be to do it. << In any case, I wonder if you would answer some of the more pertinent questions from my post? Here it is again: Many years ago I used to work with active methods of Indian kundalini yoga - you know pranayama and active visualizations etc - Indian methods similar to Chinese Qigong. I worked with other active western methods from the western alchemy and magic and so forth and so on; and Chinese and Tibetan and others. Years later I moved on to, by comparrision, more passive methods found in Zen, Dzogchen etc. Right now I am interested in active methods again, to suppliment my sitting practices in stillness meditation.>> Its good to know active & non active methods both will bring you to where you want to be. <<Many of us know of Santiago on this board as Vajrasattva who is the head teacher and Guru of Umaa Tantra. He appears to have a long history in Tantra from several reputable teachers and traditions; with training and initiations from several traditions outside of tantra per se. He offers a complete distance course in the essence of the worlds various enlightenment traditions. >> Yes that is from UMAA tantra its mainly esoteric Tantra & Hatha yoga and various methods. Tao Semko runs that program now. He is in his own right a fully realized master. I teach my martial arts (Pencak Silat, ILMU BATIN), and Chi Kung (Hoshin Tao) , Kundalini awakening process( to honor my teacher and friend Dr. Glenn Morris). and I practice Bonpo actively daily through meditation and healing and offerings etc. Bon is just universal principles or a "WAY" to get closer to nature & the Divine. All i do seems to fit with this so that is where i am at at this moment. I still teach Tantra but with in the KAP system & or privately. It draws too much attention so I do not commercialize it. The tantra i teach is very real and its very magical aswell as spiritual. Everything i do is TANTRIC. So I am just simply Santiago Dobles, depending on where the student is at and what they want that is what they get. My priorities is to teach students how to heal themselves, how to find the divine in themselves & how to protect their domain. KAP has most of what I do in a nutshell I added things Glenn wanted and I added what I felt was appropriate. As I mentioned before not one method is for everyone so I offer all the ones that work regardless of what you do. <<I wonder if anyone has any experience in the Umaa Tantra course and if Vajrasattva would be happy to carry out a thread of open questions with regard to his course and exactly what it is composed of, and why he thinks serious aspirants ought to take it and how it differs from the KAP course and so on? >> The Umaa tantra is much like whats in kap but more in detail with Hindu Tantra & Shivaism. I would contact my brother directly for more questions he would be happy to answer them: [email protected] TAO SEMKO <<Vajrasattva, I see that as part of the course you teach stillness practices, where do these practices originate from and how do you see that they fit with the more active methods - physical asanas, breath work, manipulation of chi etc?>> The stillness methods i teach are mainly from Bonpo Zhine Dzogchen training , Glenn's "mushin" training & from taoism. Yes they are authentic. As for being active and non active.... in dzogchen you start from empty move to activity and then go back to emptyness. this is how i teach aswell. <<In the KAP course you teach weather magic and so on, do you teach these kinds of magical practices in the inner circle course, if so, what is the philosophy behind "actively affecting" the material world with one's Will and energy? Why do you teach it and why should your students learn and practice it?>> Well let me put it to you this way....I live in Florida we are always hit with hurricanes, there hasn't been one here in over 2 going on 3 years now. Since i actively started doing weather magic. Its not for show. Its for healing the land you live on. The action is Shakti I just conduct it to do whats best for the environment around me. Think if you had real yogis doing weather magic all over the world for the greater good....what would happen? The other day I had 3 rainbows and thunderstorms at the same time and after words it was a CLEAR beautiful sky. The trees are better and the drought in south florida is getting better now. Everyone has certain skills that are latent. That just happens to be one that developed from doing my normal practices. Glenn had a lot to do with it he was very good at it as well. God has a lot to do with it truly. Its just "tunning" in. <<There seems to be a lot of emphasis at the higher levels on tantric sexual practices, how do you see these methods working in with celibacy? What is their status / importance in the system you offer?>> I do not know I am not celibate nor do I care to be. Its not natural. My path is geared towards householders and people in society so I teach Tantra for the modern person. the sexuality although incredible is only a 10% to what tantra really is. Its about truly transforming things around you and yourself & loved ones for the better. <<Vajrasattva, how can we get a sample of the kind of materials you are offering so that we can see if we find resonance with your course and your style of teaching - could you make some interesting offers to those of us here at TaoBums? I would be willing to test drive the complete course and do so in a practice blog here on Taobums making daily entries describing the effects of the practices and my progress through the course - this may be very interesting if indeed the course is the essence of the worlds mystery traditions and as effective as one might expect. >> I have already given a lot to some folks on here. And have taken a few under my wing. I am sure they will chime in their feelings at somepoint. right now I am focusing on my training again cause i am entering a new career so I need to focus on that rght now and my family & Students need my attention right now which is why i decided to pull out of Forum at least for now. I was realizing i was spending tOO much time on there. At some point when I can I will offer seperate Dvd's for various subjects and teach a course on Skype for people. Cause i have to keep some of this stuff as an oral tradition for my teacher's sake. All I can say to you Adam is you will have to trust your heart. The only real Master is the Divine i just tune in. : ). Peace Santiago Dobles

You are always welcome to come visit. Santiago

HAHA I sent you a message in the void : ) Glad you got it. Yes my Ilmu Batin training this morning was VERY STRONG after a few minutes of my breathing training the sky ripped with some great thunder and HARD rain. But I must admit its just Shakti who does all the work I am just learning to be a better conductor. I was happy this morning doing my training. I was so pumped after wards I mopped the whole house my wife will be happy when she wakes up! I hope you enjoy the showers the Earth needs it as does the plants. Miami is always needing a god shower people get to tense here sometimes over nothing!. Mantis you should come to the fire walk on the 29th and come walk on a 10ft long 3 foot wide fire. Peace God Bless. Santiago

God bless you drew. Lay off the crack

Its a hard price to pay to just be simple and be real at the same time and not need the "robes", the "followers/groupies", the "titles". I have been lucky and blessed by the Creator that i had the opportunities to train with great teachers and that they didn't prevent me from sharing what I know nor charge me my 1st born children in the process. I have students all over the globe as well and they are well taken care of at all times regardless of money from their end. I do what i do cause i love to. I make my living in ways people do not have the balls to do and believe me if you know me you would want me on your side if we where in the worst places on Earth or in any realm. I would have your back. That is what I do for my students, friends & teachers and loved ones. I have been through the "cults" I have been through More Lamas than people can imagine I have been through more teachers than most. I have walked the path and I can walk it all the time and show others how to as well. I am sorry if I offended you in anyway not my intentions. If you feel that what you do is "it". Great DO IT. Peace to you, Santiago Dobles

How could I be any clearer? I said its a good asana however its not a MUST.

Only important if you want to focus on it but not the "Needed". More important is to learn to breath. and circulate chi. YES KWAS MUST OPEN! Even better when woman is on your YUB YUM with you! Santiago

Drew your mommy & daddy still wipe your own ass : ) So your lotus pose has done nothing for you to master this realm : ) I want you to know that i do like you and enjoy your posts but you are where you are cause of the Grace of the GOD/Universe, the Chi from your teacher & from your own energy. The lotus pose is secondary to all that. You want to sit around in Lotus pose all day be my guest I much more prefer the pose I am in 24/7 as I actually interact with the real world. And by the way you want to talk about asanas that will open you up faster than a bat out of hell? The only poses that will superceed any others energetically are the ones you do in Chakra Puja with a woman! There is a reason those have been kept so secret. One cycle of Chakra Puja is like doing 100 hours of advanced meditation by yourself in any asana (one cycle can be like 10 min if done fast. The slower the cycle the more advanced the development in Chakra Puja. Peace Santiago

I am not anti lotus I am anti people saying its a MUST to achieve things and enlightenment. Cause that is a FARSE...... Well here is the deal any time I suspend my spine energy is rushing through no matter what pose I am in. So it doesn't matter what pose I am in. You could devlope lotus sure but its not a MUST. I did it when I was younger along with hundreds of asanas. Asana can be any to achieve Enlightenment or self realization. The best asana is the one you can do every day at every moment that is the real yoga and to be honest with you its an internal thing. These are not in a particular order but you need all of them to succeed a solid balanced path. 1) breath control 2) lock or bandha & mudra 3) Inner Smile 4) circulation of energy, manipulation of energy. Thigle, channels, prana etc. 5) purifying & dissolving the 5 elements & chakras 6) Spinal Suspension 7) A sincere want to know the Divine & Energy & a sincere heart to responsibly use what you learn to help others. peace Santiago

Total Horse Shit : ) More Horse Shit..... any pose where the Spine is straight and suspended will work just fine. The lotus "MYTH" is Horse Shit. Do you see the Pharoes & the gods of Egypt in Lotus pose? NO Do you see the Gods in Tantra in Lotus Pose???? NO.... Do not buy into this myth. Santiago Dobles

EXACTLY! Yea it was about 3 am or so. : ) Yeah that is the trick integration of the NON dual into the Dual and vice versa.

Yes this is good idea if he really is your "guru" at this moment he will work around the $ and give you oppurtunity to pay it afterwards. you forgot the guns, and the land and the money he got out of his students oh yeah and the unlimited amount of drugs & pussy.....He was an abusive man. Yes some understanding but that is what happens when you never go passed the "Guru" state and or never fully surrender to the Divine or the Void. You see this is why i stay away from the robes & the silly space suits and the titles.... Its all bullshit : ) Teach from the heart live from the heart. End of story : ) peace Swami Makecheckpayabletomeananda

Breath Smile Love and be Compassionate as much as possible do not attache your self to love only on being compassionate. Its hard some times but its worth it. : )

no worries it was a fun discussion : ) By the way sent you some chi last night..even if you think its illusion , in this illusion it still helps ; ) mjjbecker - you are right being like child is the way : ) Hatsumi knows more than he lets on. peace Santiago

Cool to hear your post. I have a friend that knows him in Indonesia and as far as I know he is retired and well off and likes his privacy. He doesn't teach anyone now neither does his son. peace Santiago

Well I can only share with you my experience. I have been through a lot more than you think. But I guess if I was Swami S you would come pay me a visit instead of trying to make a discussion on something you have never experienced yet......the problem is I am a lot more honest than that. What you see is what you get and if you are untrained to see further you never get further. Unless ofcourse you empty your cup. You are just regurgitating what you are being fed. And that is ok. Like I said you are "high" off your teacher. And its good to be high off it and learn from it but you still need your "OWN" experience in truth and not intellectualize it or whatever. Also you miss a big picture here the paths are many not one. All lead to the same source if you dig or climb high enough. Be loyal to your teachers that is a good thing but you have more to go. Yes i see that. And also young...... Go spend time with people with Cancer, Aids, hospitals, go visit prisons, spend time with inner city kids....and then come tell me that you would rather be an "ESCAPE ARTIST" then a real enlightened being....You want to know God? God is in the places we least expect....... What you are being taught is "ESCAPEISM". Not me, not my path I have been there I have gone through it I had the choice to leave or stay I chose to stay regardless of the fact that this is "illusion" for the sake of others. If I have to incarnate as a Goat to help others I will. This bullshit of ESCAPING reality spiritual nonsense is for the immature and the irresponsible. You want spirituality? Get back to reality and be fully PRESENT. Yes we know its all illusion but as the Dalai Lama told me in person make it better for those who do not see it as illusion yet. A real enlightened being brings light and wisdom and compassion & healing to those who can not or will not see the truth. But its never forced.. I do not "URGE" anyone to do shit. They want it ? Great . They do not want it? No worries just like the Sun & the Universe give graciously regardless. My friend do your path. I hope Swami G is what you are looking for. yes i will answer it soon. Wait you just said Kali and Shiva do not exist? Live from your heart and pay attention to the Earth and the Divine....let them show you what illusions are. with love, Santiago Santiago

Non Dual can lead to Nihilsim in its extreme form. Hence the need to have Duality. Outs of the childs boredem with non duality, duality was created both coexist with each other with out one you can not have realization of the other. Shiva is the creator & destroyer. He did good for a brother with dreads sippin a 40 by the himalyas : ) AUM NAMA SHIVAYA

Do not mean to throw another wrench in your wheel but....... GOD IS THE ULTIMATE SHAMAN : ) We are but puppets. Shiva was the 1st Shaman. His "Shamanism" is what got him to realize "MAHASWARA" or MAHASHIVA, "BHAIRAVA". his Shamanism is where all YOGAS, Occult practices etc stem from so to use his name and not acknowledge energy work as a path towards enlightenment means you do not understand Shiva. Yes the Siddhis are side effects and tools of the divine and the ultimate goal is full realization of the whole.Even in Buddhism they took the old tantras took shiva's name out and replaced them with BUDDHA but guess what its still Shivaism.... In Bonpo this is the 1st "buddha" "Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche" The principles ae the same. I have stated before you want to be in this "plane" & reality you must learn to master it and be in it. Sounds to me as if you are "high" from your teacher right now and that is a good thing. Come talk to me in a few years. Have a family etc become part of society. KNow what I mean? What are you going to do now with this profound awareness that you have now ? Peace Santiago

>> Well you could do it that way : ) Just remember your "Earth" & keep the tongue on the roof of your mouth. peace Santiago